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Spoiler Why The "Link Created Termina With His Mind" Is NOT True!
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1. Why would Link make a realm where the Moon would fall and kill everyone in it?
Well, seeing as Link's life has been a constant battle against the forces of evil, who's to say none of the darkness ever entered him? This may sound a bit more fanfiction-esque, but perhaps Dark Link was made to not only fight Link, but posses him. Since Link defeated him, maybe it only partially worked?
2. Why would Link break up a lovely couple, in the most of tragic ways? (Anju and Kafei)
Link has had to deal with tragedy and separation for a while, and he would've only been used to friendship in Kokiri Forest. This may be his feelings of separation taking form.
3. Why would Link make a poor, innocent, Skull Kid into a monster?
I don't see Skull Kid as the monster. Skull Kid is and was the same till he put on Majora's Mask.
4. Why would Link create the Demon Mask, Majora's Mask?
Well, perhaps the Majora's Mask represents the darkness in Link's heart. This can be supported by the fact that though the Majora represents the sun, there is still some darkness inside it, just as a star becomes a black hole.
5. Why would Link turn himself into a Deku Scrub when he was getting tortured when he was?
This transformation probably represents the torture of the Kokiri and Deku after the Great Deku tree and the actual pain of the Deku tree itself.
6. Why would Link turn himself into a Goron?
This transformation probably represents Link's "brotherhood" with the Gorons. After all, he is their sworn brother.
7. Why would Link turn himself into a Zora?
This may be because he remembers his relationship to Ruto that, in a sense, they are engaged. The Zora Sapphire is a kind of engagement ring, and they would have been united as husband and wife, Zora and Man. But in Termina Link turned into a Zora, representing his remembrance of his commitment.
8. Why would Link separate two loving siblings? (Tatl and Tael)
See #2
9. Why would Link make his own horse be stolen? (Epona)
I really have no answer for this. Sorry.
10. Why would Link make lingering spirits, (Darmani) and a cursed father? (Pamela's Gibdo father)
See#1 and #2.
I personally don't believe that theory either,but I found this irresitable.
Well, seeing as Link's life has been a constant battle against the forces of evil, who's to say none of the darkness ever entered him? This may sound a bit more fanfiction-esque, but perhaps Dark Link was made to not only fight Link, but posses him. Since Link defeated him, maybe it only partially worked?
2. Why would Link break up a lovely couple, in the most of tragic ways? (Anju and Kafei)
Link has had to deal with tragedy and separation for a while, and he would've only been used to friendship in Kokiri Forest. This may be his feelings of separation taking form.
3. Why would Link make a poor, innocent, Skull Kid into a monster?
I don't see Skull Kid as the monster. Skull Kid is and was the same till he put on Majora's Mask.
4. Why would Link create the Demon Mask, Majora's Mask?
Well, perhaps the Majora's Mask represents the darkness in Link's heart. This can be supported by the fact that though the Majora represents the sun, there is still some darkness inside it, just as a star becomes a black hole.
5. Why would Link turn himself into a Deku Scrub when he was getting tortured when he was?
This transformation probably represents the torture of the Kokiri and Deku after the Great Deku tree and the actual pain of the Deku tree itself.
6. Why would Link turn himself into a Goron?
This transformation probably represents Link's "brotherhood" with the Gorons. After all, he is their sworn brother.
7. Why would Link turn himself into a Zora?
This may be because he remembers his relationship to Ruto that, in a sense, they are engaged. The Zora Sapphire is a kind of engagement ring, and they would have been united as husband and wife, Zora and Man. But in Termina Link turned into a Zora, representing his remembrance of his commitment.
8. Why would Link separate two loving siblings? (Tatl and Tael)
See #2
9. Why would Link make his own horse be stolen? (Epona)
I really have no answer for this. Sorry.
10. Why would Link make lingering spirits, (Darmani) and a cursed father? (Pamela's Gibdo father)
See#1 and #2.
I personally don't believe that theory either,but I found this irresitable.
Cfrock
Keep it strong
The majority of his life was spent living carefree in the woods with his friends. His adventure only covers, what, maybe a couple of weeks, game-time. It's hardly been 'a constant battle'. And if Link defeated Dark Link, how could Dark Link partially succeed in his purpose, supposing it was to possess him? Wouldn't a more likely possibility be that by defeating Dark Link, Link literally exorcised any darkness within himself?
Link's entire involvement with Anju & Kafei is tirelessly working to bring them back together. It makes more sense to see that as an act of union, not separation. If it was an act of separation, the side-quest would have involved breaking them up.
The Skull is described in-game as being a generally happy, playful chap. After the Giants left, he started acting mischievously and began tormenting people. Remember, the Skull Kid only gets Majora's Mask by mugging the Mask Salesman. There was a clear and defined change in his character prior to getting his hands on the Mask.
Majora's Mask represents the sun? How did you come to this conclusion? I'm genuinely interested. I don't see how something that supposedly represents the Sun could also represent darkness. Aside from the obvious difference, the sun is a life-giving energy, often associated with happiness, love and peace. Darkness is, well the exact opposite. How can two polarised notions be represented in a single object?
The Deku were tortured? They were the enemies that infested the Kokiri Forest after the Great Deku Tree died. They weren't suffering at all. Link spent most of his time with them stabbing them right in the face. Why would he mourn them? He certainly didn't seem reluctant to kill them.
