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OoT-N64 Ocarina of Time, Temple Order

The Jade Fist

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So, I'm curious who else out there does like me and does the Spirit Temple before they do the Shadow Temple when they play Ocarina of Time.

Or if you normally do temples in a different order then normal

Normal being:

(Kid Dungeons)
Forest
Fire
(Ice)
Water
(Bottom of Well any time after forest but before this point)
Shadow
Spirit
 
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Ventus

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I typically do Great Deku Tree > Ganon's Castle :right:

But honestly, my most recent runs have only been Forest, Fire, Water, Shadow, Spirit. The run I'm currently on is normal order, but the fact that I *can* do out of order runs is absolutely amazing. <3
 

The Jade Fist

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I never considered it out of order, its the order you get the medallions on the pause menu. Also that you can get to the spirit temple as soon as you get the long shot (or hover boots), but I get the long shot first and all, and the whole Gerudo/Desert area is my favorite area of the game, so why not go there as soon as i'm capable.

But when ever I see peoples guides / walk throughs they are always doing Shadow Temple before Spirit Temple.

So thats why i'm curious of how many do it the way I do, and also curious if any one has some really random temple orders they like to do.
 

Ventus

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There is this one order that I did:

Fire, Forest, Water, Spirit, Shadow

And that confused the heck out of me because I lost my place in the Forest Temple, aha. It's intriguing, all that you can do as far as methods go. x)
 

The Jade Fist

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There is this one order that I did:

Fire, Forest, Water, Spirit, Shadow

And that confused the heck out of me because I lost my place in the Forest Temple, aha. It's intriguing, all that you can do as far as methods go. x)
If by methods you mean glitches, Those kind of ways thru a game never really appealed to me, I like doing with the intended game play mechanics.

But I guess if you just grab a dungeon item and leave, you can complete them in literally any order that way.
 
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There's actually a lot of freedom when it comes to dungeon order, even if you always complete a dungeon once you start it (so no going to a dungeon and getting the item and then going to another dungeon) and don't abuse glitches. The forest, fire and water temples can be beaten in any order, but without the bow I think you miss either the dungeon map or the compass in the fire temple and you have to be incredibly careful with keys in the water dungeon and make some fun jumps. The spirit temple requires the longshot and the ability to go back in time, so you have to beat the water and forest temples beforehand. Although it looks like you need the hover boots, the haunted wasteland chasm can be crossed with the longshot. The shadow temple cutscene will not start until you've beaten the forest, fire and water temples.

This means you can do some incredibly out-of-order runs like Water - Forest - Spirit - Fire - Shadow. I'm gonna do that for my next runthrough of this game, it looks pretty exciting.
 
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MW7

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Ohio
I do the game out of order all the time- the freedom is practically half the reason I play Ocarina of Time so much. My favorite path through the adult portion of the game is: hookshot, Ice Cavern, first half of Water Temple up to longshot (don't need bow for first 4 keys), Gerudo Fortress, Haunted Wasteland without lens of truth so I can get the Requiem of Spirit, Forest Temple, Spirit Temple, finish the Water Temple, Fire Temple, Shadow Temple, Bottom of the Well, Ganon's Castle.

I made a thread a long time ago just about the different orders that are possible without glitches-http://zeldadungeon.net/forum/f9/dungeon-orders-27937.html

Basically the rules are that you have to complete the Forest Temple before you can go back in time so you can't do the Spirit Temple until Forest is done (but as in my example you can get the Requiem of Spirit before entering the Forest Temple) and you'll have to get the longshot from the Water Temple (except in the non-3ds versions you can just walk backward at the end of the sand so you don't need anything); Forest, Fire, and Water all must be complete before you get the Nocturne of Shadow; and for the mini-dungeons the ice cavern requires nothing but a bottle so you can do it anytime before the Water Temple (there are relatively simple glitches that let you skip the iron boots though) and the bottom of the well doesn't have to be completed because the lens of truth is optional (but normally you'd do it anytime after the Forest Temple but before Shadow).

Here's the absolute craziest thing I've found though. In the non-3ds versions of the game it is possible to get the Requiem of Spirit before even getting the hookshot. It's not easy but possible to do the Gerudo Fortress without the hookshot, then you can backwalk across the river of sand, and then you go through the safe path through the haunted wasteland without the ghost guide.

There's actually a lot of freedom when it comes to dungeon order, even if you always complete a dungeon once you start it (so no going to a dungeon and getting the item and then going to another dungeon) and don't abuse glitches. The forest, fire and water temples can be beaten in any order, but without the bow I think you miss either the dungeon map or the compass in the fire temple and you have to be incredibly careful with keys in the water dungeon and make some fun jumps. The spirit temple requires the longshot and the ability to go back in time, so you have to beat the water and forest temples beforehand. Although it looks like you need the hover boots, the haunted wasteland chasm can be crossed with the longshot. The shadow temple cutscene will not start until you've beaten the forest, fire and water temples.

