I've had too many (fifteen!) arguments in the past month that went like this:
Proponent: *advocates something with no clear clue of what it is*
Me: *knows what it is, knows it's a waste of time, opposes and points out more common beliefs that are problem*
Proponent and me: *insert endless hours of arguing and being jerks to each other*
Authority: "Let's end the arguing and rely on what academia has to say."
Academia: "Sorry, mate. We have no f^&*ing clue what it is. We're just as confused as everyone else."
Me: "Welp! Time to dismiss that topic, then."
Proponent: "Fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff-"