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2020 U.S. Presidential Election Thread

the8thark

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And I'm willing to put serious money down (1 dollar?) that if you go back the last 12 years of senate/presidential elections, the winningest candidates are the most covered in media / the most recognizable moreso than any policies or ethics that may be involved. As they say, "any publicity is good publicity"
That might jsut be correct. In 2016 for the primaries and the actual election Trumphad all the coverage. Most of it the mainstream media hating on Trump. So much so that Hillary didn't get as much time on air as she would have wanted for her policies.

Any publicity is good publicity. Agreed . . . mostly.
The worst is being ignored by everyone so your name is not out there.

We might be looking at Trump vs Sanders in November.
 

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That might jsut be correct. In 2016 for the primaries and the actual election Trumphad all the coverage. Most of it the mainstream media hating on Trump. So much so that Hillary didn't get as much time on air as she would have wanted for her policies.

Any publicity is good publicity. Agreed . . . mostly.
The worst is being ignored by everyone so your name is not out there.

We might be looking at Trump vs Sanders in November.

Yeah, one of the interesting things about 2016 was just how much **** was being thrown Trumps way. He was getting ripped apart and laughed at by basically all news as I recall, even Fox + the Repub talking heads were talking about how unprofessional he was. Then suddenly he has the nomination, and now he's POTUS. Really goes to show how much just having name recognition helps get votes
 

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Really goes to show how much just having name recognition helps get votes
It's not just name recognitoon. Everyone knew who Hillary was also. Hillary just got media silence on her for periods in the election because it was all stuffed with Trump hate.

When someone has chosen to vote for someone, saying "you shouldn't vote for $#@! because he is a cancer" does nothing to getthem to vote Hillary. The better way would have been to totally ignore the Trump campaign and just blast Hillary's policies 24/7 out there. Basically making Hillary out to be a saint . . .she's not a saint obviously but it would have been a way better strategy politically.
The Democrat policy was focus 100% of Trump (with hate). A very easy narrative for Trump to counter. If it was a policy vs policy debate, I think Hillary would have won.

That sounds like a fun debate.
Lets hope the Democrats feel the same way. Not like in 2016 where it was Good Trump (Rep) vs Evil Trump (Dem).
 
Michael Bloomberg should drop out after his terrible debate performances and all the establishment Democrats unite behind Joe Biden if they want to stop Bernie Sanders. Otherwise, it seems he will be the eventual Democratic nominee. But obviously Bloomberg won't. Still, it looks like Joe Biden may win South Carolina, which will help him on Super Tuesday next week.
 
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Not happy with pete dropping out now, the boost to Biden will probably guarantee him statewide viability in CA. It's telling that he dropped out while polling higher than Warren, who's the main siphon of Bernie votes.

Do I think Biden asked him to drop out in exchange for a position in his administration? I've certainly heard more outlandish theories.
 

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As someone living in a Super Tuesday state, don't forget to vote!

It's important.
 
Democratic Delegate Count (18/50 states):

Joe Biden - 670
Bernie Sanders- 574
Elizabeth Warren - 69 (Dropped out)
Michael Bloomberg - 61 (Dropped out)
Pete Buttigieg - 26 (Dropped out)
Amy Klobuchar - 7 (Dropped out)

Biden had a big night in terms of state wins but Sanders winning California allows him to catch up in delegates.

Biden won Virginia, North Carolina, Alabama, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Tennessee, Minnesota, Massachusetts, Texas, and Maine.

Sanders won Vermont, Colorado, Utah, and California.

Michael Bloomberg won American Samoa.

Michael Bloomberg drops out, endorses Joe Biden: https://www.npr.org/2020/03/04/811873643/after-disappointing-super-tuesday-mike-bloomberg-suspends-his-campaign

Elizabeth Warren drops out: https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/03/05/politics/elizabeth-warren-drops-out/index.html
 
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Democratic Delegate Count (24/50 states):

Joe Biden - 881
Bernie Sanders - 725
Elizabeth Warren - 71 (Dropped out)
Michael Bloomberg - 61 (Dropped out)
Pete Buttigieg - 26 (Dropped out)
Amy Klobuchar - 7 (Dropped out)
Tulsi Gabbard - 2

This past Tuesday, Joe Biden won the states of Missouri, Mississippi, Michigan, Idaho, and Washington while Bernie Sanders won North Dakota.

Andrew Yang endorsed Joe Biden: https://nypost.com/2020/03/10/andrew-yang-endorses-joe-biden-for-president-on-live-tv-cites-the-math/

The Democratic Party Debate on Sunday has been moved from Phoenix, Arizona to Washington D.C. over coronavirus fears: https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/03/12/politics/cnn-univision-debate-arizona-dc/index.html

Louisiana's primary is postponed from April 4th to June 20th over coronavirus fears: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/13/louisiana-postpones-presidential-primary-due-to-coronavirus-128514
 
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Democratic Delegate Count (27/50 states):

Joe Biden - 1181
Bernie Sanders - 885

Everyone else has dropped out and isn't worth mentioning anymore.

Biden won all three primaries - in Florida, Illinois, and Arizona - this week.

Tulsi Gabbard endorsed Joe Biden: https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/18/politics/democratic-primary-bernie-sanders/index.html

Barring a major health catastrophe for Joe Biden, this race is basically over and Joe Biden will be the Democratic nominee versus President Trump in November.
 
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Well that's depressing...
Here are the remaining states: Alaska, Hawaii, Wyoming, Wisconsin, Delaware, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Kansas, Indiana, Nebraska, West Virginia, Georgia, Oregon, Connecticut, Maryland, Montana, New Jersey, New Mexico, Ohio, South Dakota, Louisiana, and Kentucky. Guam, the Virigin Islanda, and Washington D.C. will also vote.

So you can see from the list that there are a lot of more conservative states left to vote that will go to Biden. Even if Bernie wins New York and Oregon he's already in an almost 300 delegate deficit that seems impossible to make up with the remaining states.
 

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