sigurd
Hylian Knight
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- May 18, 2011
remeber they have powers of teleportation so they could have built it on the ground before hylians and teleported it to the sky or flew it up
remeber they have powers of teleportation so they could have built it before hylians and teleported it to the sky or flew it up
Yeah, this wasn't in the game. I've actually never heard of it, either. Well, whoever said it is either trying to make stuff up to make himself look smart and/or confuse people, or just didn't know what he was talking about.
Or, you know, it could be a plausible theory.
Sounds like you're trying to make it sound like the opposite of plausible. (also, the next quote is also arguing the in-plausibility of this argument)Do you know what the word "plausible" means? That's exactly what I was saying.
I've never built a door, but I have yet to find one I cannot use. No matter how hard I try, I doubt I'd be able to build a usable door. I didn't build my computer, my TV, my couch, my apartment, my car; practically everything I use, but that doesn't stop me from using any of it. Just because the Oocca didn't necessarilly build something doesn't mean they can't figure out how to use it.But the doors are still there. They still use them. If they can't build them, then they can't use them. That argument has a major flaw.
Sounds like you're trying to make it sound like the opposite of plausible. (also, the next quote is also arguing the in-plausibility of this argument)
I've never built a door, but I have yet to find one I cannot use. No matter how hard I try, I doubt I'd be able to build a usable door. I didn't build my computer, my TV, my couch, my apartment, my car; practically everything I use, but that doesn't stop me from using any of it. Just because the Oocca didn't necessarilly build something doesn't mean they can't figure out how to use it.
I do not see how there is a flaw in the reasoning that they could have come after and used what they didn't build. It may not be a correct theory, but we do not know what the right answer is so until that time no plausible theory is incorrect, either.
was in response to thisOr, you know, it could be a plausible theory.
which was a reply to thisYeah, this wasn't in the game. I've actually never heard of it, either. Well, whoever said it is either trying to make stuff up to make himself look smart and/or confuse people, or just didn't know what he was talking about.
you weren't arguing about the goddesses' involvement.I may be remembering something wrong, but I think there was some scrap of evidence somewhere that they moved in after the creator's had moved out/moved on/died. Though I can't find anything canon about it right now.
I'm not talking about the Goddesses theory. That's a completely separate thing. If you read what of yours I quoted you'd see what I was talking about. It's possible you misunderstood the topic when I said it could be a plausible theory, but it's still very rude to imply I don't know the meaning of "plausible". Not to mention if I replied to "that's plausible" (your post), with "or, that's plausible" (my post), it wouldn't have made any sense; so it's fairly simple to tell which part I was replying to (which was, of course, I was replying to your reply of my post, obviously).
Physically incapable of building a door and physically incapable of using a door are two different things.
I've seen a dog use a door. Here's a video for proof.[video=youtube;pexWDe-Xik8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pexWDe-Xik8[/video]
So (now correct me if I'm wrong), by that logic, that dog should be physically capable of building that kind of door?
To clear up some confusion, thiswas in response to thiswhich was a reply to thisyou weren't arguing about the goddesses' involvement.
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Speaking under the guidance of Occam's razor, we have a race and a city. Therefore, it's best to assume that the race created the city. It is unnecessary to create another race to create the city. It has been shown through the Dominion Rod and references to other such tools that they have mastery over objects through magic. Since it is possible for them to create the city, the anti-razor you (JJ) are presenting is not valid. There are other anti-razors, however. These include the excessive scale of the whole structure except the shop, the existence of Skyloftians who may or may not be or be related to the Oocca, and the Dominion Rod being designed for a messenger, rather than for the Oocca themselves. Of course, all of these also have counter-arguments. For now, I'll take the stance I started this paragraph with, while also assuming the possibility of the race previously having a more humanoid form to account for some of the anti-razors.
That statement is a contrapositive. Meaning it's the same thing as "If they can use them, they can build them."If they can't build them, then they can't use them.
It IS the same thing. Until you can provide counter evidence my evidence stands. You show me an immigrant from a third world country who has never seen a door before who knows how to use it just because he also possesses the physical capability to build it, if he knew how.Oh, come on. That dog was trained to do that. That's totally not the same thing, and you know it. (And, no, I never said that if you can use a door, you can build it. I don't know where you got that from. That's totally misunderstanding me.)
Shad said:When they created the people of Hylia, they simultaneously created a new capital, a city that floated in the heavens.
It IS the same thing. Until you can provide counter evidence my evidence stands. You show me an immigrant from a third world country who has never seen a door before who knows how to use it just because he also possesses the physical capability to build it, if he knew how.
Of course the dog was trained. The difference is, you cannot train a dog to BUILD a door, which is the important part of your statement. (After all, without the second half, the first half has nothing to be compared to.)
I'm not misunderstanding you. As I've just proved, you've either misunderstood yourself or said something incorrectly. Not that you're wrong, but rather that you may have typed something wrong.