Oh alright, that's some speculation.
The fact noone claimed the second kill is a bit weird too, makes me wonder if SMS is a threat and just didn't give the full truth in-thread
I've entertained the thought that it was my first target, but that would mean multiple redirections.
It can't be the second, as the required timing wasn't fullfilled.
Can you elaborate a bit on Numbers and Moe?
Sure. 15377 is mostly three things.
The stances are backed by reasoning, and such reasoning is transparent in thread. Not much to explain here other than it's a towny-looking approach to the game, even if contradictory or intentionally contrarian sometimes. There's also the constant, inquisitive questioning of others - kinda like Jinjo - which shows them being on top of the game and trying to advance it.
Voting record looks fine. Mikey was a good pick D1 considering what we knew, and the two "left field votes" as they call these shows someone who's not afraid to stick out. Granted I don't know their range but it looks like the opposite of a cautious wolf.
And this variant of Vote Redirection is a power that'd be weird to give to meanies; if passive it could lead to a really dumb lucky strikes for town, while the active variant is normally more limited. Considering the amount of times it has happened, that'd be OP if mafia. There're also signs of that not being the specific config used in the setup.
On Mikey, understanding the gambit and how it makes sense design-wise is a big one. It just tracks with info I have, and that you seem to have too.
You all also have drilled in my head the "Mikey never busses" point, which basically means he'd be giving up a long-standing meta just for this game. Possible, yes, likely, I dunno.
There's also a verifiable power and talking a bit more with him. Yes, we have a chat since D2 (3) started. It hasn't been easy nor do we agree on everything - far from that, we were both weary of each other at the start - but at some point we trusted each other enough to start sharing details. And at that point I saw a shred of towniness.
That's partly what I meant about not being able to elaborate to Johnny before. Unless I completely distrust someone I consider sharing details on someone's else role a bit rude - kinda like pointing at crumbs out loud - but Mikey recently said go for it so here we are.
To be clear, there're reasons to distrust both. I don't consider them locked by any means.
If mafia need to off Ex as a threat, lynching him today will literally be doing mafs job for them. Town is better suited doing everything they can to lynch scum here and now, especially since we don't know how many threats they have left to eliminate.
LyLo is different, yes, but no matter how many threats remain, parity is a wolf win. What's worse, meanies having M-2 with Ex alive is a win for them too. What Ex said.
I do agree that pushing strong wolf-reads is the optimal play, though.
It's my fundamental belief, however, that Reki's kill is via wounding, as that ability leads to death through multiple uses (which also jives with the cop claim as well).
Can confirm this is not how that works.
Dunno what to make of your vote too, btw, need to think it a bit more.
