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[Fraxinus]

no one cares about how effort people put into making stuff exist

they just want it to exist

on demand



back to drawing wasps with me tho

 

[The Dashing Darknut]

Oh whoop de doo, you've got warm fuzzies from a fulfilling job, good for you. Is anyone else benefitting from your job in a way they couldn't get anywhere else? People can get entertainment from people that don't do it for their job. Same can't be said for stuff like medical care, plumbing, farming, etc...

So, being a video game creator isn’t beneficial, therefore non fulfilling. But we still play them a lot and love them, but since they don’t help why should it be a job?

Same logic applies

 

[Fraxinus]

Same can't be said for stuff like medical care

i'd just like to add

my sister would disagree

who spent an entire month in tears over not matching for residency because urology was the most competitive this year it ever has been and nothing she brought to the table made her stand out among 700 some other residents

i watched my sister almost give up on her dream because there are 700 other people who had the same skillset as she did, my sister who spent 10 hours a day for an entire year studying her ass off for board exams

 

[Link&Midna]

How is art entertainment overrated?

It’s a real job

Is me wanting to be an artist for my job not fulfilling? Is being a musician or author as your main job not fulfilling?

It can be a real job, but it's a very hard one to actually succeed in
Personally can't help but scoff at people who think they're entitled to a whole career in art just because they can draw, I've seen so many comic pages saying stuff like "tip my Kofi, artists need to eat too!!!" Or "please subscribe to my patreon so I can make a living off of these comics!! Isn't it so SAD how these don't pay my bills???" And I'm like. Dawg just cus you draw stick figure comics with punchlines like "you're telling me SHRIMP fried this rice???" doesn't mean you shouldn't have to work like the rest of us
So many people have this weird idea that they should inherently get rewarded for their art, like, unless it's a commission for someone you aren't entitled to something in return, and I find it kind of cringe when people complain that (non commissioned) art doesn't make them money or get them popular, cus if you're creating art the purpose is usually to have fun and express your own feelings

 

[Chevywolf30]

So, being a video game creator isn’t beneficial, therefore non fulfilling. But we still play them a lot and love them, but since they don’t help why should it be a job?

Same logic applies

No, you're 100% correct

 

[Chevywolf30]

i'd just like to add

my sister would disagree

who spent an entire month in tears over not matching for residency because urology was the most competitive this year it ever has been and nothing she brought to the table made her stand out among 700 some other residents

Ok maybe I wasn't clear, I was saying that if you want medical care it HAS to be from a professional, wheras entertainment products do not have to be professionally produced

 

[Chevywolf30]

It can be a real job, but it's a very hard one to actually succeed in
Personally can't help but scoff at people who think they're entitled to a whole career in art just because they can draw, I've seen so many comic pages saying stuff like "tip my Kofi, artists need to eat too!!!" Or "please subscribe to my patreon so I can make a living off of these comics!! Isn't it so SAD how these don't pay my bills???" And I'm like. Dawg just cus you draw stick figure comics with punchlines like "you're telling me SHRIMP fried this rice???" doesn't mean you shouldn't have to work like the rest of us
So many people have this weird idea that they should inherently get rewarded for their art, like, unless it's a commission for someone you aren't entitled to something in return, and I find it kind of cringe when people complain that (non commissioned) art doesn't make them money or get them popular, cus if you're creating art the purpose is usually to have fun and express your own feelings

I think you're more on the money than I am, too many people try too hard to make it in art instead of a more traditional job so it just gets oversaturated and I see that and invalidate the whole thing

 

[Fraxinus]

but what is the qualification?

if people can do the same thing you can do?

what is the point of doing anything

labor is replaceable, no matter what, isnt it

 

[Fraxinus]

wait heck im supposed to be drawing wasps, not inducing existential despair

 

[Chevywolf30]

Yeah but stuff like blue collar jobs and medical professionals need specialized training. And yes, I know that art school exists but you can make quality art (Be it drawings, animations or what have you) with little to no training, soley on talent alone.

 

[Mikey the Moblin]

1 companies need graphic designers to make logos and website layouts for them, improving their revenue and retention
2 cities need art initiatives especially in cities that thrive on tourism markets
3 games and movies and books obviously need a ton of artists
4 humanity needs music to survive, this is indisputable

I want my art to not just be stick figures. I want to do it for people as they requested and to share a bit of myself, what I like, etc.

I’m gonna have to start making my own money soon and doing chores doesn’t make me money and parents shouldn’t give money just for doing standard housework

And you know I don’t wanna do something soul draining, because school is already like that

when you turn 16 you can get an easy going part time job at a movie theater or crafts store or something
it's good to have ambitions for sure but I certainly wouldn't just give up on everything to be an artist, that seems ill-advised

 

[Mikey the Moblin]

Yeah but stuff like blue collar jobs and medical professionals need specialized training. And yes, I know that art school exists but you can make quality art (Be it drawings, animations or what have you) with little to no training, soley on talent alone.

drawing is harder than any job I've had personally

 

[Chevywolf30]

Well I guess I wasted all that money on that art camp that I spent two weeks going to. Totally worthless. Isn’t that nice

I didn't say that? Just that some people just have insane talent lol

 

[TheGreatCthulhu]

I think you're more on the money than I am, too many people try too hard to make it in art instead of a more traditional job so it just gets oversaturated and I see that and invalidate the whole thing

Ah, now I see what you're saying.

And I would agree with the idea that art, by its very nature, leads to an unsteady income because of how artists think. So if one was to pursue art, I definitely agree that they should, and ought, to get a job with a steady income.

It doesn't have to be a trade job or farming, or a corporate job, it just has to be one with a steady income, and even in the arts there are tangential jobs that do offer a steady income.

Basically, pursue art for the passion, is what I'm saying, and while you can have a decades long career doing art and make a nice, steady living with it, you have to understand it isn't owed to you.

At least that's where I stand.

 

[Chevywolf30]

But I don’t want a traditional job

I tried working with my mom unloading things for people before and it was draining. I hated it

I don’t think there’s a traditional job that I’d like

Sometimes, you just have to work even if you're not enjoying it. That's life.