Spoiler Why Must There Be a Split Time-line?

[jamezrockz98]

How Come There is a Spilt Timeline?

i am getting confused and i really need to ask. how come there is a spilt timeline. after oot is mm but after mm, couldn't it just be tp, ww then ph and so on. so i just wanted to know. i can't really see how the ending of oot makes a spilt timeline.

 

[Satsy]

Aside from Anouma confirming the split timeline, the introduction to Wind Waker also leads on from OoT and the Hero of Time. This would not be the case if it came after TP.

The split, as has been covered a couple times already, concerns the use of time travel in OoT. By the end of the game, there are two timelines: One where Ganon nearly won, then got sealed (adult timeline), and the timeline Link returns to, before the whole shindig took place (child timeline). From this timeline Link changes the future, by warning of Ganondorf's treachery, which means from that point, OoT didn't even take place. Instead young Link goes off to find his lost friend, and Twilight Princess comes some generations later.

Some theorize that there are even more splits than that, due to the frequency of time travel and paradoxes formed as a result (song of storms). However the split described above is, by this point, pretty much set in stone.

If you have further questions on the topic, as I said its been touched on before in this forum, no doubt your answers may even be on this first page of the topic list~~

 

[Seth]

I doubt their intention was a split timeline at first, but they probably saw it as a good opportunity in create future titles that it could fit in different timelines thus increasing story possibilities.

 

[Locke]

Please use the search function before asking common questions like this. There have been several discussions on the split timeline, and I have merged your thread with the most recent one. You should find many answers in here.

To answer your question, Link returning to his childhood at the end of OoT sets off a completely different chain of events, as seen in TP's backstory. Also, TP and WW are incompatible, since both have the ToP sealed away since OoT, Ganondorf dies in both, the flood, etc.

 

[TheGermanLegend]

Oh, I forgot something that contradicts (and basically disproves) A Link to the Past taking place in-between Ocarina of Time and A Link to the Past. When Ganon escaped from the bondage that had held him for so long, "...the people belived that the Hero of Time would once again come to save them. ...But the Hero did not return." Hold on...there was no Hero that came to save them. Well, that's when the gods flooded Hyrule. With that, there's no possible way it could have taken place before The Wind Waker. It's just not logical. At all.

And, the "split timeline" was basically around when The Wind Waker was released, as it was a direct sequal to the time Link left behind. We'd already had a direct sequal to the time Link came back to: Majora's Mask. Maybe not "confirmed," but definately what it was supposed to be.

I think you wanted to say "in-between OoT and WW"XP

It is possible. Think about the ending of ALttP; Link makes a wish to the Triforce we don't hear and everythink is like it was before ALttP. Links Uncle lives again, the Flute Boy isn't a tree anymore and so on. What if the wissh was "Please make it so that Ganon never creat Agahnim!" or somethink similar to this? It would change the story and nobody would remember ALttP, because it never happend. Than Ganon would break the seal in another way many years after the time ALttP would have taken place. There would be no hero and the flood would happen.

 

[JuicieJ]

I think you wanted to say "in-between OoT and WW"XP

It is possible. Think about the ending of ALttP; Link makes a wish to the Triforce we don't hear and everythink is like it was before ALttP. Links Uncle lives again, the Flute Boy isn't a tree anymore and so on. What if the wissh was "Please make it so that Ganon never creat Agahnim!" or somethink similar to this? It would change the story and nobody would remember ALttP, because it never happend. Than Ganon would break the seal in another way many years after the time ALttP would have taken place. There would be no hero and the flood would happen.

:O Wow, what a bonehead mistake I made... XD

Well, actually it is kind of impossible. See, it has to do with Ganon escaping and coming to once again conquer Hyrule, as I mentioned before. Yes, Link wished for everything that Ganon made happen not happen, but how would that put Ganon in a position where he has the Triforce of Power all of a sudden? I'm pretty sure it wouldn't. Now you can say it split, but then it wouldn't have granted Link's wish, now would it? And, again, the Link in The Wind Waker had no connection to the Hero of Time, which the Link in A Link to the Past would have, as he'd have been a descendant. There's just no way A Link to the Past can come before The Wind Waker.

Oh, by the way. Your "timeline" says "LoL" instead of "LoZ."

 

[TheGermanLegend]

:O Wow, what a bonehead mistake I made... XD

Well, actually it is kind of impossible. See, it has to do with Ganon escaping and coming to once again conquer Hyrule, as I mentioned before. Yes, Link wished for everything that Ganon made happen not happen, but how would that put Ganon in a position where he has the Triforce of Power all of a sudden? I'm pretty sure it wouldn't. Now you can say it split, but then it wouldn't have granted Link's wish, now would it? And, again, the Link in The Wind Waker had no connection to the Hero of Time, which the Link in A Link to the Past would have, as he'd have been a descendant. There's just no way A Link to the Past can come before The Wind Waker.

Oh, by the way. Your "timeline" says "LoL" instead of "LoZ."

Well, Ganon attacked Hyrule in the Backstory of WW. ALttP-Links Heart was balanced in ALttP so the ToX granted his wish. But it was still in the Dark Realm with Ganon. He touched it some times later an it splitted. And by the way...I can't remember anythink that suggsts that the Triforce can't grant a wish to a person with a unbalanced heart.

