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Official Suggestions Thread

Killjoy

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Here's my two cents on Alts. I personally agree that the rule disallowing alts should stay, but on the flip side, what happens when someone comes back after, I dunno, 5 years? And they no longer have access to their original Email, because it got deleted for some awful reason? I remember one site I was a member of, "The Dessert Collossus" where the Email I signed up with was deleted because someone hacked into mu account and send crude emails which in turn got warnings that, being a dumb kid that didn't know what they were, got deleted.

A few years ago, a similar incident happened with a MMO(Massivly Multiplayer Online) game, Guild Wars and Guild Wars 2. I lost access you the game, the devs set both games up where they both used the same email AND password. I forgot the pass and backed away, and eventually deleted the email associated with the game, and later asked the support team if I could have a new email added as mu log in email, which I used to set up a new password.

I personally understand where in dire cases one would need to at least make an alternate account just to gain access to the still active "older" account. Other than that, I don't think keeping said alt would be good.
 

Jimmu

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I'll start by saying that I think people should be able to make suggestions here as they see fit. I think it is better to give the benefit of the doubt here that suggestions are in good faith. If enough people disagree with a suggestion (as is obvious in this case) then it will be discounted - so it is better to do this with less need for abrasion. The official suggestions thread shouldn't be the place to name drop people or vent out personal issues.

As for the suggestion itself:

Anyone who has been forum staff on this website at some point or another and those that have been around to observe certain situations play out would understand why the no alts policy is important and justified. I've seen many cases where alts have been used to deceive people and cause harm in the past.

I generally don't think people (especially those who are known already well amongst the community) should be able to resurface as a new personality without the knowledge of most of the forum base. There is no way for me or the forum staff to know all of what goes on behind the scenes between members here. So if someone signs up as an alternate account to "start afresh" there is no way for us to confirm what ulterior motives may or may not be behind this request. Our job is to do the best we can to protect our members here under our watch and while I don't think we have always done the perfect job, I think this rule needs to be a part of that task's strategy. Obviously there are ways for people to get around detection on this, but we shouldn't just give up on banning murder because some people can get away with it.

Based on the fact that the vast majority of people here seem to agree that a rule of open alts just isn't compatible with the forum culture here that is enough for me to see that the rule should stay as it is.

In situations like those mentioned by @Killjoy we are happy for members to either use the contact form to let us know, or if they sign up with a new account they can approach us via private message and we can discuss what to do. This has happened a few times in the past, and obviously where we are approached right away and told that they are signing up under this new account because an old password was lost there would be no need for any kind of punishment (we would just merge the accounts together where we can verify for sure that the new user actually was the owner of the old account or discuss alternative options if that is not possible). We are quite reasonable with these things.

I don't see any issue with alternative accounts set up by the staff for reasons like the Mafia ones are. Those are set with such limited permissions that they can only access the mafia section and we know who has access to them. If there was a need for an account for a roleplay (which would be similarly restricted to the roleplay forum only) I could be open to discussing this on a case by case basis - but I'd rather not create a large amount of alternative accounts for the one person so the details would need to be negotiated. Also as others have mentioned too I am always approachable to hear other cases out fairly when people feel as they have some legitimate reason to want a different account.
 

Mellow Ezlo

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To be completely honest I think Jimmu's post closed the discussion quite sufficiently and there wasn't a necessity for any further responses to the topic, thus this thread should have been left alone after he had said his piece.
 

Ninja

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Hi all,

First and foremost, thank you everyone for your patience, and passion regarding the recent posts in this thread. After deliberation, we have removed a considerable amount of the posts that was back-and-forth arguing, and kept some of the posts around that had solid viewpoints and discussion.

Mez was pretty spot on with his above post, Jimmy had some good points in his post above, please refer to that if you have any questions. Going forward please keep the thread civil, and continue to use the report feature. I appreciate that we have this open forum to discuss things we are passionate about, while still being mature enough to have a good dialogue. Happy Sunday!
 

Giri

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The social groups are collecting dust tbh, there could be a lot of discussion some subgrops, especially anime, ZD book club. Why not make it appear on the SB when something is posted? appoint active users in place of inactive users?
 

Jimmu

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The social groups are collecting dust tbh, there could be a lot of discussion some subgrops, especially anime, ZD book club. Why not make it appear on the SB when something is posted? appoint active users in place of inactive users?
Perhaps having some of the social group posts appearing in the SB wouldn't be too bad though I imagine not everyone would be on board with this. It could be quite subjective as to which ones should get notifications and which shouldn't.

Can clicking on "The Latest Blog Posts" actually take you to the latest blog posts instead of the "What's New" section?
I agree that it would be good to change this and I'd like to. I had a brief look into it and it seems to be a bit complicated as essentially the widget is a duplication of the widget above for latest posts. It easily allows you to restrict the forums the posts show from (such as setting it to blog posts only) but doesn't allow you to change the link the heading sends you to. There is probably a way to do it if I look deeper but that'll need to be when I have the chance to do so. I'll keep this on the list for when I am able to get time to do this.
 

Storm

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Umm yes

Just a little thing bugging me, but can we opt out of the censor filter? Sometimes i want to ****ing see my **** without a goddamn asterick over the mother****ing post and it gets so ******************************* annoying
 

Azure Sage

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Umm yes

Just a little thing bugging me, but can we opt out of the censor filter? Sometimes i want to ****ing see my **** without a goddamn asterick over the mother****ing post and it gets so ******************************* annoying
That used to be a thing but I don't think it works anymore after the switch to Xenforo. @Jimmu can confirm if that's still available or not. I think we've had this come up before and the answer was no its not an option with Xenforo but I'm not sure.
 

Storm

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I think i .ight have been the one who asked too. Most of my posts need excessive swearing and im tired of my notifs being like " someone reported you because you cant say fucx
 

Cfrock

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I think i .ight have been the one who asked too. Most of my posts need excessive swearing and im tired of my notifs being like " someone reported you because you cant say fucx
I can tell you that trying to bypass the filter like this is also against the rules, and you're going to get reported just as much if you keep doing that, too.

If it's this much of an issue for you, maybe try not swearing so much.
 

Jimmu

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Yeah basically it isn't an option in the software at this point. I don't see it as a necessity or priority and disagree with the assertion that anyone's posts "need" a lot of swearing.
 

VikzeLink

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Hey, I've got a little suggestion for the forums. It's just a minor thing, but I noticed that when you go the the "Members" page there are different sections you can click on to see various different types of members. For example: "Staff Members", "ZD Legends", "ZD Champions" and "Most Messages" etc. At the bottom of that list you'll find "Registered Members". Here is where the problem is...
The "Registered Members" list is 165 pages long... Because other than all the regular members here, it also contains all of the "I made an account and used it for a week" accounts and bot accounts and things like that. It's a complete mess.

My suggestion is that it should be divided into 2 different categories: "Active Registered Members" and "Unactive Registered Members". I'd say that not logging in for a year would put you into the "Unactive" list, but as soon as you log in you'll be put back into the "Active" one. Is that something that would be possible?
I know, I know, not the most important thing ever, but just a little improvement suggestion ^^
 

Giri

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Perhaps having some of the social group posts appearing in the SB wouldn't be too bad though I imagine not everyone would be on board with this. It could be quite subjective as to which ones should get notifications and which shouldn't.
That's a good idea. We should start a poll on that
 

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