This means you can do some incredibly out-of-order runs like Water - Forest - Spirit - Fire - Shadow. I'm gonna do that for my next runthrough of this game, it looks pretty exciting.
Welcome to ZeldaDungeon! Great first post- very few people seem to fully understand the freedom in the game. I'm especially impressed that you know how to beat the Water Temple without the bow, and I was really upset when they changed it in OOT 3ds so that you'd have to really glitch around to do it. They "fixed" the ledge to the top water switch so now you can't jump to it so unfortunately you end up one key short of finishing the dungeon unless you find a way to glitch up there. One thing I'd like to add is that you can actually climb over the fence to the dungeon map in the Fire Temple so you don't have to miss it.
 
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Heroine of Time

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....Is it weird that I had no idea you could do Spirit before Shadow? I knew about Water before Fire, I never even considered that before, haha. I guess it makes sense. I never bothered because I figured that after I get the Lens of Truth at the Bottom of the Well, you go to the Shadow Temple, but I guess that's all you need to get through to the Desert Colossus... (Unless you're awesome and have memorized the way, as I've heard some people do.)

I usually do it in the normal order. Nothing special about me. XD
 

PhantomTriforce

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....Is it weird that I had no idea you could do Spirit before Shadow? I knew about Water before Fire, I never even considered that before, haha. I guess it makes sense. I never bothered because I figured that after I get the Lens of Truth at the Bottom of the Well, you go to the Shadow Temple, but I guess that's all you need to get through to the Desert Colossus... (Unless you're awesome and have memorized the way, as I've heard some people do.)

I usually do it in the normal order. Nothing special about me. XD

I think the Spirit before Shadow is more popular than Water before Fire.

And about the normal order you speak of, that's where some confusion begins. Because while playing the game, it seems natural to do the order Forest, Fire, Water, Shadow, and Spirit, because that's how the events of the games pushes a first time player to do the temples. But at the same time, on the start screen, the Spirit Medallion is shown before the Shadow Medallion, which causes some people to question the order.

But I've always done it Forest, Fire, Water, Shadow, Spirit, because you can't get far in the Fire and Water Temples without the Bow, so I do the Forest Temple first for convenience.
 
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Well, thank you very much.

I had a look over your thread, and it was pretty interesting - I had never considered the amount of orders if you just nab the item or if you add sub-dungeons. However, it seemed you were missing some orders. So, to put the matter to rest, I've quickly written a little program to loop through every single possibility.

Here are all the dungeon orders if you beat dungeons when you start them:
Forest Fire Water Spirit Shadow
Forest Fire Water Shadow Spirit
Forest Water Fire Spirit Shadow
Forest Water Fire Shadow Spirit
Forest Water Spirit Fire Shadow
Fire Forest Water Spirit Shadow
Fire Forest Water Shadow Spirit
Fire Water Forest Spirit Shadow
Fire Water Forest Shadow Spirit
Water Forest Fire Spirit Shadow
Water Forest Fire Shadow Spirit
Water Forest Spirit Fire Shadow
Water Fire Forest Spirit Shadow
Water Fire Forest Shadow Spirit
That's 14 orders in all.

Here is that list with sub-dungeons if you're not crazy enough to beat Shadow and Spirit without LoT:
Forest Fire Ice BotW Water Spirit Shadow
Forest Fire Ice BotW Water Shadow Spirit
Forest Fire Ice Water BotW Spirit Shadow
Forest Fire Ice Water BotW Shadow Spirit
Forest Fire BotW Ice Water Spirit Shadow
Forest Fire BotW Ice Water Shadow Spirit
Forest Ice Fire BotW Water Spirit Shadow
Forest Ice Fire BotW Water Shadow Spirit
Forest Ice Fire Water BotW Spirit Shadow
Forest Ice Fire Water BotW Shadow Spirit
Forest Ice BotW Fire Water Spirit Shadow
Forest Ice BotW Fire Water Shadow Spirit
Forest Ice BotW Water Fire Spirit Shadow
Forest Ice BotW Water Fire Shadow Spirit
Forest Ice BotW Water Spirit Fire Shadow
Forest Ice Water Fire BotW Spirit Shadow
Forest Ice Water Fire BotW Shadow Spirit
Forest Ice Water BotW Fire Spirit Shadow
Forest Ice Water BotW Fire Shadow Spirit
Forest Ice Water BotW Spirit Fire Shadow
Forest BotW Fire Ice Water Spirit Shadow
Forest BotW Fire Ice Water Shadow Spirit
Forest BotW Ice Fire Water Spirit Shadow
Forest BotW Ice Fire Water Shadow Spirit
Forest BotW Ice Water Fire Spirit Shadow
Forest BotW Ice Water Fire Shadow Spirit
Forest BotW Ice Water Spirit Fire Shadow
Fire Forest Ice BotW Water Spirit Shadow
Fire Forest Ice BotW Water Shadow Spirit
Fire Forest Ice Water BotW Spirit Shadow
Fire Forest Ice Water BotW Shadow Spirit
Fire Forest BotW Ice Water Spirit Shadow
Fire Forest BotW Ice Water Shadow Spirit
Fire Ice Forest Water BotW Spirit Shadow
Fire Ice Forest Water BotW Shadow Spirit
Fire Ice Forest BotW Water Spirit Shadow
Fire Ice Forest BotW Water Shadow Spirit
Fire Ice Water Forest BotW Spirit Shadow
Fire Ice Water Forest BotW Shadow Spirit
Ice Forest Fire Water BotW Spirit Shadow
Ice Forest Fire Water BotW Shadow Spirit
Ice Forest Fire BotW Water Spirit Shadow
Ice Forest Fire BotW Water Shadow Spirit
Ice Forest Water Fire BotW Spirit Shadow
Ice Forest Water Fire BotW Shadow Spirit
Ice Forest Water BotW Fire Spirit Shadow
Ice Forest Water BotW Fire Shadow Spirit
Ice Forest Water BotW Spirit Fire Shadow
Ice Forest BotW Fire Water Spirit Shadow
Ice Forest BotW Fire Water Shadow Spirit
Ice Forest BotW Water Fire Spirit Shadow
Ice Forest BotW Water Fire Shadow Spirit
Ice Forest BotW Water Spirit Fire Shadow
Ice Fire Forest Water BotW Spirit Shadow
Ice Fire Forest Water BotW Shadow Spirit
Ice Fire Forest BotW Water Spirit Shadow
Ice Fire Forest BotW Water Shadow Spirit
Ice Fire Water Forest BotW Spirit Shadow
Ice Fire Water Forest BotW Shadow Spirit
Ice Water Forest Fire BotW Spirit Shadow
Ice Water Forest Fire BotW Shadow Spirit
Ice Water Forest BotW Fire Spirit Shadow
Ice Water Forest BotW Fire Shadow Spirit
Ice Water Forest BotW Spirit Fire Shadow
Ice Water Fire Forest BotW Spirit Shadow
Ice Water Fire Forest BotW Shadow Spirit
That's a fairly large 66.

