Pokéscum Mafia: The First Generation

[Shroom]

Vote: Fused

 

[Moonstone]

FoS: Fused: Do you have any final statements?

EBWODP: A different point of view and where I'm coming from, directed namely at Deku Shroom... I don't see why a mafia member would make such a folly as being on the lynch for not one but two townies, but one can never really know. I haven't played much with Fused since he always gets lynched off right away, so I can't tell from his play style whether he might be acting weirdly bold or not.

EBWOTP: Deku, I'd like to hear your reasoning.

 

[fused_shadows]

To be completely fair, I never wanted to lynch goomboo; I only voted for him because I had three more votes than him at the time. He was the second closest on the vote tally, thus he was the best chance for me to survive. Rep, on the other hand, actually voted for him because he wanted to lynch him. Huge difference there.

And with regards to Sadia, there was literally nothing else to go on. Nothing. At all. I did my best looking for anything to lynch based on, and what I said in regards to Sadia was the best option that I could come up with. No one else provided a single other option. Was I supposed to just let the Day end with absolutely no productivity at all? I voted for Sadia because she was my main suspect. I seemed to be the only one trying to scumhunt. Why would I, as scum, take such a bold hold on the game's proceeding, basically putting my neck out there? I wouldn't. What am I is a Townie trying to help the Town. I've done 10x more scumhunting than everyone else.

I really don't like going after inactive players while we have two active players who have both been on two lynches that have killed townies.

The basic point that you're trying to make here is very scum-like. Why would you want to keep the inactive players who aren't doing anything at all over the active players who are trying to scumhunt and find scum? Are you scarred they'll try and lynch your scumbuds?

FoS: Stitch

 

[Moonstone]

To be completely fair, I never wanted to lynch goomboo; I only voted for him because I had three more votes than him at the time. He was the second closest on the vote tally, thus he was the best chance for me to survive. Rep, on the other hand, actually voted for him because he wanted to lynch him. Huge difference there.

And with regards to Sadia, there was literally nothing else to go on. Nothing. At all. I did my best looking for anything to lynch based on, and what I said in regards to Sadia was the best option that I could come up with. No one else provided a single other option. Was I supposed to just let the Day end with absolutely no productivity at all? I voted for Sadia because she was my main suspect. I seemed to be the only one trying to scumhunt. Why would I, as scum, take such a bold hold on the game's proceeding, basically putting my neck out there? I wouldn't. What am I is a Townie trying to help the Town. I've done 10x more scumhunting than everyone else.



The basic point that you're trying to make here is very scum-like. Why would you want to keep the inactive players who aren't doing anything at all over the active players who are trying to scumhunt and find scum? Are you scarred they'll try and lynch your scumbuds?

FoS: Stitch

I find the latter point of your statement very valid. The inactives are not helping the town at all. However, with the numbers the cult and mafia have, it's possible they're confident in taking control of the flow of the game. So, on one hand, voting off the inactives might hit us a mafia or cult player, but on the other hand, it might lose an actually busy town player when we already have lost so many, and once we reach the minority, I don't think there's much chance left for us. Unless we have some masons or others who already know the other's roles, we can't confirm with anyone, unlike the other factions.

I have to say, I too, have some suspicions of Stitch. He's clearly been reading the night scenes, if he can remember that Red was targeted tonight, but to ignore Hitmonchan and Rep's softclaim is kind of weird.

 

[Stitch]

I have to say, I too, have some suspicions of Stitch. He's clearly been reading the night scenes, if he can remember that Red was targeted tonight, but to ignore Hitmonchan and Rep's softclaim is kind of weird.

Except I didn't ignore it. I just mistook him claiming vig on accident, since he was talking about the vig and whatever during the claim (school started this week for me, so I was half asleep when I was reading the posts)

I'm gonna have to say fused is who I am most suspicious of at this point. Rep has soft-claimed town vig (which I don't fully trust, especially when so many people are inactive, but I guess it makes him somewhat less likely to be town) and he and fused were the only two on both lynches. I think our best bet at this point is going after fused.

Vote: fused_shadows

 

[Moonstone]

Except I didn't ignore it. I just mistook him claiming vig on accident, since he was talking about the vig and whatever during the claim (school started this week for me, so I was half asleep when I was reading the posts)

I reiterate;

EBWODP: A different point of view and where I'm coming from, directed namely at Deku Shroom... I don't see why a mafia member would make such a folly as being on the lynch for not one but two townies, but one can never really know. I haven't played much with Fused since he always gets lynched off right away, so I can't tell from his play style whether he might be acting weirdly bold or not.


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Still, after realizing, you continue to press for the possible Repentance lynch here...

I think that we should lynch either fused or Rep. They were both on the previous two lynches and both have been brought up as suspicious multiple times for different reasons. I really don't like going after inactive players while we have two active players who have both been on two lynches that have killed townies. I don't think we have to worry about the mafia killing town tonight since they probably now know who the cult leader is and want to get him/her out of the way. If the cult leader dies he probably won't be able to recruit tonight. So if we lynch we will most likely only risk losing two townies at most tonight. That's basically the normal risk in any mafia game when it comes to lynching, so I think it would be worth it.

Why still continue to bring Rep into the picture? Nothing has shown him to be the currently part of the cult- I mean, he might have been in the cult to start, but I doubt it, since the cult leader is probably Red. And he almost definitely isn't mafia, since the OP itself says that Mewtwo has mind controlled the three legendary birds. Sure, maybe he's one of these groups, but it's very unlikely. So I just don't see why you would say it's between Fused and Rep at this point with so much in favor of him being town. Again, if someone wants to counter claim and end his farce entirely, please do so now. You'll probably die tonight, but you can be sure we'll get something to work on tomorrow when Rep is either killed by the Vig or lynched in your defense.

