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What Rules Hatred

tysonrss

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Who here agrees the centerpiece of hatred comes from opinions and disagreements? Do you think there is a way to put an end to this or to compromise? Or is pain the only way humans can come to understand one another?
 

Beauts

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I think hatred has more reasons and sources than opinions and disagreements. On a worldly kind of level, hatred has it's base in power. That's all it ever comes to. Politics and power. It might manifest itself in the form of one group with differences from another group, but then those groups can also live peacefully. It depends on what either side wants- if they feel threatened by the differences or whatever, hatred arises because deep down, they feel that that group is threatening their power with their differences. It's never the differences within themselves. Well, that's my opinion anyway.
 

tysonrss

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One could say politics is derived from hatred since it seems that's what all ever stems from it.
 

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Politics does not breed hatred. It's power. Anything that can be used for power shall breed hatred. You see it in the political world. You see it in military. You see it in rape cases. Money. Games. Anything. Humans will fight for dominance, and that's hatred's beginnings. I do not believe we can outright stop hatred, because somehow there will be something that grants one some power ovr another, and the hate cycle will just continue.
 

tysonrss

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Politics does not breed hatred. It's power. Anything that can be used for power shall breed hatred. You see it in the political world. You see it in military. You see it in rape cases. Money. Games. Anything. Humans will fight for dominance, and that's hatred's beginnings. I do not believe we can outright stop hatred, because somehow there will be something that grants one some power ovr another, and the hate cycle will just continue.
But you see, politics are nothing but disagreements, one's self illusioned opinions, because of this disagreements are formed, and hatred is grown. People get angry when their opinion is outdone by another. Im not saying poilitcs is the center of hatred, but it seems disagreeing is. Someone asked if one has the right to harbor hate toward someone that raped their close ones. I guess this cannot be argued, in that case I guess hate is acceptable, however, the rapist usually has bred hatred inside, maybe his childhood was bad. That hatred enabled him to hurt someone else.

So then hatred is a never ending cycle.
 

Beauts

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But you see, politics are nothing but disagreements, one's self illusioned opinions, because of this disagreements are formed, and hatred is grown. People get angry when their opinion is outdone by another. Im not saying poilitcs is the center of hatred, but it seems disagreeing is. Someone asked if one has the right to harbor hate toward someone that raped their close ones. I guess this cannot be argued, in that case I guess hate is acceptable, however, the rapist usually has bred hatred inside, maybe his childhood was bad. That hatred enabled him to hurt someone else.

So then hatred is a never ending cycle.
I wouldn't say politics is just disagreements. Politics is defined as the way in which power should be distributed. Therefore, what me and Ventus say is in essence correct in definition. The disagreement comes afterwards, when someone else decides that a way of power distribution is wrong for some reason. Back in feudal times (when everywhere was ruled by king's and queens), there was never any real disagreement as to how power was distributed because it was taught that monarch's are given their powers by god, and nobody ever disputed the existence of god until the Enlightenment. But that doesn't mean there was no politics: there were disagreements within politics, for example the rights of landowners over people. But hey, that again comes own to power. Politics doesn't necessarily equal hatred, that's just how it's come to be demonstrated by the powers that be (see a pattern forming with the power thing?). I mean, at the end of the day the Cold War had nothing to do with communism versus republicanism. It was how many weapons and therefore power one nation had versus how many weapons and therefore power another nation had. But it was easier to keep the nation happy and in support (therefore keeping power within that country on a domestic level within both powers) by demonising the other side, so teaching the people to fear the differences and therefore develop hatred for the opposite side.

So, hatred appears to have it's basis in power. Anything added around it is surplus to the grassroots problem. Hatred is just a way of gaining or losing power.
 

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Ignorance breeds fear. Fear breeds hate. Hate breeds violence.


There are those who that simply believe that people who are different are no good. This opinion may be based on a solitary unpleasant encounter with someone of a different race or culture. From that, they make a quantum leap to the conclusion that everyone of that race or culture must share undesirable traits.
While bigotry is ugly enough on an individual scale, when it infects an entire nation or race, it can become lethal. The belief that one's nationality, skin color, culture, or language makes one superior to others can breed bigotry and xenophobia. During the 20th century, such bigotry was often expressed violently.
Interestingly, hatred and bigotry need not necessarily be about skin color or nationality. One third-grade teacher demonstrated this when, as part of a famous experiment, she divided her class into two groups - blue-eyed children and brown-eyed children. Within a short time, animosities developed between the two groups. Even alliances based on things as trivial as a preference for the same sports team can result in violent clashes.
 
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Ignorance breeds fear. Fear breeds hate. Hate breeds violence.


There are those who that simply believe that people who are different are no good. This opinion may be based on a solitary unpleasant encounter with someone of a different race or culture. From that, they make a quantum leap to the conclusion that everyone of that race or culture must share undesirable traits.
While bigotry is ugly enough on an individual scale, when it infects an entire nation or race, it can become lethal. The belief that one's nationality, skin color, culture, or language makes one superior to others can breed bigotry and xenophobia. During the 20th century, such bigotry was often expressed violently.
Interestingly, hatred and bigotry need not necessarily be about skin color or nationality. One third-grade teacher demonstrated this when, as part of a famous experiment, she divided her class into two groups - blue-eyed children and brown-eyed children. Within a short time, animosities developed between the two groups. Even alliances based on things as trivial as a preference for the same sports team can result in violent clashes.
That first line is something you'd here from a Jedi. But all joking aside, it's true.

If you keep thinking that everyone is inferior to yourself or your own race then a lot of hatred will come from that. You'll try to prove yourself better than them, belittle and embarrass them any chance you get, and even try to beat them senseless for whatever reason. Ultra nationalistic countries, such as Nazi Germany, was founded based off of this. They saw themselves as the master race and thought they were better than everyone else just because of their ignorance. They killed everyone off that they thought were inferior to them, basically everyone that wasn't German or was weak and mentally ill. White America is another example. Slavery was a long lasting issue primarily because white Americans thought they were better because of the color of their skin. Ignorance and prejudiced thoughts led them on hating African-Americans and enslaving them. Even after about 150 years slavery was ended, people still hate African-Americans, and the KKK still exists deep in the south. Not openly obviously, but they're still out there hating on African-Americans and other minority groups.

People mentioned politics. Politics isn't naturally fully of hate, it's the people that tend to run it that are ignorant idiots. Power on the other hand, that's something that brings forth that very ignorance. Power makes you think you're better than someone. Hitler had ultimate power, so what did he do? He used his power in politics to help kill off anyone that he thought that was inferior to him.
 

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