Next, this list is if you're crazy enough to beat Spirit and Shadow without LoT:
Forest Fire Ice BotW Water Spirit Shadow
Forest Fire Ice BotW Water Shadow Spirit
Forest Fire Ice Water BotW Spirit Shadow
Forest Fire Ice Water BotW Shadow Spirit
Forest Fire Ice Water Spirit BotW Shadow
Forest Fire Ice Water Spirit Shadow BotW
Forest Fire Ice Water Shadow BotW Spirit
Forest Fire Ice Water Shadow Spirit BotW
Forest Fire BotW Ice Water Spirit Shadow
Forest Fire BotW Ice Water Shadow Spirit
Forest Ice Fire BotW Water Spirit Shadow
Forest Ice Fire BotW Water Shadow Spirit
Forest Ice Fire Water BotW Spirit Shadow
Forest Ice Fire Water BotW Shadow Spirit
Forest Ice Fire Water Spirit BotW Shadow
Forest Ice Fire Water Spirit Shadow BotW
Forest Ice Fire Water Shadow BotW Spirit
Forest Ice Fire Water Shadow Spirit BotW
Forest Ice BotW Fire Water Spirit Shadow
Forest Ice BotW Fire Water Shadow Spirit
Forest Ice BotW Water Fire Spirit Shadow
Forest Ice BotW Water Fire Shadow Spirit
Forest Ice BotW Water Spirit Fire Shadow
Forest Ice Water Fire BotW Spirit Shadow
Forest Ice Water Fire BotW Shadow Spirit
Forest Ice Water Fire Spirit BotW Shadow
Forest Ice Water Fire Spirit Shadow BotW
Forest Ice Water Fire Shadow BotW Spirit
Forest Ice Water Fire Shadow Spirit BotW
Forest Ice Water BotW Fire Spirit Shadow
Forest Ice Water BotW Fire Shadow Spirit
Forest Ice Water BotW Spirit Fire Shadow
Forest Ice Water Spirit Fire BotW Shadow
Forest Ice Water Spirit Fire Shadow BotW
Forest Ice Water Spirit BotW Fire Shadow
Forest BotW Fire Ice Water Spirit Shadow
Forest BotW Fire Ice Water Shadow Spirit
Forest BotW Ice Fire Water Spirit Shadow
Forest BotW Ice Fire Water Shadow Spirit
Forest BotW Ice Water Fire Spirit Shadow
Forest BotW Ice Water Fire Shadow Spirit
Forest BotW Ice Water Spirit Fire Shadow
Fire Forest Ice BotW Water Spirit Shadow
Fire Forest Ice BotW Water Shadow Spirit
Fire Forest Ice Water BotW Spirit Shadow
Fire Forest Ice Water BotW Shadow Spirit
Fire Forest Ice Water Spirit BotW Shadow
Fire Forest Ice Water Spirit Shadow BotW
Fire Forest Ice Water Shadow BotW Spirit
Fire Forest Ice Water Shadow Spirit BotW
Fire Forest BotW Ice Water Spirit Shadow
Fire Forest BotW Ice Water Shadow Spirit
Fire Ice Forest Water BotW Spirit Shadow
Fire Ice Forest Water BotW Shadow Spirit
Fire Ice Forest Water Spirit BotW Shadow
Fire Ice Forest Water Spirit Shadow BotW
Fire Ice Forest Water Shadow BotW Spirit
Fire Ice Forest Water Shadow Spirit BotW
Fire Ice Forest BotW Water Spirit Shadow
Fire Ice Forest BotW Water Shadow Spirit
Fire Ice Water Forest BotW Spirit Shadow
Fire Ice Water Forest BotW Shadow Spirit
