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I was compiling these quotes as I read through the thread, so be sure to read my post thoroughly so you don't only get part of the story.
These posts originally jumped out to me as blind and scummy. It's a reckless and not a very helpful way of playing, and can be a detriment to either side due to the probability of such actions causing a mislynch. If this is Atticus's meta as I've seen said, it's not a very good one. Immediately I thought that my vote on Atticus would stay put.
The very last quote made me especially suspicious.
Also, this was another one my thoughts; it was only a fleeting thought, however. I do not support this action.
I think that this claim is real. The main reason I am apt to believe this claim is not because no one counterclaimed or because she didn't appear scummy in the first place. It is because of the ability itself. This is not a typical vengeful townie, and we can bet on Viral trying something like this. A Vengeful townie, not any that I've ever seen anyway, does not typically have the ability to choose the target they want to take down with them from their voters list. This would be a very practical use the Twilight period common in Viral's games, and the style of the role is very unique and something I would attribute to Viral to use. This claim immediately struck me as real.
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This claim also, unfortunately, would mark her as a very likely candidate for a mafia nightkill. Vengeful can be a very powerful and game-changing role, especially with the freedom given to her by her ability's uniqueness. Typical mafia simply wouldn't hammer, but that won't save them now, and when it comes to the end of the game and her claim could be disputed and twisted by silver-tongued mafia, it could end up being more dangerous than anything for them. Not only is it a solid early-game claim (and I've already stated my reasons for thinking it's solid), but it's also a solid power role. I believe Mafia also get Victory Points or whatever for nightkilling a town power role, so that would be all the more incentive for them to nightkill her tonight. That's an unfortunate price paid for claiming to get out of a situation such as this. It would be very much to their advantage.
The obvious reaction to this situation, however, would be getting a doctor to protect her. But who even says there is a doctor in this game? Hell, I've seen it before. Maybe one-shot doctor-esque roles? Jack-of-all-trades? Who knows. But, I'm going to go against the very obvious first thought and attempt to throw balance off the course of the already shaky night actions by Mafia here. I'm going to advise the doctor to not protect Atticus. Obviously, if I tell the doctor to do so, the Mafia will avoid the doctor. You know who I think they would come after first? Me. That is why I suggest the doctor protect a skilled player, such as myself, that has not been confirmed yet. Or perhaps someone like Josh, who has time and time again proven to be a critical asset to whichever side he's on. That means the town, for instance.
This throws the mafia off balance. Now what do they do? Sic the nightkill onto Atticus? Put it onto me in fear that I could become a critical asset to the town? Bank it onto another skilled townie? Well, now they don't know what to do, do they? It makes things shaky for the Mafia. Their actions are now more critical than before. However, I do advise that the doctor take to me. I didn't throw that suggestion out there for nothing, and it could sound condescending saying it, but I could be a very critical asset for the town. I am important to the town, that is what I will reveal. And to those of you who think I may be bluffing simply for doctor protection, then the cop could investigate me. I wouldn't need protection if I were godfather, so leaving out the rare possibility (both by chance of getting the role and Viral adding the role) of a goon role that lets me appear as town, you would confirm I'm not a goon looking for easy doctor protection. Naturally all in the same this could be a roundabout bluff, but there are a lot of better ways to go about this than trying to get into a long and complicated bluff if I were mafia. For safety's sake.
And Atticus taking a nightkill blow is not necessarily for the worse, either. Knowing there is a vengeful townie among us and knowing exactly who it is poses a complicated situation. Even if they left her alive now, she could prove to be useless to us throughout the game because the Mafia wouldn't dare tack onto her, and neither would any townie because their firm belief that she is a townie. The cop would likely confirm this. So the mafia would have a one-up in eliminating a power role tonight that could turn out to be very deadly for them late-game (since she claimed, which alone makes her a good mafia target). I think the right thing to do here is sacrifice Atticus in the nightkill and protect someone who could have much more unpredictable helpful power. I obviously already suggested myself. If the mafia have a strongman, they have no reason to use it on me at this point. They have no idea whether I could mislead the town into a terrible mislynch or not because of my persuasive power from experience in this game, which has already been exhibited in a mere two posts. Thus they would be better conserving it for someone who could be a larger threat.
That is all I have to say. I do not have any other suspects besides Pendio. Throughout the day, I have not noticed any escalating scum behavior from fused despite the pressure put onto him. I do not believe he is scum.
I hope my previous statement alleviated that a little bit. Like I said, I constructed this as I went through the thread, so I promise my earlier statements were not influenced by this quote.
