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MapelSerup

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Sorry, that was worded badly. Honestly, I don’t know very much about Mafia, besides the rules and such. From what I have seen, Mafia and Roleplay often require you to post often. If you’re just doing these, you’re not discussing, you’re just playing a game that requires many posts. The flairs are meant to reward going out of your way to discuss on the site, and if you earn them for just doing what you’re expected to do in the context of the game, not actually making meaningful posts on many threads in the forum, then they lose their meaning. I don’t mean to say that Mafia and Roleplay aren’t good to have.
 

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The champion/legend system is in place to reward activity, but its also not an important system. It's literally cosmetic in value and comes with no benefits whatsoever. It's that way on purpose so that no one is missing out on not being one, to contrast with the Hylian Knight system of old. If you want it, cool, work for it, but you're not missing anything by not having it. That's why it's not necessary for games to count. I'm definitely open to examining certain threads like Things on Your Mind, but I'm not aware of how doable it is to exclude certain threads from postcount with Xenforo. That's a question for @Jimmu. I will not deny that there's quality content in mafia games and role-playing but that doesn't change the fact that they're games. They aren't discussion. That's why there's a line.
 

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It's actually pretty simple. Roleplay and games are not discussion and hence are not counted. This is making an issue out of a non-issue.


I don't know what definition of discussion you're using but under these definitions i would consider roleplays and mafia games discussion.
 

Stitch

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New idea: if it's so hard to count posts, maybe just get rid of ZD Legend and Champion entirely and save the admins and mods time and energy.
 

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The reward system isn't automated either.

Jimmu has to go through an entire months worth of activity on the site and manually count member post activity.

It'd be insane to add hundreds of mafia pages on top of that for him.
you can just click on the thread and get a summary of everyone who posted in it and how many times they posted, if anything it'd be easier for the mafia section because there's only 2-3 active threads a month, unlike in other forums.

does responding to people's posts with shrugging emojis count as discussion?


New idea: if it's so hard to count posts, maybe just get rid of ZD Legend and Champion entirely and save the admins and mods time and energy.
if the mods are happy doing it and the people like the system then there's no real reason to get rid of it
 

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I think the elephant in the room that everyone's graciously trying to tip-toe around for the most part is that for some reason many of the non-Mafia players here hold some kind of dislike for the Mafia sub-forum. There's been issues regarding this in the past and while it's been pretty calm lately it's almost like there's a cold war because nothing was ever really resolved. Maybe it's worth talking about it openly. I know that no one in the Mafia community on these forums hold any ill will towards the rest of the people here. I think all we really want is to be viewed in a more positive light by everyone else. Minish brought up a very solid point that I think you should all consider. I honestly think this is a pretty serious matter. The Mafia section has brought plenty of new users to this forum, some of which have become very active even outside of the Mafia section, and I think even more might feel encouraged to explore the forums as a whole if the Mafia section was given more respect than it has today. We really have to make an effort to bring the community together in a better way.

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You're not helping at all.
 

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Beowolf, if you're somehow trying to say that the mafia section and the other forum parts can't coexist you're just hating on it for literally no reason.
If anything this site should be proud of the mafia community it has. Players from all across the internet, some considered the best among the best, come here to play often or just meet the community as a whole due to you being well represented in the annual world championships and crossover events.

And, honestly, if the mafia section does a better job at interacting with other communities and attracting new people to check this place out then it kinda tells a lot about the rest of the site if anything.

I'm not sure which distorted sense of community some of you have, but I feel like this place is really not the welcoming and willing place you imagine; and I also feel like most of new people have a really hard time kinda just getting along here no matter the reason they join. It's usually really arbitrary who gets to be treated well and who doesn't and I feel like it's borderline toxic.
A recent example of this was some people from Marioboards trying to check this place out and kinda being shoved aside until most of them decided to leave.
 

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Everyone calm down! Please.

This is what I think. Firstly, I just want to say that I love every single one of you. I don’t care if you just play mafia, I don’t care if you aren’t a champion or a legend, I just love you all. <3

That out of the way, I want to emphasize that this is a Zelda Forum first. This place was created to talk about Zelda and spark discussions about it. But I think it’s so much more than that. It’s a place where you can come to relax and have a good time. It’s a place where you can meet new wonderful people and become great friends with them. We’re a family here. We care about each other and help each other as best as we can.

I want everyone here to feel welcome and loved. I don’t want mafia players to feel discriminated or unwanted. Everyone here has such wonderful unique personalities and quirks. Everyone here has something special about them that’s amazing.

I would love if I could see more of the mafia players around the site so I could get to know them better. If you feel like you’re alone or unwanted here, you’re not. I want you here. I want to befriend you. I want to comfort you wen you’re sad, and be happy with you when something amazing happens!

If anyone on this site thinks themselves better than someone else one here, stop. Just stop. You’re hurting them. You’re making them feel unwanted, and that’s not nice. Everyone has something to contribute on here. Whether it be very good Zelda theories, or just alway getting people to smile with their wonderful personality, or just being a friend when you feel alone, everyone here matters. I hope you all think that too.

Now, most threads like ‘What on your Mind?’ or ‘What Annoyed you Today,’ or even Zelda Threads have some not meaningful posts. So do Mafia threads, they have some meaningless posts too. That would count out most of the active threads on here form being toward post count. So how does that work? Why does posting a link to a video get you a post count? How does posting vote: someone count towards post count? The post count thing is just messed up in so many ways. There’d no right answer to this problem with this current post count mess.

I would say just wait until Jimmu, the actual person who does all the work to orginize this Legend/Champion stuff, comes here and has his say on it. He’s the one to who actually sits down and has to go through thousands of posts. Instead of arguing, why don’t you all just take a moment to appreciate that.

Thank you @Jimmu
 

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great post echo, i agree with everything you said

thanks jimmu
 

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