Fire Ice Water Forest Spirit BotW Shadow
Fire Ice Water Forest Spirit Shadow BotW
Fire Ice Water Forest Shadow BotW Spirit
Fire Ice Water Forest Shadow Spirit BotW
Ice Forest Fire Water BotW Spirit Shadow
Ice Forest Fire Water BotW Shadow Spirit
Ice Forest Fire Water Spirit BotW Shadow
Ice Forest Fire Water Spirit Shadow BotW
Ice Forest Fire Water Shadow BotW Spirit
Ice Forest Fire Water Shadow Spirit BotW
Ice Forest Fire BotW Water Spirit Shadow
Ice Forest Fire BotW Water Shadow Spirit
Ice Forest Water Fire BotW Spirit Shadow
Ice Forest Water Fire BotW Shadow Spirit
Ice Forest Water Fire Spirit BotW Shadow
Ice Forest Water Fire Spirit Shadow BotW
Ice Forest Water Fire Shadow BotW Spirit
Ice Forest Water Fire Shadow Spirit BotW
Ice Forest Water BotW Fire Spirit Shadow
Ice Forest Water BotW Fire Shadow Spirit
Ice Forest Water BotW Spirit Fire Shadow
Ice Forest Water Spirit Fire BotW Shadow
Ice Forest Water Spirit Fire Shadow BotW
Ice Forest Water Spirit BotW Fire Shadow
Ice Forest BotW Fire Water Spirit Shadow
Ice Forest BotW Fire Water Shadow Spirit
Ice Forest BotW Water Fire Spirit Shadow
Ice Forest BotW Water Fire Shadow Spirit
Ice Forest BotW Water Spirit Fire Shadow
Ice Fire Forest Water BotW Spirit Shadow
Ice Fire Forest Water BotW Shadow Spirit
Ice Fire Forest Water Spirit BotW Shadow
Ice Fire Forest Water Spirit Shadow BotW
Ice Fire Forest Water Shadow BotW Spirit
Ice Fire Forest Water Shadow Spirit BotW
Ice Fire Forest BotW Water Spirit Shadow
Ice Fire Forest BotW Water Shadow Spirit
Ice Fire Water Forest BotW Spirit Shadow
Ice Fire Water Forest BotW Shadow Spirit
Ice Fire Water Forest Spirit BotW Shadow
Ice Fire Water Forest Spirit Shadow BotW
Ice Fire Water Forest Shadow BotW Spirit
Ice Fire Water Forest Shadow Spirit BotW
Ice Water Forest Fire BotW Spirit Shadow
Ice Water Forest Fire BotW Shadow Spirit
Ice Water Forest Fire Spirit BotW Shadow
Ice Water Forest Fire Spirit Shadow BotW
Ice Water Forest Fire Shadow BotW Spirit
Ice Water Forest Fire Shadow Spirit BotW
Ice Water Forest BotW Fire Spirit Shadow
Ice Water Forest BotW Fire Shadow Spirit
Ice Water Forest BotW Spirit Fire Shadow
Ice Water Forest Spirit Fire BotW Shadow
Ice Water Forest Spirit Fire Shadow BotW
Ice Water Forest Spirit BotW Fire Shadow
Ice Water Fire Forest BotW Spirit Shadow
Ice Water Fire Forest BotW Shadow Spirit
Ice Water Fire Forest Spirit BotW Shadow
Ice Water Fire Forest Spirit Shadow BotW
Ice Water Fire Forest Shadow BotW Spirit
Ice Water Fire Forest Shadow Spirit BotW
That's 123. And that's not even considering runs where you just ignore BotW - I think that would add another 27 runs to the list.