ALttP-Link only needs to be a descedant of a Knigth of Hyrule, not of the one who seald Hyrule.

Yeah, thank you. I corrected itXD

 

[JuicieJ]

Well, Ganon attacked Hyrule in the Backstory of WW. ALttP-Links Heart was balanced in ALttP so the ToX granted his wish. But it was still in the Dark Realm with Ganon. He touched it some times later an it splitted. And by the way...I can't remember anythink that suggsts that the Triforce can't grant a wish to a person with a unbalanced heart.

ALttP-Link only needs to be a descedant of a Knigth of Hyrule, not of the one who seald Hyrule.

Yeah, thank you. I corrected itXD

Um...the Triforce splits when someone with an unbalanced heart touches it, which it therefore doesn't grant the wish of the one who touched it. The example is Ganondorf in Ocarina of Time. How could you forget something like that? (Which actually wasn't written yet in A Link to the Past.) And, whatever you're saying about Ganon touching the Triforce again and it splitting, stop. You're basing your ideas off of information that's not there. It's just simple speculation that you're bringing up. Ganon broke out of the seal he was put in at the end of Ocarina of Time in the backstory to The Wind Waker, that's fact. I don't see why you would think there could be any other explanation than that. The Dark World has nothing to do with The Wind Waker. Otherwise it would have said so.

 

[TheGermanLegend]

Um...the Triforce splits when someone with an unbalanced heart touches it, which it therefore doesn't grant the wish of the one who touched it. The example is Ganondorf in Ocarina of Time. How could you forget something like that? (Which actually wasn't written yet in A Link to the Past.) And, whatever you're saying about Ganon touching the Triforce again and it splitting, stop. You're basing your ideas off of information that's not there. It's just simple speculation that you're bringing up. Ganon broke out of the seal he was put in at the end of Ocarina of Time in the backstory to The Wind Waker, that's fact. I don't see why you would think there could be any other explanation than that. The Dark World has nothing to do with The Wind Waker. Otherwise it would have said so.

Even if you don't place ALttP between OoT and WW Ganon was seald in the Dark world until the WW-Backstory(the SR transformed into it when Ganondorf touched the Triforce).

And well, we need to speculate if we want to place ALttP anywhere. There are basicly 3 diffrent placements for ALttP and they are all based on speculations:
1)Between OoT and WW; Speculation: Ganon is trapped in the DR together with the ToX and touches it(plausible)
2)After FSA; Speculation: The FS was put in the SR after FSA(unlikely, Ganon was a powerful Monster with a powerful Trident. Why would you seal him at a place where the Triforce, source of endless power, is??? In order to make him even more dangerous???)
3)Sometimes after TP or ST; Speculation: The Sealing War was never shown in a game and was an event very similar to OoT or FSA(possible, but that is really pur speculation with no evidence for it)

 

[JuicieJ]

Even if you don't place ALttP between OoT and WW Ganon was seald in the Dark world until the WW-Backstory(the SR transformed into it when Ganondorf touched the Triforce)

Actually, it didn't become the Dark World in Ocarina of Time. He wished for it to become the Dark World in A Link to the Past's backstory. How do I know this? The ending of OoT. The Sacred Realm is restored to a normal, peaceful realm after Ganondorf is sealed, evidenced by where Link and Zelda were before Link was sent back to his own time. Remember the scenery in that scene? Blue sky and clouds in all directions. They were in the Sacred Realm at the end, and that definately wasn't the Dark World. Besides, if it was the Dark World, how did Link and Rauru not transform when they were in the Chamber of Sages? If it was the Dark World, they would have. Simple as that. (This is another reason why I would like Nintendo to make a game in-between Twilight Princess and A Link to the Past. They could bring about the Triforce being re-assembled and Ganondorf touching it, wishing for the Sacred Realm to become the Dark World, in turn bringing about the Seal War.)

And well, we need to speculate if we want to place ALttP anywhere. There are basicly 3 diffrent placements for ALttP and they are all based on speculations:
1)Between OoT and WW; Speculation: Ganon is trapped in the DR together with the ToX and touches it(plausible)
2)After FSA; Speculation: The FS was put in the SR after FSA(unlikely, Ganon was a powerful Monster with a powerful Trident. Why would you seal him at a place where the Triforce, source of endless power, is??? In order to make him even more dangerous???)
3)Sometimes after TP or ST; Speculation: The Sealing War was never shown in a game and was an event very similar to OoT or FSA(possible, but that is really pur speculation with no evidence for it)

True enough, but we have a general area of placement due to where it was set when it was released. It was a prequel to The Legend of Zelda and became a sequel to Ocarina of Time when OoT was released. Twilight Princess has no mention of A Link to the Past in its backstory, so ALttP (logically) can't be before TP, so it (logically) has to come after Twilight Princess. This comes from information we have, not from speculation. And, as I've said before, the "split timeline" wasn't thought of when A Link to the Past came out, so it can't be set there. Not without connections from the stories on the "adult timeline," anyway. (Which there aren't any.) So, yeah. It's impossible for A Link to the Past to come in-between Ocarina of Time and The Wind Waker.