Link made no such commitment. At no point does he seem to go along with Ruto's marriage plan. When she talks about it, Link looks quite scared and shocked and shows no enthusiasm to the idea whatsoever. He only wanted the Zora's Sapphire to get to the Triforce, it was only Princess Ruto whoever mentioned or seemed pleased with the proposal. Link barely even acknowledges her when he sees her as an adult either, so to suggest that relationship was deep enough for him to have it manifest in such a way seems highly unlikely.
As you directed us to your second point, so to do I direct you to my second point. Link's role in Termina is purely to heal and reconnect people. If separation and despair were his goals, he would not be trying to help reunite Tatl and Tael and he would not be trying to soothe the spirit of Darmani or heal Pamela's father.
If you don't believe it, why post speculative answers which try to support it? It gave me a confuse :S
Cfrock
Keep it strong
Actually, it clears things up a bit more since it helps the position against Termina being a figment of Link's imagination (since the attempt to rationalise it proved to be too weak).
And I shall read those articles, I think i may find them rather interesting indeed
Jirohnagi
Braava Braava
Feel i have to point out Majora representing the sun theory has been around since the game came out especially when people saw that Oni Link represented the moon. Most people in fact think Majora believes it is the good guy acting to help the people of termina by destroying them after all Oblivion is Bliss. Oni Link may be to majora the darkness and so when link dons the mask Majora sees it as a physical interpretation of the evil it thinks link is.
As it is, it has been stated by the Nintendo company that MM was a alternate reality.
As it is, it has been stated by the Nintendo company that MM was a alternate reality.
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Well, in Japan it was Oni Link. Since us americans interperet "Oni" as "evil", they changed it to Fierce Deity Link. Therefore, Link was never supposed to be evil.
Jirohnagi
Braava Braava
But as you have just said the JAPANESE. Who made it? besides maybe they wanted it to seem like theres an ulterior motive behind everything that or we are all crazy.
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BrotherofLink
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Based off of your earlier point you stated that, based off of Windwaker, Majora's Mask can't be a fantasy and another world, Link doesn't suffer through a weird world in Phantom hourglass. You just contradicted yourself, bud. Also, all the Links are not the same person despite the few sequels. All people have different mentalities. Link went through time warps, seven years passed and then back seven years, countless times. His mind would be wrought with unequilibrium after he had nothing more to do. Think about it on a personal level. Majora's Mask is a parallel dimension, yes. But, could also be twisted from Link's troubled mind as well as the Skull Kid's, with the help of the evil and sick Majora's Mask.
I also think that the game of Majora's Mask if about Link "linking" the world of and its people back together, Anju and Kafei, the four Giants, the happy mask salesman, and the skull kid. They are all in need of some form of help in accordance with emotion and psychological trauma (and drama lol!).
SO, in that sense, I do agree with you, Cfrock. haha
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Cfrock
Keep it strong
When I referred to the rules of one work of fiction not applying to another I was talking about how Alice in Wonderland has no bearing on The Legend of Zelda. Since Phantom Hourglass and The Wind Waker are part of the same series as Majora's Mask the same rules can apply across those titles. When I said work of fiction I was referring more to franchises than specific individual titles but I see that I wasn't very clear on that.
However, cucco002 did correctly point out the flaw in my logic by bringing up Link's Awakening, a dream that Link did physically enter, so the Zelda franchise does still have precedent for it within its own rules, so in that sense, yes I did contradict myself
The idea that OoT's Link was messed up in the head after his adventure is logical when only taken in the context of OoT but it doesn't fit with his actions that lead to Majora's Mask: seeking out the princess on his own initiative, securing a horse for a journey which may be long and arduous and seeking out his lost friend. These aren't the actions of a person with PTSD or some form of lunacy, at least not to me, so I just think that the actions Link is confirmed to have taken after OoT show that he did not suffer any major psychological issues as a result of his adventure.
I can see your point about how mentioning the other Links is a bit redundant and irrelevant though.
Yeah, Majora's Mask was just more about Link healing Termina than Termina healing him. If Majora's Mask was Link 'fixing' his warped mind, it makes more sense for Link to have developed as a character and have learnt a thing or two by the end of his adventure. This doesn't happen in Majora's Mask, he ends it more or less the same as he started it, having taught Termina and its people about friendship and togetherness and all that soppy stuff. That just doesn't fit with it being a self-healing exercise othe part of his brain in my eyes.
DarkestLink
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Real Reason It's Not True: Zelda fan theories are a load of over analyzed bull. Very very few of them are true and at least half of them are convoluted and ridiculous enough to make it into the National Enquirer.
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Um, excuse me, but do you know what theories are?! They're things that fans (or other people) make up to have fun! So what if they're wrong? Nothing bad happens. And what if they're right? The theory maker will be happy that their speculation was a success.
DarkestLink
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If they're made up for the sole purpose of being made up, then why do people debate them?
But yeah, maybe I lashed out too much. I just really don't like some of the over analyzed theories...they feel ridiculous to me and it kinda ruins the simple appeal Nintendo games have. Zelda is a simple series and that alone debunks most of the theories fans make.
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I see a broken link