Now, for a different approach: here's the same three lists, but you can just grab the item and leave. This only really changes Spirit's requirements from Forest and Water to Forest, though.

Dungeons:
Forest Fire Water Spirit Shadow
Forest Fire Water Shadow Spirit
Forest Fire Spirit Water Shadow
Forest Water Fire Spirit Shadow
Forest Water Fire Shadow Spirit
Forest Water Spirit Fire Shadow
Forest Spirit Fire Water Shadow
Forest Spirit Water Fire Shadow
Fire Forest Water Spirit Shadow
Fire Forest Water Shadow Spirit
Fire Forest Spirit Water Shadow
Fire Water Forest Spirit Shadow
Fire Water Forest Shadow Spirit
Water Forest Fire Spirit Shadow
Water Forest Fire Shadow Spirit
Water Forest Spirit Fire Shadow
Water Fire Forest Spirit Shadow
Water Fire Forest Shadow Spirit
That's 18 - four more than before.

Dungeons + sub-dungeons where Spirit and Shadow need LoT:
Forest Fire Ice BotW Water Spirit Shadow
Forest Fire Ice BotW Water Shadow Spirit
Forest Fire Ice BotW Spirit Water Shadow
Forest Fire Ice Water BotW Spirit Shadow
Forest Fire Ice Water BotW Shadow Spirit
Forest Fire BotW Ice Spirit Water Shadow
Forest Fire BotW Ice Water Spirit Shadow
Forest Fire BotW Ice Water Shadow Spirit
Forest Fire BotW Spirit Ice Water Shadow
Forest Ice Fire BotW Water Spirit Shadow
Forest Ice Fire BotW Water Shadow Spirit
Forest Ice Fire BotW Spirit Water Shadow
Forest Ice Fire Water BotW Spirit Shadow
Forest Ice Fire Water BotW Shadow Spirit
Forest Ice BotW Fire Water Spirit Shadow
Forest Ice BotW Fire Water Shadow Spirit
Forest Ice BotW Fire Spirit Water Shadow
Forest Ice BotW Water Fire Spirit Shadow
Forest Ice BotW Water Fire Shadow Spirit
Forest Ice BotW Water Spirit Fire Shadow
Forest Ice BotW Spirit Fire Water Shadow
Forest Ice BotW Spirit Water Fire Shadow
Forest Ice Water Fire BotW Spirit Shadow
Forest Ice Water Fire BotW Shadow Spirit
Forest Ice Water BotW Fire Spirit Shadow
Forest Ice Water BotW Fire Shadow Spirit
Forest Ice Water BotW Spirit Fire Shadow
Forest BotW Fire Ice Spirit Water Shadow
Forest BotW Fire Ice Water Spirit Shadow
Forest BotW Fire Ice Water Shadow Spirit
Forest BotW Fire Spirit Ice Water Shadow
Forest BotW Ice Fire Spirit Water Shadow
Forest BotW Ice Fire Water Spirit Shadow
Forest BotW Ice Fire Water Shadow Spirit
Forest BotW Ice Spirit Fire Water Shadow
Forest BotW Ice Spirit Water Fire Shadow
Forest BotW Ice Water Fire Spirit Shadow
Forest BotW Ice Water Fire Shadow Spirit
Forest BotW Ice Water Spirit Fire Shadow
Forest BotW Spirit Fire Ice Water Shadow
Forest BotW Spirit Ice Fire Water Shadow
Forest BotW Spirit Ice Water Fire Shadow
Fire Forest Ice BotW Water Spirit Shadow
Fire Forest Ice BotW Water Shadow Spirit
Fire Forest Ice BotW Spirit Water Shadow
Fire Forest Ice Water BotW Spirit Shadow
Fire Forest Ice Water BotW Shadow Spirit
Fire Forest BotW Ice Spirit Water Shadow
Fire Forest BotW Ice Water Spirit Shadow
Fire Forest BotW Ice Water Shadow Spirit
Fire Forest BotW Spirit Ice Water Shadow
Fire Ice Forest Water BotW Spirit Shadow
Fire Ice Forest Water BotW Shadow Spirit
Fire Ice Forest BotW Water Spirit Shadow
Fire Ice Forest BotW Water Shadow Spirit
Fire Ice Forest BotW Spirit Water Shadow
Fire Ice Water Forest BotW Spirit Shadow
Fire Ice Water Forest BotW Shadow Spirit
Ice Forest Fire Water BotW Spirit Shadow
Ice Forest Fire Water BotW Shadow Spirit
Ice Forest Fire BotW Water Spirit Shadow
Ice Forest Fire BotW Water Shadow Spirit
Ice Forest Fire BotW Spirit Water Shadow
Ice Forest Water Fire BotW Spirit Shadow
Ice Forest Water Fire BotW Shadow Spirit
Ice Forest Water BotW Fire Spirit Shadow
Ice Forest Water BotW Fire Shadow Spirit
Ice Forest Water BotW Spirit Fire Shadow
Ice Forest BotW Fire Water Spirit Shadow
Ice Forest BotW Fire Water Shadow Spirit
Ice Forest BotW Fire Spirit Water Shadow
Ice Forest BotW Water Fire Spirit Shadow
Ice Forest BotW Water Fire Shadow Spirit
Ice Forest BotW Water Spirit Fire Shadow
Ice Forest BotW Spirit Fire Water Shadow
Ice Forest BotW Spirit Water Fire Shadow
Ice Fire Forest Water BotW Spirit Shadow
Ice Fire Forest Water BotW Shadow Spirit
Ice Fire Forest BotW Water Spirit Shadow
Ice Fire Forest BotW Water Shadow Spirit
Ice Fire Forest BotW Spirit Water Shadow
Ice Fire Water Forest BotW Spirit Shadow
Ice Fire Water Forest BotW Shadow Spirit
Ice Water Forest Fire BotW Spirit Shadow
Ice Water Forest Fire BotW Shadow Spirit
Ice Water Forest BotW Fire Spirit Shadow
Ice Water Forest BotW Fire Shadow Spirit
Ice Water Forest BotW Spirit Fire Shadow
Ice Water Fire Forest BotW Spirit Shadow
Ice Water Fire Forest BotW Shadow Spirit
That's 90 - 14 more than before.

