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Pirates Mafia 2: Dead Man's Chest/At World's End

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Mellow Ezlo

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I think I'm gonna refrain from using my final shot until I see a really good opportunity because, unfortunately, I seem to have been roleblocked this night.

I won't jump the gun and say that automatically means there was at least one scum on board the Bocto wagon, but it might be worth it to be weary of them.

Anyway, I'll be back later. Just signed on to see my result.
 

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I'll have to rethink some things as, well, you guys know I was suspicious of Fused and Draco. However I was willing to let them prove their alignment. The thing that perplexes me now is the night scene...

I don't get how Bo killed Fused(?) And I guess Mafia just can't make a kill. Seriously I'm doubting that Mafia have a NK ability... (not really ;p). Maybe we're just getting extremely lucky.

However, if what Mido is saying is true then it's out best lead.

Vote: Kokiron
 
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Fused, you fought an honorable battle, we'll do our best!

So Sadia brought up a great theory in my eyes, I was going to say the exact same thing. I'm willing to wager that Kokirion is one of them, I'm positive.
In addition to what Sadia said, I have something else to offer:

Since it's apparent that I'm the 'second' cop, I also investigated Mezlo the same night and got an innocent result. The issue I have with Kokirion's investigation is that from what I read, he said that Mezlo was an alarmist, yet Mezlo claims Sensor? I'm confused. I have more thoughts, but I think that Koki would be the best bet.
Vote: Kokirion

I have more to say about some other things, but for now I must be off!

The pieces actually fall together quite nicely for this theory. I do wonder why the mafia wouldn't kill the cop last night though, as it seemed like a perfect opportunity. Sadia's theory was probably spot-on though, so they might have just wanted to avoid being too obvious by killing you last night.

I think a vote on Kokirion would be a good choice. Should we attempt to utilize Mellow's role again for the bandwagon? Assuming it doesn't get messed up again...
 

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To be honest I seriously doubt we'll be able to use Mellow's role effectively. I tried my best on the day prior and it was ruined near the end; however it was blocked anyway.

I think we should also take into consideration what Alit did. No kill again? This just seems like one too many coincidences now. No Mafia kills, no Vig kills... Maybe we're completely overlooking something here.

I also think Thar is worth a look into, as is Robby.
 
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I think we should also take into consideration what Alit did. No kill again? This just seems like one too many coincidences now. No Mafia kills, no Vig kills... Maybe we're completely overlooking something here.

I've been thinking the same thing, actually. Let's consider this for a second; it makes sense that a Vigilante would be continually roleblocked by the mafia, if they have a roleblocker (it's an incredibly common power role on both sides). When ALIT claimed he targeted me, that's when I was fairly certain this was the case, as the doctor had no reason to protect me when other much more powerful roles had been claimed. It made sense that I survived just due to the roleblock, and I figured the same was true with Thareous and the like.

But now that Mellow claims he's been roleblocked.... What's the excuse this time? The Dreaming God? Again? I can attribute that maybe one or two times, but this many? I'm starting to think that our Doctor is good enough at predicting to stump the mafia kills, but the lack of Vig kills is getting more and more unsettling to me. Do you have another reason, Link in Time?

I also think Thar is worth a look into, as is Robby.

I think Green was more surprising out of the two. Thareous seemed like he just missed the deadline by not logging on soon enough, but Green just kind of went kamikaze at the last second.
 

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I agree that Robby should be looked into. I mean, what was his wording again? "Looks like we're lynching Big Octo" or something like that? It sounds like he just joined the bandwagon for no reason whatsoever. And with the plan involved, I can't help but think it was likely intentional.

Although, if the mafia has a roleblocker and intended to block Mellow this whole time... He wouldn't really have needed to sabotage it at the last minute.

And of course... the lack of kills is extremely odd. It's kind of making me suspicious of both Mellow and ALIT. After all, the mafia couldn't have blocked both of them. (Well... unless they have TWO roleblockers. Maybe there's an abundance of roleblockers in this game or something.)

Regarding Mido... How is it "apparent" that you're a second cop, Mido? Did you claim before you were silenced? I don't even remember.

I'm getting very lost in this game with all the claims. It's hard to tell who's who. My philosophy has always been to avoid lynching claimed players, but I'm seriously doubting that's a good idea here. I swear like half of the people in the game have claimed by now. XD
 

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I think this is what we have gathered so far:

Confirmed Players
Draco
Mido (Mido was immobilised which is typically a Mafia related role)

Claimed Players
Alit (Vig)
Mellow (Sensor)
Music Fan (Tracker/watcher)
Koki (Cop)
Thareous (Doctor Variation?)

So that's two confirmed and 5 who have claimed. We have no way of proving anything now as there are certain trust issues in this game. I'd like to hear what Koki has to say to be honest.
 

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Hi. I'm the replacement for Linkdude.

Maybe ALiT can only kill every other night? Nonconsecutively? Maybe there are other nonconsecutive roles at work? Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm trying to read through and understand all the claims (JC's post is very helpful).

