BotW2 linear and gated progression

[Bowsette Plus-Ultra]

what if intended progression includes finding the bow and aiming for the glowing eyes, but a skilled player can hit the glowing eyes without the bow

I feel like my solution just be to not include bosses that require smacking them in the eye or in any other specific weak point. I'm a fan of the Dark Souls method: hit them until they fall down, with it being up to the player to judge when it is safe to smack said boss.

 

[Mikey the Moblin]

I feel like my solution just be to not include bosses that require smacking them in the eye or in any other specific weak point. I'm a fan of the Dark Souls method: hit them until they fall down, with it being up to the player to judge when it is safe to smack said boss.

so you're not a fan of the way the asylum demon is super hard until you expose its weak point by plunge attacking it or

 

[Bowsette Plus-Ultra]

so you're not a fan of the way the asylum demon is super hard until you expose its weak point by plunge attacking it or

Asylum Demon isn't super hard until you expose a weakpoint by plunging into it. It's hard at first because you don't have a weapon. You could skip the plunging attack and still easily kill it. The plunging attack in that context is meant to be an introduction to the concept of the plunging attack for use against later enemies.

 

[Mikey the Moblin]

Asylum Demon isn't super hard until you expose a weakpoint by plunging into it. It's hard at first because you don't have a weapon. You could skip the plunging attack and still easily kill it. The plunging attack in that context is meant to be an introduction to the concept of the plunging attack for use against later enemies.

as someone who died after the plunging attack attempt
nah


also what later enemies lol

 

[Bowsette Plus-Ultra]

as someone who died after the plunging attack attempt
nah


also what later enemies lol

Mostly just enemies that are on a lower platform that the player can drop onto. It can also be used against enemies like the Taurus and Capra Demon.

 

[Mikey the Moblin]

taurus demon is the only enemy I know of that's weak to plunging attacks and it's the boss RIGHT after for most people. Plunging attack doesn't come up as a weakness ever again

 

[Bowsette Plus-Ultra]

taurus demon is the only enemy I know of that's weak to plunging attacks and it's the boss RIGHT after for most people. Plunging attack doesn't come up as a weakness ever again

It's not a weakness thing, it's that plunging attacks always deal more damage than a regular attack. No one is specifically weak to it. The goal is to create situations where it's useful, and it's still plenty useful against regular enemies.

 

[Mikey the Moblin]

It's not a weakness thing, it's that plunging attacks always deal more damage than a regular attack. No one is specifically weak to it. The goal is to create situations where it's useful, and it's still plenty useful against regular enemies.

taurus and asylum demons take extra damage and have unique animations

also no it's not lol

 

[Bowsette Plus-Ultra]

taurus and asylum demons take extra damage and have unique animations

also no it's not lol

They have unique animations, but a plunging attack is strong against literally every enemy you can smack with a sword (except sucubi). Any enemy you can drop down on can be dealt extra damage with a plunging attack. I mean that I prefer bosses that don't rely on a gimmick that takes away from the fight. Big glowing eye weakpoints and whatnot.

 

[Mikey the Moblin]

They have unique animations, but a plunging attack is strong against literally every enemy you can smack with a sword (except sucubi). Any enemy you can drop down on can be dealt extra damage with a plunging attack. I mean that I prefer bosses that don't rely on a gimmick that takes away from the fight. Big glowing eye weakpoints and whatnot.

plunging attacks will do the same amount of damage to every enemy you hit with it based on armor
except those two, who are weak to it

 

[Dizzi]

They have unique animations, but a plunging attack is strong against literally every enemy you can smack with a sword (except sucubi). Any enemy you can drop down on can be dealt extra damage with a plunging attack. I mean that I prefer bosses that don't rely on a gimmick that takes away from the fight. Big glowing eye weakpoints and whatnot.

Succubus make you fall in love?!

 

[Bowsette Plus-Ultra]

plunging attacks will do the same amount of damage to every enemy you hit with it based on armor
except those two, who are weak to it

That just... is not true. Especially since enemies don't have have any sort of armor stat in Dark Souls.

I don't want to drift too off topic here. My point is just that I don't like gimmick boss fights and I've never encountered a Zelda boss with a giant glowing weakpoint that I thought was any sort of good as a boss encounter.

Succubus make you fall in love?!

I dunno. They are pretty hot.

 

[Mikey the Moblin]

That just... is not true. Especially since enemies don't have have any sort of armor stat in Dark Souls.

It is and they do lol
Part of the reason split damage weapons are so bad is because of the way enemy damage mitigation is calculated


Sif? Kalameet? Gwyn?

 

[Bowsette Plus-Ultra]

It is and they do lol
Part of the reason split damage weapons are so bad is because of the way enemy damage mitigation is calculated


Sif? Kalameet? Gwyn?

They certainly have resistances, yeah, but they do not have an armor stat.

General purpose jump attacks: yehh. Gimmick boss fights that depend on stunning a weakpoint and slashing three times with the sword: bah.

 

[Spiritual Mask Salesman]

This thread is so old. Any rumor about BotW 2 from 2020 I cannot take seriously. However the concept, on paper, isn't a bad one. I don't mind if in this game some things are gated behind progressing the story, akin to Skyrim, for example. Basically I want the free roam nature of BotW to be maintained, but also a more linear main quest in terms of plot that eventually leads to fighting Ganoncorpse.