Finally, dungeons + sub-dungeons where you get LoT anytime:
Forest Fire Ice BotW Spirit Water Shadow
Forest Fire Ice BotW Water Spirit Shadow
Forest Fire Ice BotW Water Shadow Spirit
Forest Fire Ice Spirit BotW Water Shadow
Forest Fire Ice Spirit Water BotW Shadow
Forest Fire Ice Spirit Water Shadow BotW
Forest Fire Ice Water BotW Spirit Shadow
Forest Fire Ice Water BotW Shadow Spirit
Forest Fire Ice Water Spirit BotW Shadow
Forest Fire Ice Water Spirit Shadow BotW
Forest Fire Ice Water Shadow BotW Spirit
Forest Fire Ice Water Shadow Spirit BotW
Forest Fire BotW Ice Spirit Water Shadow
Forest Fire BotW Ice Water Spirit Shadow
Forest Fire BotW Ice Water Shadow Spirit
Forest Fire BotW Spirit Ice Water Shadow
Forest Fire Spirit Ice BotW Water Shadow
Forest Fire Spirit Ice Water BotW Shadow
Forest Fire Spirit Ice Water Shadow BotW
Forest Fire Spirit BotW Ice Water Shadow
Forest Ice Fire BotW Spirit Water Shadow
Forest Ice Fire BotW Water Spirit Shadow
Forest Ice Fire BotW Water Shadow Spirit
Forest Ice Fire Spirit BotW Water Shadow
Forest Ice Fire Spirit Water BotW Shadow
Forest Ice Fire Spirit Water Shadow BotW
Forest Ice Fire Water BotW Spirit Shadow
Forest Ice Fire Water BotW Shadow Spirit
Forest Ice Fire Water Spirit BotW Shadow
Forest Ice Fire Water Spirit Shadow BotW
Forest Ice Fire Water Shadow BotW Spirit
Forest Ice Fire Water Shadow Spirit BotW
Forest Ice BotW Fire Spirit Water Shadow
Forest Ice BotW Fire Water Spirit Shadow
Forest Ice BotW Fire Water Shadow Spirit
Forest Ice BotW Spirit Fire Water Shadow
Forest Ice BotW Spirit Water Fire Shadow
Forest Ice BotW Water Fire Spirit Shadow
Forest Ice BotW Water Fire Shadow Spirit
Forest Ice BotW Water Spirit Fire Shadow
Forest Ice Spirit Fire BotW Water Shadow
Forest Ice Spirit Fire Water BotW Shadow
Forest Ice Spirit Fire Water Shadow BotW
Forest Ice Spirit BotW Fire Water Shadow
Forest Ice Spirit BotW Water Fire Shadow
Forest Ice Spirit Water Fire BotW Shadow
Forest Ice Spirit Water Fire Shadow BotW
Forest Ice Spirit Water BotW Fire Shadow
Forest Ice Water Fire BotW Spirit Shadow
Forest Ice Water Fire BotW Shadow Spirit
Forest Ice Water Fire Spirit BotW Shadow
Forest Ice Water Fire Spirit Shadow BotW
Forest Ice Water Fire Shadow BotW Spirit
Forest Ice Water Fire Shadow Spirit BotW
Forest Ice Water BotW Fire Spirit Shadow
Forest Ice Water BotW Fire Shadow Spirit
Forest Ice Water BotW Spirit Fire Shadow
Forest Ice Water Spirit Fire BotW Shadow
Forest Ice Water Spirit Fire Shadow BotW
Forest Ice Water Spirit BotW Fire Shadow
Forest BotW Fire Ice Spirit Water Shadow
Forest BotW Fire Ice Water Spirit Shadow
Forest BotW Fire Ice Water Shadow Spirit
Forest BotW Fire Spirit Ice Water Shadow
Forest BotW Ice Fire Spirit Water Shadow
Forest BotW Ice Fire Water Spirit Shadow
Forest BotW Ice Fire Water Shadow Spirit
Forest BotW Ice Spirit Fire Water Shadow
Forest BotW Ice Spirit Water Fire Shadow
Forest BotW Ice Water Fire Spirit Shadow
Forest BotW Ice Water Fire Shadow Spirit
Forest BotW Ice Water Spirit Fire Shadow
Forest BotW Spirit Fire Ice Water Shadow
Forest BotW Spirit Ice Fire Water Shadow
Forest BotW Spirit Ice Water Fire Shadow
Forest Spirit Fire Ice BotW Water Shadow
Forest Spirit Fire Ice Water BotW Shadow
Forest Spirit Fire Ice Water Shadow BotW
Forest Spirit Fire BotW Ice Water Shadow
Forest Spirit Ice Fire BotW Water Shadow
Forest Spirit Ice Fire Water BotW Shadow
Forest Spirit Ice Fire Water Shadow BotW
Forest Spirit Ice BotW Fire Water Shadow
Forest Spirit Ice BotW Water Fire Shadow
Forest Spirit Ice Water Fire BotW Shadow
Forest Spirit Ice Water Fire Shadow BotW
Forest Spirit Ice Water BotW Fire Shadow
Forest Spirit BotW Fire Ice Water Shadow
Forest Spirit BotW Ice Fire Water Shadow
Forest Spirit BotW Ice Water Fire Shadow
Fire Forest Ice BotW Spirit Water Shadow
Fire Forest Ice BotW Water Spirit Shadow
Fire Forest Ice BotW Water Shadow Spirit
Fire Forest Ice Spirit BotW Water Shadow
Fire Forest Ice Spirit Water BotW Shadow
Fire Forest Ice Spirit Water Shadow BotW
Fire Forest Ice Water BotW Spirit Shadow
Fire Forest Ice Water BotW Shadow Spirit
Fire Forest Ice Water Spirit BotW Shadow
Fire Forest Ice Water Spirit Shadow BotW
Fire Forest Ice Water Shadow BotW Spirit
Fire Forest Ice Water Shadow Spirit BotW
