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Jamie

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That's neither here nor there. There are other mediums in which you can complain about those offenses. If you want Kitsu to be punished or demoted or whatever, make a thread about it. This isn't the place. To my knowledge kitsu has never made a line-crossing sexual comment before ever, or even anything remotely close to that.

The verbal warning I gave DM before was entirely justified. All it was was a verbal warning for making a rude comment at a member.
 

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That's neither here nor there. There are other mediums in which you can complain about those offenses. If you want Kitsu to be punished or demoted or whatever, make a thread about it. This isn't the place. To my knowledge kitsu has never made a line-crossing sexual comment before ever, or even anything remotely close to that.
Except no one ever responds on those other channels they ignore everything. You've personally been ignoring me for a week. But none of you hesitate to share everything I said with everyone else with no regard to privacy. It is relevant to this case because Kitsu issued this warning and he's been shown to hold a grudge against DM. I showed that he manipulated the SB log he showed everyone else to make it look worse than it is. I showed how you, and everyone else, ignored that it was a family guy reference. Pop culture references should be okay. Looking for more into it is just going to look like a vendetta. And it wasn't just a warning, he was shoutbox banned.

The verbal warning I gave DM before was entirely justified. All it was was a verbal warning for making a rude comment at a member.
You already know I completely disagree with that. Which is only further on my point. If these unfair infractions and warnings are not removed, it'll not only make it more likely other mods will punish more severely, but it'll make others that don't like that person use it against them more. And it still looks horrible how Kitsu has been doing way worse and nothing is done about that. Other members have been bad too. Some of our forum mods quite a few people couldn't stop mocking me today in the shoutbox. Constantly ridiculing this discussion, and the one that was going on in feminism, regardless of the actual content or what was going on. Didn't see anything done about that. I can't talk in a controversial topic without someone ridiculing it severely. Like the constant droning on about how the "White Pride" thread was the "most hilarious thread ever. Completely misconstruing what was was actually going on in there.
 
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I'm not sure what you're referring to. The instance I'm referring to is when DM said something like "have any of you ever in your life looked up "some" in a dictionary" followed by some other uncalled for comments. Am I never supposed to step in and say hey, that's sort of rude?

Are you referring to the "because you touch yourself at night" Family Guy quote? Because I don't think the two are related.

We've regularly responded to complaint threads so I'm not sure what you are talking about there.
 

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I'm not sure what you're referring to. The instance I'm referring to is when DM said something like "have any of you ever in your life looked up "some" in a dictionary" followed by some other uncalled for comments. Am I never supposed to step in and say hey, that's sort of rude?
I'd say so yes. Both you and Kitsu have shown yourselves to be incapable of being unbiased when it comes to DM. You look for the tiniest things and say it warrants action, when it is always taken out out context, ignoring that other people were doing the exact same thing, playing along, and yet only DM is ever singled out. You've made it very clear you too have a grudge against him given how unbending you are when you've clearly misconstrue what actually happens. Both of you should leave it to other moderators. And probably not Seth or Batman because they also hold a grudge against DM. This is WHY you need a lot of staff members to filter out biases and make sure personal grudges stay out of it. You have a grudge against him too. Your insistence that misrepresented trivialities are so bad, while ignoring everyone else, proves you do.

Are you referring to the "because you touch yourself at night" Family Guy quote? Because I don't think the two are related.
Just because you desperately want to punish DM at any cost doesn't mean it wasn't a reference. It is what it was, you're not in his head, you don't get to make that call.

We've regularly responded to complaint threads so I'm not sure what you are talking about there.
Saying "no, we were justified in singling just this person out" hardly is responding. It's justifying. And you didn't even originally even read our counter arguments.
 

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That's neither here nor there.
It is relevant if you expect others to listen.

There are other mediums in which you can complain about those offenses. If you want Kitsu to be punished or demoted or whatever, make a thread about it.
Wouldn't that just get deleted or trolled?

To my knowledge kitsu has never made a line-crossing sexual comment before ever, or even anything remotely close to that.
He posted pornographic fan fiction of Pancake. Please, can it get much more sexual? If I remember correctly I was the only person complaining about it.

The verbal warning I gave DM before was entirely justified. All it was was a verbal warning for making a rude comment at a member.
And I assume the countless rude sarcastic comments I receive simply don't matter. I do not have trust in this forum's ability to manage itself based on the evidence in this thread and the thread I created.

I personally believe you cannot in all sincerity expect those to listen to your rules if you cannot yourself.
 

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Just because you desperately want to punish DM at any cost doesn't mean it wasn't a reference. It is what it was, you're not in his head, you don't get to make that call.
If my two cents matter at all (considering the comment in question was directed at me) I never thought of it as a reference to that until you brought it up in this thread. And it did make me a little uncomfortable.
 