These posts originally jumped out to me as blind and scummy. It's a reckless and not a very helpful way of playing, and can be a detriment to either side due to the probability of such actions causing a mislynch. If this is Atticus's meta as I've seen said, it's not a very good one. Immediately I thought that my vote on Atticus would stay put.
The very last quote made me especially suspicious.
Josh said:
Also, this was another one my thoughts; it was only a fleeting thought, however. I do not support this action.
Atticus said:
I think that this claim is real. The main reason I am apt to believe this claim is not because no one counterclaimed or because she didn't appear scummy in the first place. It is because of the ability itself. This is not a typical vengeful townie, and we can bet on Viral trying something like this. A Vengeful townie, not any that I've ever seen anyway, does not typically have the ability to choose the target they want to take down with them from their voters list. This would be a very practical use the Twilight period common in Viral's games, and the style of the role is very unique and something I would attribute to Viral to use. This claim immediately struck me as real.
Unvote
This claim also, unfortunately, would mark her as a very likely candidate for a mafia nightkill. Vengeful can be a very powerful and game-changing role, especially with the freedom given to her by her ability's uniqueness. Typical mafia simply wouldn't hammer, but that won't save them now, and when it comes to the end of the game and her claim could be disputed and twisted by silver-tongued mafia, it could end up being more dangerous than anything for them. Not only is it a solid early-game claim (and I've already stated my reasons for thinking it's solid), but it's also a solid power role. I believe Mafia also get Victory Points or whatever for nightkilling a town power role, so that would be all the more incentive for them to nightkill her tonight. That's an unfortunate price paid for claiming to get out of a situation such as this. It would be very much to their advantage.
The obvious reaction to this situation, however, would be getting a doctor to protect her. But who even says there is a doctor in this game? Hell, I've seen it before. Maybe one-shot doctor-esque roles? Jack-of-all-trades? Who knows. But, I'm going to go against the very obvious first thought and attempt to throw balance off the course of the already shaky night actions by Mafia here. I'm going to advise the doctor to not protect Atticus. Obviously, if I tell the doctor to do so, the Mafia will avoid the doctor. You know who I think they would come after first? Me. That is why I suggest the doctor protect a skilled player, such as myself, that has not been confirmed yet. Or perhaps someone like Josh, who has time and time again proven to be a critical asset to whichever side he's on. That means the town, for instance.
This throws the mafia off balance. Now what do they do? Sic the nightkill onto Atticus? Put it onto me in fear that I could become a critical asset to the town? Bank it onto another skilled townie? Well, now they don't know what to do, do they? It makes things shaky for the Mafia. Their actions are now more critical than before. However, I do advise that the doctor take to me. I didn't throw that suggestion out there for nothing, and it could sound condescending saying it, but I could be a very critical asset for the town. I am important to the town, that is what I will reveal. And to those of you who think I may be bluffing simply for doctor protection, then the cop could investigate me. I wouldn't need protection if I were godfather, so leaving out the rare possibility (both by chance of getting the role and Viral adding the role) of a goon role that lets me appear as town, you would confirm I'm not a goon looking for easy doctor protection. Naturally all in the same this could be a roundabout bluff, but there are a lot of better ways to go about this than trying to get into a long and complicated bluff if I were mafia. For safety's sake.
And Atticus taking a nightkill blow is not necessarily for the worse, either. Knowing there is a vengeful townie among us and knowing exactly who it is poses a complicated situation. Even if they left her alive now, she could prove to be useless to us throughout the game because the Mafia wouldn't dare tack onto her, and neither would any townie because their firm belief that she is a townie. The cop would likely confirm this. So the mafia would have a one-up in eliminating a power role tonight that could turn out to be very deadly for them late-game (since she claimed, which alone makes her a good mafia target). I think the right thing to do here is sacrifice Atticus in the nightkill and protect someone who could have much more unpredictable helpful power. I obviously already suggested myself. If the mafia have a strongman, they have no reason to use it on me at this point. They have no idea whether I could mislead the town into a terrible mislynch or not because of my persuasive power from experience in this game, which has already been exhibited in a mere two posts. Thus they would be better conserving it for someone who could be a larger threat.
That is all I have to say. I do not have any other suspects besides Pendio. Throughout the day, I have not noticed any escalating scum behavior from fused despite the pressure put onto him. I do not believe he is scum.
Atticus said:
I hope my previous statement alleviated that a little bit. Like I said, I constructed this as I went through the thread, so I promise my earlier statements were not influenced by this quote.