Fire Forest BotW Ice Spirit Water Shadow
Fire Forest BotW Ice Water Spirit Shadow
Fire Forest BotW Ice Water Shadow Spirit
Fire Forest BotW Spirit Ice Water Shadow
Fire Forest Spirit Ice BotW Water Shadow
Fire Forest Spirit Ice Water BotW Shadow
Fire Forest Spirit Ice Water Shadow BotW
Fire Forest Spirit BotW Ice Water Shadow
Fire Ice Forest Water BotW Spirit Shadow
Fire Ice Forest Water BotW Shadow Spirit
Fire Ice Forest Water Spirit BotW Shadow
Fire Ice Forest Water Spirit Shadow BotW
Fire Ice Forest Water Shadow BotW Spirit
Fire Ice Forest Water Shadow Spirit BotW
Fire Ice Forest BotW Water Spirit Shadow
Fire Ice Forest BotW Water Shadow Spirit
Fire Ice Forest BotW Spirit Water Shadow
Fire Ice Forest Spirit Water BotW Shadow
Fire Ice Forest Spirit Water Shadow BotW
Fire Ice Forest Spirit BotW Water Shadow
Fire Ice Water Forest BotW Spirit Shadow
Fire Ice Water Forest BotW Shadow Spirit
Fire Ice Water Forest Spirit BotW Shadow
Fire Ice Water Forest Spirit Shadow BotW
Fire Ice Water Forest Shadow BotW Spirit
Fire Ice Water Forest Shadow Spirit BotW
Ice Forest Fire Water BotW Spirit Shadow
Ice Forest Fire Water BotW Shadow Spirit
Ice Forest Fire Water Spirit BotW Shadow
Ice Forest Fire Water Spirit Shadow BotW
Ice Forest Fire Water Shadow BotW Spirit
Ice Forest Fire Water Shadow Spirit BotW
Ice Forest Fire BotW Water Spirit Shadow
Ice Forest Fire BotW Water Shadow Spirit
Ice Forest Fire BotW Spirit Water Shadow
Ice Forest Fire Spirit Water BotW Shadow
Ice Forest Fire Spirit Water Shadow BotW
Ice Forest Fire Spirit BotW Water Shadow
Ice Forest Water Fire BotW Spirit Shadow
Ice Forest Water Fire BotW Shadow Spirit
Ice Forest Water Fire Spirit BotW Shadow
Ice Forest Water Fire Spirit Shadow BotW
Ice Forest Water Fire Shadow BotW Spirit
Ice Forest Water Fire Shadow Spirit BotW
Ice Forest Water BotW Fire Spirit Shadow
Ice Forest Water BotW Fire Shadow Spirit
Ice Forest Water BotW Spirit Fire Shadow
Ice Forest Water Spirit Fire BotW Shadow
Ice Forest Water Spirit Fire Shadow BotW
Ice Forest Water Spirit BotW Fire Shadow
Ice Forest BotW Fire Water Spirit Shadow
Ice Forest BotW Fire Water Shadow Spirit
Ice Forest BotW Fire Spirit Water Shadow
Ice Forest BotW Water Fire Spirit Shadow
Ice Forest BotW Water Fire Shadow Spirit
Ice Forest BotW Water Spirit Fire Shadow
Ice Forest BotW Spirit Fire Water Shadow
Ice Forest BotW Spirit Water Fire Shadow
Ice Forest Spirit Fire Water BotW Shadow
Ice Forest Spirit Fire Water Shadow BotW
Ice Forest Spirit Fire BotW Water Shadow
Ice Forest Spirit Water Fire BotW Shadow
Ice Forest Spirit Water Fire Shadow BotW
Ice Forest Spirit Water BotW Fire Shadow
Ice Forest Spirit BotW Fire Water Shadow
Ice Forest Spirit BotW Water Fire Shadow
Ice Fire Forest Water BotW Spirit Shadow
Ice Fire Forest Water BotW Shadow Spirit
Ice Fire Forest Water Spirit BotW Shadow
Ice Fire Forest Water Spirit Shadow BotW
Ice Fire Forest Water Shadow BotW Spirit
Ice Fire Forest Water Shadow Spirit BotW
Ice Fire Forest BotW Water Spirit Shadow
Ice Fire Forest BotW Water Shadow Spirit
Ice Fire Forest BotW Spirit Water Shadow
Ice Fire Forest Spirit Water BotW Shadow
Ice Fire Forest Spirit Water Shadow BotW
Ice Fire Forest Spirit BotW Water Shadow
Ice Fire Water Forest BotW Spirit Shadow
Ice Fire Water Forest BotW Shadow Spirit
Ice Fire Water Forest Spirit BotW Shadow
Ice Fire Water Forest Spirit Shadow BotW
Ice Fire Water Forest Shadow BotW Spirit
Ice Fire Water Forest Shadow Spirit BotW
Ice Water Forest Fire BotW Spirit Shadow
Ice Water Forest Fire BotW Shadow Spirit
Ice Water Forest Fire Spirit BotW Shadow
Ice Water Forest Fire Spirit Shadow BotW
Ice Water Forest Fire Shadow BotW Spirit
Ice Water Forest Fire Shadow Spirit BotW
Ice Water Forest BotW Fire Spirit Shadow
Ice Water Forest BotW Fire Shadow Spirit
Ice Water Forest BotW Spirit Fire Shadow
Ice Water Forest Spirit Fire BotW Shadow
Ice Water Forest Spirit Fire Shadow BotW
Ice Water Forest Spirit BotW Fire Shadow
Ice Water Fire Forest BotW Spirit Shadow
Ice Water Fire Forest BotW Shadow Spirit
Ice Water Fire Forest Spirit BotW Shadow
Ice Water Fire Forest Spirit Shadow BotW
Ice Water Fire Forest Shadow BotW Spirit
Ice Water Fire Forest Shadow Spirit BotW
That's 204 runs (81 more than before), with an extra 42 runs if you skip BotW.