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I do think DMs comment that I /verbally/ warned about was rude. If he wants to deny it, that's up to him, but I think he'd agree.

I have no desire to punish DM, not sure where that's coming from considering I've never punished him to my knowledge.

Finally, according to you, Matt, I'm too biased to moderate anything dealing with DM as are @Kitsu, @Batman and @Seth, so I guess none of us should respond to these concerns anymore. Good luck with your issues, then.
 

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If my two cents matter at all (considering the comment in question was directed at me) I never thought of it as a reference to that until you brought it up in this thread. And it did make me a little uncomfortable.
Yeah, my intention certainly wasn't to make you feel uncomfortable. On a properly managed forum where admins don't post porn I would not make these jokes. Apologies though anyway.
 

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Finally, according to you, Matt, I'm too biased to moderate anything dealing with DM as are @Kitsu, @Batman and @Seth, so I guess none of us should respond to these concerns anymore. Good luck with your issues, then.
Kitsu is the bad one. The other two are just too biased against DM. They're fine in other areas. Other than this, Seth and Batman have been doing a fantastic job and I've been pleased with their work otherwise. Rep you're not that bad, just really off on this.
Kitsu is the one that harasses everyone who so much as looks at him wrong, assigns his goon squad to attack them with him , insults threads in the SB he disagrees with all time, post porn, mock people's dead siblings, ridicule people's depression, and put people on discourage without permission. I think there's a pretty solid case he is not a responsible or trustworthy admin.

EDIT (sorry for the mixup)
 

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It sure as **** is gratifying to see that literally every concern and grievance with the staff that I had that led me to resign - a tendency for unilateral action, cronyism, acting on personal vendettas - has been completely justified and true. It might be easy to dismiss complaints against the existing staff because so many of them reach right for "corruption" which is admittedly a bit laughably strong and dire, but cronyism is a very real problem with the current staff and I said so at the time and I think the string of resignations that both preceded and followed my own has been pretty indicative of some endemic issues with the current site staff.

Basically: you guys suck and it's really fun to watch people call you out.
 

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Basically: you guys suck and it's really fun to watch people call you out.

so I guess none of us should respond to these concerns anymore. Good luck with your issues, then.
In all seriousness, that really doesn't help your case, at all. Staff behavior has become the major issue of this site. As site staff members, you take on a role of responsibility, a role that regular users do don't have. This role is to ensure the satisfaction of the regular users. You do this by setting guidelines, moderating, keeping the site up and running, etc. all to ensure the satisfaction of a regular member. When those regular members don't feel satisfied with a staff member, and this claim is backed by more than one, then that's a big problem. I think everyone knows that Kitsu is unfit to lead a forum, or moderate, or whatever. My suggestion is to simply make a thread, with a poll, and see what the site thinks.
 

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How to deal with corrupt mods in 3 simple steps! A comprehensive guide. :)

Hello friends! Are those silly willy mods bothering you? Don't you hate when they do their jobs? As a respectable North American citizen, I sure know it wouldn't be swell if a mod handed me an zero point infraction for simply expressing my freedom of speech here on good ol' Zelda Dungeon! We simply don't abide that here! Seems fascist, don't you think? And we know how Mases feels about fascism! Here's how to cope:

1) Tell those freedom-obstructing mods how you feel! Even if they provide examples to show why your infraction is justified, keep bickering for pages upon end until nothing is resolved! Those corrupt, evil mods, can't possibly have their own opinion for valid reasons and past experiences! It doesn't matter if the points are actually worth anything, what matters is your honor on a Zelda forum in the pits of the grand old internet, right? Maybe if you go on about it for long enough, somebody will actually care!

If Step 1 doesn't do ya any diddly darn good, move on to step two!

2) Realize that this is a forum about a video game and that this thread is redundant, this is a colossal waste of time, and that death is inevitable in this void of a universe, so really, just about everything's pointless! It's at this point that you can forgive those crazy corrupt mods and properly embrace apathetic bliss, because they are literally faceless people on the internet! In the mean time, why not try out another Zelda forum where fascism doesn't run rampant? That's what I, a proper housewife, will do! Once you've fully embraced your apathy about something that is meaningless- both in the existential sense and in the sense that it's not worth any points, move on to step 3!

3) Are you unable to let go of your obsessions with this forum and the staff? Can't contain your righteous fury? Are those mods just so annoying you don't know how to handle it anymore? Log out. If you're feeling super duper daring, go outside and see what the world has to offer outside of a backwater Zelda forum with awful mods! This seems to be the hardest step for many, but once you succeed at step 2, you should have no trouble at all! I realize this may sound crazy, but nobody is forcing you to post here! What a wild thought, huh? Can you imagine logging out and forgetting about all the silliness here?

Ha ha ha! Me neither.

This has been a PSA.
 
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