quote: "I have to call Occam's razor... you're attributing things to the Triforce pieces simply to suit your theory, not to conform to evidence." -
I doubt that the triforce of power is only just to transform into something...
quote: "There was no time fast-forwarding or rewinding involved. Zelda lived out seven years as a Sheikah, for example. However, it was also stated that Link wasn't "take[n] out of place and replace[d]", but was sealed for seven years." -
You just denied that there is no fast forwarding and rewinding but yet you say he was sealed. How else could he time travel then. Of course he was in the palace for 7 years, I already said that. You just said he wasn't taken out of place and replaced in the future. So that only means fast forwarding and rewinding. You even said look at the characters. I'm looking. And all the kid characters did what, are 'adult' along with Link. It's only 7 years so you wouldn't even see change in the ppl that were grown to begin with. So you just denied only to still agree
And Shiek is just an astral projection from zelda. Much like phantom ganon/agahnim is an astral projection from Ganon. Zelda is imprisoned in a crystal the whole time in the future of OoT. Sitting beside Ganon the whole time in the future of OoT.
quote: "Yes, she would know everything after Link tells her." -
As I say again, she still already knew to begin with. That is why she sent Link on the whole quest.
quote: "What matters is that she doesn't send Link off to gather the stones and open the DoT just for Ganon to take the ToX."
She sends Link on the quest in order for Link to gain the power to defeat Ganon.
quote: "Saria, Ruto, Darunia, etc. weren't awakened on the CT. The Sages in TP are different ones. I'll leave the debate over whether they were awakened before or after OoT out of this."
Then they (the white sages) would have been in the place of them (OoT sages) in OoT then instead of the OoT sages being "awakened". Awakened or not, whether they knew it or not, they still were sages. To me, Saria acted as if she knew all along that she was a sage. The all knowing Deku Tree would have told her.
Quote: "That's out of context. He's using that line to introduce what he's going to explain about TP. "In Ocarina of Time, Link flew seven years in time, he beat Ganon and went back to being a kid, remember? Twilight Princess takes place in the world of Ocarina of Time, a hundred and something years after the peace returned to kid Link's time." 'Adult Timeline' is a fan designation for one of the "parallel" continuities."
That is not out of context. I copied and pasted exact.
quote: "I don't think so. Agahnim was killed in LttP." -
But the wizard wasn't killed in Zelda II. That's why I had asked.
quote: "Question: Where does The Wind Walker fit into the overall Zelda series timeline?
Eiji Aonuma: You can think of this game as taking place over a hundred years after Ocarina of Time." -
Along with his other quote of "Link went back to the present in Oot, remember?"
, that means that OoT ended in the present. So that would actually mean that WW takes place 100 years after the final scene in OoT. Which is Link reporting back to Zelda. NOT when Link beat Ganon in the future. Which also means that the director contradicted himself. If the parallel saying was said before this saying, more than likely it was a retcon/fix from his past sayings (the director guy).
Truthfully, so far, I'm getting this:
SS > OoT > MM > TP > WW > PH > ST
MC > FS > FSA > OoX > ALTTP > LA > LoZ > AoL
- It depicts the origin of the Master Sword and touch upon why Ganondorf appeared in Ocarina of Time. Curse of the Ganon lineage begins.
Ocarina of Time
- Ganon befriends the empire in order to overthrow it. He succeeds. Link defeats him 7 years in future with the aid of rapid time progression.
Zelda warps Link to the Temple of Time and with her playing Zelda's Lullaby, allowed Link to travel to a point in time before Ganon sweet talks
the king when Link placed the master sword back in it's pedestal.
- After defeating a future ganon, Link goes back to the present chit-chat with Zelda about how to handle Ganon's deception. Months later, Link
Searches for Navi for unknown reasons. Skull kid steals Links things and Epona while in Lost Woods and morphs him into a scrub. Link chases Skull kid
into alternate dimension created by the mask. Wandering Mask Collector assists and gives info to avenge his stolen things from the Skull kid as well in
order for the both of them to get back to their own dimension (Hyrule).
- Over a century, after Link and Zelda thwart Ganon's attempts of a takeover through the convo seen at the end of OoT, Ganon is executed and
reborn with the power of his innate triforce of power. New Link must stop his tyranny again.