I think it's actually possible to do Jabu Jabu then Dodongo's Cavern if you nab the bombs from the latter and then beat the former, which would double the amount of runs, but I'm not sure.

So, yeah, that's an awful lot of orders. Is there a character limit for posts on this forum? I'm kinda surprised I didn't hit it.
 

MW7

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Location
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Here are all the dungeon orders if you beat dungeons when you start them:
Forest Fire Water Spirit Shadow
Forest Fire Water Shadow Spirit
Forest Water Fire Spirit Shadow
Forest Water Fire Shadow Spirit
Forest Water Spirit Fire Shadow
Fire Forest Water Spirit Shadow
Fire Forest Water Shadow Spirit
Fire Water Forest Spirit Shadow
Fire Water Forest Shadow Spirit
Water Forest Fire Spirit Shadow
Water Forest Fire Shadow Spirit
Water Forest Spirit Fire Shadow
Water Fire Forest Spirit Shadow
Water Fire Forest Shadow Spirit
That's 14 orders in all.

Thank you for doing that. I was sure I had to have missed some orders for my list. The one thing is that I actually was aware that you could do Water before Forest, but I decided to limit it to what was possible in OOT 3d. They made it so that you can't just jump to the top water switch anymore which annoyed me. They left in other much more major glitches, but for some reason they stop you from doing that anymore. One other thing they changed that annoyed me is they fixed the river of sand in the Haunted Wasteland so that you can't walk backwards along the edge to cross it. Those two tiny glitches made it possible to do the two orders Forest, Spirit, Water/Fire, Shadow without having to enter the Water Temple before doing the Spirit Temple. I've done one of those orders on the N64 so I can confirm that you don't need the longshot inside the Spirit Temple (it definitely helps though), but in OOT 3d now you definitely have to have the longshot to reach the temple which wasn't the case before.
 
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If you're willing to abuse glitches in the N64 version, it's possible to do the dungeons in practically any order. There's a great let's play on youtube where someone's doing the dungeons in reverse order, so starting from the Spirit Temple and working back to the Deku Tree, although sadly it seems to have stopped after the Fire Temple.

I re-ran the program considering the 3DS requirements, and you were right for that: there are only seven orders if you beat dungeons once you start them.

I'd like to know how MQ compares in terms of number of orders. I've not played it yet (soon, though!) but if it changes the puzzles inside the dungeons it must affect what orders you can do it in. Does anyone have any information on that?
 

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I really don't know Master Quest that well (talking about on the 3ds here; I really don't know anything about the other version except that they'd be mostly the same except glitch-wise), but I remember two differences are that you don't need the bow to finish the Water Temple (you might need it to 100% the dungeon though, not sure) and you have to have the megaton hammer in the Spirit Temple. Also it's actually significantly helpful to have the longshot in the Forest Temple in Master Quest (I think you can skip a key or something like that; this I just heard though but haven't tried). I'm fairly certain they wouldn't have changed the requrements to reach the Shadow Temple also. The one thing I really can't remember is if the bow is required in the Master Quest Fire Temple, but I think it is.
 
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Well, that's boring. That means you can beat the Forest, Water and Fire dungeons in any order, and then you can go on to beat the Spirit and Shadow dungeons in either order, giving us 12 runs and certainly none as interesting as Water - Forest - Spirit - Fire - Shadow. At least they kept the non-linearity though.
 

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