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Creation of the Master Sword?

Ganondork

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It's called the Goddess sword. That heavily implies that the Goddess, Hylia, created it. I'm pretty sure she used it to fight the Demon Horde in the prologue of Skyward Sword. From there, Link forged the True Master Sword using the three flames left behind by Din, Farore, and Nayru. That's the creation of the Master Sword in a nutshell, really.
 

Justac00lguy

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Well we know Link powered up the original Goddesses sword....however it is also stated that the Goddesses sword was extremely powerful itself!

It it possibale that during the war with Demise Hylia's sword....(goddesses sword) was heavily damged hence why Link has to forge it throughout the game! If this is right then it is possiable that the original Goddesses Sword was creted by the original sages or Hylia herself!
 

ihateghirahim

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All this over a sword.

Sages creating the Goddess sword is retcon at best. Nintendo is not exactly known for consistency. Is it possible that the Sword found in Ocarina of Time is a different sword than the one found in SS. The other one could have been lost and the new one created in the Temple of Time to replace it. It's a stretch, but it would satisfy the timelines. After all the Master Sword in OoT is noticeably different from the one in SS. SS has a flat side and a Triforce added.
 

felipe970421

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Sages creating the Goddess sword is retcon at best. Nintendo is not exactly known for consistency. Is it possible that the Sword found in Ocarina of Time is a different sword than the one found in SS. The other one could have been lost and the new one created in the Temple of Time to replace it. It's a stretch, but it would satisfy the timelines. After all the Master Sword in OoT is noticeably different from the one in SS. SS has a flat side and a Triforce added.

That makes no sense, one does not simply make a new blade of evil's bane, and the looks of the sword are no evidence, just look at the WW one

And no, sages creating it was stated in AlttP, the first apparition of the MS, so not a retcon

It's not over "a sword", it's about the blade of evil's bane, forged by the great hero (SS Link) and used to defeat evil countless times, its THE master sword
 
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The Master Sword was created by Link in Skyward Sword, that is set in Zelda canon. Timeline wise, the next game we see the sword is in Ocarina of Time which is thousands of years after. Think back to some of our real legends from a couple thousand years ago. Do we really know the details? How about Heracles and his supposed trials. How much has legend altered that story? What about Robin Hood, which is a much newer legend. We know very little, the rest is all stories and legends. The origin of the Master Sword has been obscured in time. Much like how the identity of the sages have been obscured between the time of OoT and Link to the Past. Though, only two people knew who the sages were in that game.
 
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Nintendo have been very sneaky with story telling in Zelda. Because it is the Legend of Zelda rather than the history of Zelda, Nintendo can pretty much get away with anything they write. The folk stories in the games are legends which are made up stories of possible historic events, which means there is no recorded evidence that prove such and such actually happened. If it actually did happen then it would be History.

If I remember correctly, in Ocarina of Time it was stated that the Master Sword was made as it was by the sages, it mentioned nothing about the Goddess, the Hero chosen by the goddess and the forging of the Goddess's Sword. Because we know that's not exactly what happened, Ocarina of Time told a Legend, not a historic event. If everything was recorded in the Zelda Universe then every game would be related through history, which would mess things up quite a bit as most Zelda games don't relate to each other. Because Nintendo doesn't plan out the story when making a Zelda game, they just make up stories within the game a.k.a Legends.
 

Woyogoyo

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If you think about it, Link didn`t create the master sword. Do you think Hylia sealed away the demons with the goddess sword?
 
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Legends can be distorted over time and separate tales of history can be fused into one. The English version of ALttP manual back story is good evidence of that. It combines the creation of Master Sword and the origins of Ganon into one story. It states that Ganondorf stole the Triforce first and was unstoppable. The people of Hyrule decided to create a blade that can overcome the power of the Triforce under Ganon's hands and restore peace to the balance, known as the Master Sword. No hero was found worthy to wield it, so the sages decided to seal Ganon away in the Dark World. In Ocarina of Time, the Master Sword is already in existence when Ganondorf made his move on the Triforce. There was also a hero who wielded the Master Sword already and he managed to defeat Ganondorf before he could take the entire Triforce. Quite contradictory when compared to the English ALttP back story.

It's quite easy to see the contradictions between each game's stories and legends. Why or how these stories are distorted is unknown. Could the ancient sages be a distorted tale of Skyward Sword Link split into 7 people? Or is it a distorted tale of the Master Sword's original form, the Goddess Sword? Did the sages reforge the blade and thus somewhat responsible for the creation? Or did they reforge the Goddess Sword with the Prequel!Link, assuming of course the Skyward Sword manga is canon? These are the answers that may never be fully explained and I think that's the beauty of Zelda lore. It's an ancient textbook in shambles and requires a little research and puzzle-solving to find legitimate answers to all our questions.
 

Locke

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Legends can be distorted over time and separate tales of history can be fused into one. The English version of ALttP manual back story is good evidence of that. It combines the creation of Master Sword and the origins of Ganon into one story. It states that Ganondorf stole the Triforce first and was unstoppable. The people of Hyrule decided to create a blade that can overcome the power of the Triforce under Ganon's hands and restore peace to the balance, known as the Master Sword. No hero was found worthy to wield it, so the sages decided to seal Ganon away in the Dark World. In Ocarina of Time, the Master Sword is already in existence when Ganondorf made his move on the Triforce. There was also a hero who wielded the Master Sword already and he managed to defeat Ganondorf before he could take the entire Triforce. Quite contradictory when compared to the English ALttP back story.
Actually that's a mistranslation. The Japanese manual states the the MS had been created earlier and the sages were looking for it along with the hero to wield it. But I get your point - there are many other contradictions.
 
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I understand that the English Manual is indeed a mistranslation and that's why I used it as an example of distorted legend and contradiction. But maybe I should have compare it to Japanese version as an example of real life distortion or just compare the general backstory of ALttP to the story of OoT instead.
 

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