 

[Shroom]

EBWODP: A different point of view and where I'm coming from, directed namely at Deku Shroom... I don't see why a mafia member would make such a folly as being on the lynch for not one but two townies, but one can never really know. I haven't played much with Fused since he always gets lynched off right away, so I can't tell from his play style whether he might be acting weirdly bold or not.

I'm sorry, but I have to ask what is being directed at me?

EBWODP, whoops screwed up my quotes, but that was for Lady of the Leaves.

 

[Moonstone]

I'm sorry, but I have to ask what is being directed at me?

Asking for your reasoning on why you voted for Fused_Shadows, since you were the most recent voter and breaker of the tie.


EBWODP: Mellow or Music, can we get a vote count please? I think I added up right but I'd like a mod or co-mod confirmation.

I'm sorry, but I have to ask what is being directed at me?

EBWODP, whoops screwed up my quotes, but that was for Lady of the Leaves.

EBWOTP:I knew =p

 

[Shroom]

Oh, gotcha. I basically just don't have any other suspicions as strong as I do with Fused. I made a post a while ago in the thread, it might have been before you joined, as to why I found Fused suspicious, and if you'll look, I don't think I've actually voted for anyone other than Fused.

I do find Stitch's suspicions of Rep, well... suspicious, but I don't find it suspicious enough to act upon yet. Rep has made a case for himself, and my only other suspicions would really fall upon the inactives (which would be like shooting in the dark because there's barely anything to work upon there, and I apologize for my absence, but I can only really be active and do some real digging Friday-Sunday), and Justa. Out of the whole bunch, Fused still just seems most likely to be scum to me.

 

[Stitch]

Why still continue to bring Rep into the picture? Nothing has shown him to be the currently part of the cult- I mean, he might have been in the cult to start, but I doubt it, since the cult leader is probably Red. And he almost definitely isn't mafia, since the OP itself says that Mewtwo has mind controlled the three legendary birds. Sure, maybe he's one of these groups, but it's very unlikely. So I just don't see why you would say it's between Fused and Rep at this point with so much in favor of him being town. Again, if someone wants to counter claim and end his farce entirely, please do so now. You'll probably die tonight, but you can be sure we'll get something to work on tomorrow when Rep is either killed by the Vig or lynched in your defense.

Because there is a small chance his claim could be fake, with so much inactivity it's not out of the question that somebody wouldn't counter claim. Either because they aren't around or because they are afraid their inactivity would make us doubt them and lynch them. I only left Rep in there as a possibility because I think that lynching someone is better than lynching no one and he was one of the two people who were on both lynches, and I didn't know if other people were going to accept his claim or doubt his claim.

I think what we have to realize is that all the inactives and the fact that this is role madness makes this a rather different game. What I'm most worried about is mafia taking control of the day and with so many inactives it wouldn't be that difficult. I'm just not comfortable with how two people who were already on lynches for two townies have taken as much control of it as they have. We often have brought up how the mafia could be hiding in the inactives, but what if they are doing the opposite? I'm not saying that going after inactives is a horrible idea, just that we shouldn't take too much trust in those who are active.

 

[Sheik]

Hmm, for some reason I was thinking the game ended tomorrow instead of today. So I'm really just posting this so that I can for sure stay playing, but I'll try to get in a post with actual substance within the next few hours.

 

[Shroom]

We often have brought up how the mafia could be hiding in the inactives, but what if they are doing the opposite? I'm not saying that going after inactives is a horrible idea, just that we shouldn't take too much trust in those who are active.

This has been on my mind as well. Definitely agree with Stitch on this point.

 

[Moonstone]

Because there is a small chance his claim could be fake, with so much inactivity it's not out of the question that somebody wouldn't counter claim. Either because they aren't around or because they are afraid their inactivity would make us doubt them and lynch them. I only left Rep in there as a possibility because I think that lynching someone is better than lynching no one and he was one of the two people who were on both lynches, and I didn't know if other people were going to accept his claim or doubt his claim.

I think what we have to realize is that all the inactives and the fact that this is role madness makes this a rather different game. What I'm most worried about is mafia taking control of the day and with so many inactives it wouldn't be that difficult. I'm just not comfortable with how two people who were already on lynches for two townies have taken as much control of it as they have. We often have brought up how the mafia could be hiding in the inactives, but what if they are doing the opposite? I'm not saying that going after inactives is a horrible idea, just that we shouldn't take too much trust in those who are active.

This is not a bad point. Still... I'm not entirely sold on the Fused lynch, simply because he has been active- so at least we can go through his posts and find some discrepancies, while with the inactives we can find few to none at all- because there are no posts and therefore no evidence to use against them.

EBWODP:

Hmm, for some reason I was thinking the game ended tomorrow instead of today. So I'm really just posting this so that I can for sure stay playing, but I'll try to get in a post with actual substance within the next few hours.

Please do. Everything and anything is important, so I'd like to get your opinion, even if you have to post it in haste.

 

[Jamie]

I'm not sure why you think I'm stupid enough to fake claim a confirmed role that could easily be counter claimed. That's kind of ridiculous.

 

[Moonstone]

Rep would you tell us who you're most suspicious of? I don't think I've seen you do so.