I wouldn't worry, you'll probably get a lot of that. The game developer interviews carry a lot of weight since they designed the games, and with the inclusion of an official timeline it only strengthens their words. I mean at the moment very few quotes don't match up with what the timeline has shown us, so it all holds up on those grounds. Since people are adjusting to the official supplements, it'll be the go-to response for many. Also be aware not everyone will read previous responses or will have skimmed the OP so there'll be repeat answers, too.
Iknow, but i'm hoping everyone will read the giant bold print in my first post.
Anyway regarding after Spirit Tracks...
I've never really gotten the mentality behind "The water recedes, Old Hyrule returns". Hyrule was washed away. On the King's wish on the Triforce, Hyrule was to be lost, and it was up to Tetra/Zelda to establish a new land. She chose the Locomos' land, and she called it Hyrule as well. That, I'm afraid, is now Hyrule. Whether or not the water recedes there won't be any going back to Old Hyrule since there's nothing there to establish it now. The monarchy has a Hyrule. It has a population and legends. It even has the hero. What would be the point in, many centuries down the line, everyone suddenly up and goes "Oop, water's gone let's go back to the probably uninhabitable wasteland again!"
I meant that there might be a surviving colony that stayed around after the flood and this could lead to the events of FS/FSA. I haven't played Wind Waker, so i didn't know the exact wish that the king used the triforce for. Now that i do, i'll look back over it and hopefully iron this little bump out.
Thank you for the post
What's the point, you ask? What's the point of splitting the timeline? To make room for more games.
Sorry, is this question for me? if it is, i know why the timeline splits and agree that it does create more room for new games. I just don't like time splitting, it's a personal thing.
Thanks for the post
Timeline in full
Right, like i promised yesterday, i'm typing up my timeline theory as fully as possible. Please bear in mind that when i wrote this, i didn't know the hyrule king's exact wish in WW, so in my timeline, i thought the flood could recede.
SS- every zelda fan knows this goes first; shows the origin of the master sword etc., etc..
MC- i've now put this before LoZ/AoL because it shows the origin of the cap, which is why it also went before OoT las time; i just forgot when i last moved LoZ/AoL
LoZ/AoL- share the same link, so go one after the other. Due to the extreme lack of backstory in these two games, there isn't a lot to oppose any placement in the timeline. The main point of history mentioned in LoZ/AoL is that of Zelda I, the princess link wakes at the end of AoL, and the prince who waned the whole triforce. Due to there being (to my knowledge) no mention of this in any other game, i don't see a problem with placing them here, which keeps it out of the way from post-OoT, when it gets more confusing.
OoT/MM- same link, so after direct sequels. I won't talk much about its placement, because with pretty much everything else, i write that it either goes before or after OoT.
This is where the timeline gets confusing, as a lot needs to still be fitted in and the flood really messed with my previous timelines, so i'll try to keep it simple, but it may get a bit confusing.
TP- comes after OoT because of several small links (pardon the pun): inc. picture of OoT fishing game guy in fishing game shack, similar landscape, possible connection between large mirror in spirit temple and mirror of twilight.
Comes before WW because Zoras evolve into other species (can't remember the name, >.<) and master sword would otherwise have to go from ganon's head to the sacred grounds.
Comes before LttP because it involves the triforce, which is left at the top of the pyramid afte LttP and is there at the beginning of OoX, which leads to the flood.
Ganon's execution:
As explained in the TP cutscene, Ganon recieved the ToP as a "gift" from the goddesses in some sort of "divine prank". I reckon the sages just underestimated ganon and he actually got the ToP from the sacred realm before they realised (Zelda Wiki-Ganon Conflicts). The remaining two parts had to wait for zelda and link to come along because there was no-one that suited the Triforce qualities well enough at the time. If someone has a better theory, let me know please.
LttP-OoX/LA- Intro in WW says ganon returned, but the hero of time wasn't there to stop him. This doesn't mean another link can't come into play, namely LttP link. This leads into OoX, which starts with link going to the sacred realm and touching the triforce which takes him to Labrynna/the other one
S). This goes straight to LA, after the flood. the flood goes to WW.
WW/PH-ST- Leads on from OoX flood. The master sword after this as it is embedded in ganon's head. PH is a direct sequel and ST is after it in new hyrule after ~100 years. This is an open end for more games in new hyrule.
After PH, the flood recedes allowing some surviving colonies that remained near old hyrule to repopulate it. This leads to:
FS/FSA- with no connection to any game but MC, they can fit anywhere after it without much opposition. I didn't want to put it between OoT and LttP because that time would soon get very cramped and confusing. In FSA, it gives details of ganon's origins, so it is not a previous ganon. This fits as G1, 2 and 3 are all dead (LoZ, TP, WW chronologically; LoZ, WW, TP in order of ganons), so we are due another ganon.
This should clear up why i placed certain games where they are, but if there's anything i missed or any faults you can see, other than the only-recently-brought-to-my-attention WW king's wish criteria, please let me know. Also post if you have a better ganon/ToP/divine prank theory, thanks.
Onto the Master Sword:
In the end of SS, it is in the sealed temple, which many believe to become the temple of time and time pedestal. In OoT, link finds it in the temple of time, where it was left. at the end, he places it back in the temple of time.
After the temple of time crumbles, the master sword is found at its old site in TP. At the end it is placed back in the old woods, where LttP link finds it and replaces it after LttP.
WW. I haven't played this, so i had to do a little research on this. It is found on the pedestal of time according to Zelda Wiki, which fits with LttP, but in Hyrule castle. The master sword is never left in hyrule castle, so whatever game you place before WW, this error occurs. I'm thinking they either moved the pedestal of time into hyrule castle, because they decided it was unsafe left in the lost woods, or the built a new hyrule castle around it, the former being much more likely. If i am mistaken in this, please post.
The master sword is never used afterwards
Triforce state:
please note that when i made my timeline, i wasn't keeping this in mind, so this will likely be where my timeline falls apart.
SS: ends whole
Pre-LoZ: royal family rule with the triforce. Thinking they split it and keep its separate pieces safe with various family members.
LoZ/AoL: ends whole and Link uses it to wish for Zelda I to wake. This means the triforce goes back to the sacred realm as its wish was used up.
OoT: from sacred realm, it splits when ganon touches it and ends split
MM: sort of irrelevant, but link has the ToC
All right, this is where the plot holes start appearing.
In TP, it starts and ends split, but my explanation of ganon's execution means it ultimately starts whole. Also, it doesn't fit with:
LttP: starts and ends whole
OoX: stays whole throughout in sacred realm
WW: i haven't played this,
so i don't know how the triforce starts out, but i know it ends whole and its wish is used, so it goes back to the sacred realm.
Haven't played FSA either, but i don't think the triforce is involved in it. If i'm wrong, please tell me.
A possible solution to the TP-LttP triforce issue is that once all three carriers die, maybe it goes back to the sacred realm, whole again. If anyone has a better theory, post it please.
To recap: if anyone finds holes in my timeline, other than the triforce thing, please point them out.
If anyone finds a better theory to Ganon's TP, ToP, divine prank thing, let me know.
If anyone knows or has an idea on what happens if all three carriers of the triforce die (e.g. old age), let me know.
If anyone can think of a way to explain the triforce thing between OoT-TP-LttP, please tell me.
Can someone let me know how the triforce starts out in WW, please.
If anyone can better place FS/FSA, considering the flood in old hyrule should technically never recede, please tell me.
I will be looking into these issues as much as i can around my schoolwork and revision, but i would be grateful if anyone has an idea. Thank you