Satsy
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- Joined
- Aug 24, 2010
- Location
- Somewhere small
I know a lot of people aren't happy about the idea of the defeated timeline, since that almost doesn't seem supported by the game itself. I can understand this and have always held the theory that the specific route isn't one you play. It can't be. You don't die. But I never really gave it more thought than that until recently.
Something in OoT that other games don't seem to contain, is Link's future dream. It's not just a prophecy, it's not just a mindless nightmare. He sees a very real, ominous look into future events. While in SS Link gets a prophecy dream, in OoT he's getting a look at a very real future, and from what the Deku Tree said, these have been going on for a while for him. So he's been seeing bits and pieces from a future that hasn't happened yet. But why is that? The Deku Tree tells us about the coming evil, and that those sensitive are feeling it. Among them is Link. This isn't a common factor among Links, however, since the evil is usually knocking at his door before he gets to work. So why was this Link different? I suspect the answer might be more significant than we ever give it credit for:
He's not seeing his future, he's seeing a flash of the future that just failed.
I'll say it again, the Defeated Timeline can't be one we've played. We know that the split happens at the final battle, so clearly the Defeated Link made it that far. From a speculative aspect there's every chance that Zelda, who we know was there, played the Ocarina, that we also know was there, to try to 'restart' in a similar fashion to Majora's Mask so there was still a chance to beat him. But to go into that kind of detail is hard to prove.
Although we need to remember that, at this point, the Hero of Time hasn't happened before. Yet there's talk of how the Hero of Time 'should be', which unless I'm missing something, no previous game has given an indication of. And yet everything takes such a stance over what appear to be 'specific criteria' for the hero. He can't use the Master Sword for another 7 years. A specification under which no other MS wielding Link is held to. So unless the HoT has happened, on a timeline that didn't make it, it's hard to justify where the specific details of these criteria come from, given how vague and misunderstood the legends in these games usually fly. This does of course lead to the question of 'why' the journey OoT Link takes is often set back by 'wait not yet' moments.
A lot of important people should be sensitive to the events of this game, given how many people are affected by it. We know well that the Deku Tree, Link, and Zelda have all felt it... I suspect Ganondorf did as well.
If you think about it, if you saw recurring dreams of a future you want to stop/allow, wouldn't you do everything in your power to bring it about as soon as possible? Zelda did this by sending you after all the stones so you could protect the Triforce (such is the mind of a child). It shouldn't be a far cry that Ganondorf would do the same, rushing after the stones so he could get at his prize. We know Ganon tends to act through proxies when he gets the chance, in which point given his swearing allegiance to the King it seems almost uncharacteristic that he'd go about doing the dirty work himself. He may not have gotten the stones, but he was certainly the one to set the curses, only acting through you when he realised your mission helped him. And it did, bringing him free reign of Hyrule 7 years before the battle that decided the true outcome.
As I've said, this is a work in progress right now. I'm aware I may be missing points (both for and against), and some of the points range from circumstantial to outright speculation. But that's why I'm putting this up now. This is what I have currently, if it doesn't hold up it doesn't hold up. If it does, awesome.
So lemme know what you think! Critique away!
Something in OoT that other games don't seem to contain, is Link's future dream. It's not just a prophecy, it's not just a mindless nightmare. He sees a very real, ominous look into future events. While in SS Link gets a prophecy dream, in OoT he's getting a look at a very real future, and from what the Deku Tree said, these have been going on for a while for him. So he's been seeing bits and pieces from a future that hasn't happened yet. But why is that? The Deku Tree tells us about the coming evil, and that those sensitive are feeling it. Among them is Link. This isn't a common factor among Links, however, since the evil is usually knocking at his door before he gets to work. So why was this Link different? I suspect the answer might be more significant than we ever give it credit for:
He's not seeing his future, he's seeing a flash of the future that just failed.
I'll say it again, the Defeated Timeline can't be one we've played. We know that the split happens at the final battle, so clearly the Defeated Link made it that far. From a speculative aspect there's every chance that Zelda, who we know was there, played the Ocarina, that we also know was there, to try to 'restart' in a similar fashion to Majora's Mask so there was still a chance to beat him. But to go into that kind of detail is hard to prove.
Although we need to remember that, at this point, the Hero of Time hasn't happened before. Yet there's talk of how the Hero of Time 'should be', which unless I'm missing something, no previous game has given an indication of. And yet everything takes such a stance over what appear to be 'specific criteria' for the hero. He can't use the Master Sword for another 7 years. A specification under which no other MS wielding Link is held to. So unless the HoT has happened, on a timeline that didn't make it, it's hard to justify where the specific details of these criteria come from, given how vague and misunderstood the legends in these games usually fly. This does of course lead to the question of 'why' the journey OoT Link takes is often set back by 'wait not yet' moments.
A lot of important people should be sensitive to the events of this game, given how many people are affected by it. We know well that the Deku Tree, Link, and Zelda have all felt it... I suspect Ganondorf did as well.
If you think about it, if you saw recurring dreams of a future you want to stop/allow, wouldn't you do everything in your power to bring it about as soon as possible? Zelda did this by sending you after all the stones so you could protect the Triforce (such is the mind of a child). It shouldn't be a far cry that Ganondorf would do the same, rushing after the stones so he could get at his prize. We know Ganon tends to act through proxies when he gets the chance, in which point given his swearing allegiance to the King it seems almost uncharacteristic that he'd go about doing the dirty work himself. He may not have gotten the stones, but he was certainly the one to set the curses, only acting through you when he realised your mission helped him. And it did, bringing him free reign of Hyrule 7 years before the battle that decided the true outcome.
As I've said, this is a work in progress right now. I'm aware I may be missing points (both for and against), and some of the points range from circumstantial to outright speculation. But that's why I'm putting this up now. This is what I have currently, if it doesn't hold up it doesn't hold up. If it does, awesome.
So lemme know what you think! Critique away!