- 100 years after Link and Zelda thwart Ganon's attempts of a takeover through the convo seen at the end of OoT. The intro even says "weilding
the master's sword, he sealed ganon away and gave light to the land. This boy (not adult) who traveled through time to save the land was also known
as the hero of time. (pic shows kid Link of OoT riding epona like he was in MM)". This MUST have happened 1 generation after TP. By them saying Link's
legend was told generations after generations before WW starts, means there is lots of time where TP can happen in between. And since TP happens 100
years after OoT, this must shortly come right after TP. And I say at least 1 generation for that fact that it says this happens 100 years after OoT, so to
closely match that, is why I say it. A generation is about 20-25 years which can still be rounded up to the nearest earliest hundred since it is not over 50.
- Happens a year after WW.
- Happens at least a 100 years after PH.
- Touches on how the lineage of Link started to sport the headgear. In the intro, the hero before the generation of MC, did not sport any headgear either. Can
not be included in the above timeline because in SS, the hero has his headgear. And since the intro shows a previous generation without headgear as well,
this has to come first somewhere. It only makes sense that it takes it's own form as a rehash or Ultimate series of the IP.
- Four Swords was stated by Eiji Aonuma in 2004 to be the "oldest tale" in the Legend of Zelda series. However, this has become a minority view among
theorists, due to Four Swords Adventures appearing to contain the same Link as a direct sequel to Four Swords. As Four Swords Adventures is almost
universally believed to take place around the time of A Link to the Past (generally as a prequel), this would mean that Four Swords does not occur before
Ocarina of Time.
Four Swords Adventures
- The game shows how Ganondorf gains his Trident and turn permanently into the pig beast, Ganon. The other timeline, he already has a trident
even though his back story is similar to OoT. It can be said that certain aspects don't match up to the other timeline and/or legends get
altered as they pass down the line.
Oracle of Ages/Seasons
- only place where it makes sense to be put. doesn't make sense anywhere else. Ganon's mother is alive, in OoT she died and ascended to
heaven. (which doesn't make sense because they were evil
). There was never any talk in any game that indicates they were ressurected.
Unless the divine prank brought them back just like ganon. but nowhere in OoX says anything of this. So I put this here because it can't go
anywhere else. The true ending of the game shows Link sailing. Link wasn't in Hyrule during OoX. The boat could be merely just because he
is going back to Hyrule. Not because he's going to train. In LA, he was leaving hyrule. Not Holdrum, or whereever OoX takes place. Ganon also
has his trident. FSA establishes that he got the trident and that trident makes him have his pig form forever. He already had the trident in
the other timeline. OoX can't come after ALttP because the ending says the master sword sleeps again FOREVER. OoX has the master sword
used again, so it can't come after ALttP.
A Link to the Past
- A Link to the Past allegedly takes place generations before the original game, as heavily emphasized in the US promotional material and on the
packaging of the Japanese edition. The game's prologue references a past event, now often referred to as the Imprisoning War, during which a portal
to the Sacred Realm where the Triforce was hidden, was opened. Ganondorf eventually claimed the Triforce, but could not leave the Sacred Realm,
and evil power began to flow from the portal. Seven Wise Men were called upon to seal the portal to the Sacred Realm, and the Knights of Hyrule
were called upon to defend the wise men. The knights suffered heavy losses, but the seal was cast, and evil flowed no more. The game shows how
the seal was broken by Ganon with the help of his alter ego, Agahnim, and about Ganon's defeat and Link's possession of the whole Triforce. Link
retrieves the Master Sword from the Pedestal of Time deep in the Lost Woods in this game. At the end, it is where it is left with the game
emphasizes that it will sleep FOREVER. The games that come after this never has a master sword.
- Direct sequel to A Link to the Past as it is said that he is coming from Hyrule after defeating Ganon. In a nightmare in his dreams (when he is ship
wrecked) he encounters all of the fiends of his generations' past along with his own. Although this adventure was a dream, the wind fish is real
as it appears in the sky over Link's head as Link remains with his shattered boat in the sea. The wind fish could be assumed to have induced the
dream as an act of the gods.
Legend of Zelda
- Hyrule is introduced. Ganon steals the Triforce of Power. In order to face him, Link must assemble the Triforce of Wisdom. The game ends with Ganon's
death, allowing Link to retrieve the Triforce of Power and save Princess Zelda. The magical sword is not the master sword. It is not needed to defeat
ganon. only the silver arrows (light arrows) are.
Adventure of Link
- Direct sequel to LoZ. Same Link.
Note that one timeline sees the triforce as one's innate nature while the other sees the triforce as an item.
Sorry about the text format. It looked perfect before I pushed the button
What do ya'll think of that?