It's possible that Mellow was roleblocked so that we would look at BO's bandwagon and think there was scum on there. Maybe the mafia is trying to frame Robby or Thareous.

Maybe the mafia hit a bulletproof and/or one-shot bulletproof.
 

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Ok it's obvious that something isn't right. You amd Mellow can't both be role blocked continuously and I highly the doctor has interveneintervened on more than on occasion too.

I'm nkt going to propose that one of you is deceiving us just yet; however, Alit, I would like to know who you targeted this past night.
 

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So Bocto... Just came back to life, killed fused somehow, then died again? Do you think that there are still some cult members out there with some special ability where they can do whatever the hell just happened in the night scene?
 

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As I said earlier, I didn't really pay attention. And, again, sorry.

Also, if I were Mafia, why would I also have the roleblocker block Mezlo? All it would do is double up, and would be a waste of mafia ability.

It's wasn't fruitless, though. I've noticed some of the ways you guys have responded, and it's giving me ideas on what may or may not be happening. I won't share them just yet, but I know that if I do and they turn up wrong, it would seal my already suspicious fate.
 

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The winds were blowing intensely this night. It was blowing hard with great power causing huge waves to appear on the ocean.

I'm beginning to wonder if the weather is affecting the roles. If so, it would definitely be an interesting mechanic. After all, this is a Pirates game, and the majority of the movies are spent at sea. Several storms and such have been featured in them as well. I'm not saying this is truly the case, but it would be interesting if Pendio planned all this out; like, each night has a different type of weather, and that determines what happens throughout the night. I dunno, just a thought.

About halfway into the night the people working on getting Mido out of the cage finally managed to get him out. After that Mido, and his saviours, were able to go on home.

I'm still curious as to who may have immobilized Mido. It's not an ability I've ever seen in these games, and the wiki has nothing about an immobilizer type role. It could be an ability that Pendio made up to fit one particular character, but I'm having trouble determining who that character may be.

Suddenly a light appeared on the horizon. Apparently there was a small boat with a lantern drifting in towards the Town of Shipwreck on the great waves of the storm. In the boat sat Tai Huang (more commonly known as Big Octo). He had returned from the land of the dead! When the boat reached land, Tai Huang stepped ashore and went immediately to the location where he knew he would be able to find fused_shadows. He silently walked up to fused_shadows from behind and quickly without any warning stuck his sword right through fused_shadows’ back. He then whispered softly:

“Revenge… This is my revenge!”

What baffles me most about the night scene is how exactly fused died. It doesn't seem like a Mafia kill, because it was directly stated that Big Octo was the one to have killed fused.

IIRC, the only people to have returned from the dead in the Pirates films were Barbossa and Jack. Barbossa was brought back to life by the work of Tia Dalma, and, technically, so was Jack. I am inclined to believe that Tia Dalma did something to bring Bocto back to make the kill. Unfortunately, the problem with this is the evident lack of any other kills. So it's possible that the Mafia manipulated Bocto into making the kill? I dunno, it's not too much of a stretch given everything else that's happened in this game.

fused_shadows fell to the cold ground and one could see a wooden eyeball rolling from the corpse. Thereafter Tai Huang returned to his little boat and swiftly disappeared into Davy Jones’ Locker.

By this quote, it is evident that Big Octo did physically return from Davy Jones' Locker. This confused me even more. Was he rescued by the crew of the Black Pearl? Was he manipulated by the mafia? Did Tia Dalma do something to him? Did he have a one shot killing role post-death? So many unanswered questions!



I am finding it harder and harder to believe ALiT's claim as the game progresses. It could be a coincidence that all of his kills have failed, but it seems highly unlikely, especially given the fact that my role failed last night. I was initially inclined to believe his claim, but I'm starting to feel rather iffy about it. I think we should refrain from lynching him though, and give him one more night to prove his innocence. If his kill fails a fifth time, then we should lynch him next day.
So for now:

FoS: A Link in Time

Now, Sadia and Mido have brought up some excellent points about Kokirion. I won't go into too much detail here as they already explained it so well, but I think a Kokirion lynch is the best course of activity today, unless anybody else has any better ideas.

Vote: Kokirion
 

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JC said:
Alit, I would like to know who you targeted this past night.

I targeted Vergo again and he did not die again...

And the pattern of one kill every other night continues leading me to believe there are two blocking roles, each of which can be used non consecutively, one more global than the other.


Mezlo said:
I am finding it harder and harder to believe ALiT's claim as the game progresses. It could be a coincidence that all of his kills have failed, but it seems highly unlikely, especially given the fact that my role failed last night. I was initially inclined to believe his claim, but I'm starting to feel rather iffy about it. I think we should refrain from lynching him though, and give him one more night to prove his innocence. If his kill fails a fifth time, then we should lynch him next day.
So for now:

FoS: A Link in Time

Well, I guess if I do fail to kill for a fifth time, a lynch would at least give you information; however, my claim is truthful.
 
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