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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    Hah, I still look back on my 42 person "Mafia Round 2" game with great fondness. Wish someone had told me how to properly moderate back then. :P
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    Very fun game. I think the ability to infinitely softclaim was a little OP with this setup, due to how difficult it would be to counter-claim because of the pair system and the very limited amount of TF2 role names. I still had a very good time with my first mafia game in over a year though. :)
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    Abridged version: There's seven of us left, and three of us (Myself, Frozen Chosen, and Jamie, who was replaced by Eren) have claimed vanilla townie. This game has a mechanic that gives each townie a counterpart. For example: kokirion and Night Owl were both alternating-day Commuters, and thus...
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    Who could possibly be my counter-part then? Do you have any ideas? How about why they've remained totally silent throughout the entirety of the day? There's no reason to be silent about a vanilla townie claim when it means we'll hit scum for sure eventually if they come out with it.
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    Vanilla townie. Nothing special with no night abilities.
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    The thing that's happend is this: I claimed vanilla townie early in the game. This game has a mechanic that every town player has a different color partner. Jamie claimed to be my partner, and I believed him because he also claimed the exact role name I have. I can't say the name due to the...
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    All I'm saying is that I'm almost positive Jamie and I are a package deal. If one is scum, the other has to be too. And we would have had to have done some wicked fake-claiming at different times and different players (before Jamie even replaced Dan) for that to happen. I do still acknowledge...
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    Before I reply to ANY of this, @A Link In Time , I honestly want to know why you've dropped so many of my points. You're not addressing my explanation of how Jamie and I are pairs due to us knowing our role names and how one of us can't be scum due to the lack of a counter-claim of Jamie's...
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    Yeah, exactly what I expected. Have you paid like, literally no attention to my posts at all? Please, re-read my replay to Frozen where I quote Jamie, isolate our remaining power-roles, and explain why his claim of the role that is the exact same as mine points to it being fake. This also acts...
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    You know, what I hate about mafia is that literally anything can be spun as scummy. kokirion pointed out a while back how this was becoming a numbers game with all of the claiming, and how bad of a spot the mafia was getting in. Viral was smart and realized that, I think. He knew he was almost...
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    I've already pointed out why I don't think this relevant due to the context of this game. It's one thing to ask a cop to investigate you when there's no guarantee that they will immediately die (I would imagine the possibility was a great deal higher than the chances of Tristan surviving in the...
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    I seriously doubt there's any type of third party at this point. We'd know by now of the existence of a cult, and there's been no indication whatsoever that there's something akin to a Serial Killer. Frozen Chosen: Claimed VT early, and there's no real reason to doubt it. He did it solely as a...
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    Unvote Vote: Toxic
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    I'd be very surprised if neither ALIT or Toxic is mafia. I even think it's fairly likely that they're both scum. I do have one more person in mind, but they're a third resort after the other two. I'm fine with killing either one today and going for the other tomorrow.
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    Vote: A Link in Time @Tristan , assuming there's two more mafia (which I think is more likely instead of three), who do you think are the last ones? If ALIT flips as one, who's most likely the last? I have two suspects in mind after ALIT but want to hear what you have to say since you probably...
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    Well, that's not a reason for me to not vote for you. Is there anything you want to say to us that will change our minds?
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    EBWODP Sure, ask the cop to investigate you "when he gets the chance". We both know he'll be dead before he gets the chance.
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    Tristan is most likely next on the chopping block. Mafia knew he couldn't use his role tonight and went for someone else. Yeah, this rubbed me the wrong way from the get-go-a-go-go. I don't care if you've done it before, the context of this situation with our remaining players, our known...
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    Vote: Mido
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    No. Think of the most bland and vanilla name a role could have in TF2; that's me. Hope you catch my drift.
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    Shame we lost a cop. Because SMS never posted (from what I remember), it's reasonable to assume that he didn't investigate anyone night one. Whoever Crusader investigated is irrelevant now as well, sadly (willing to bet money it was me, I NEVER forget cops named Thareous). It seems likely that...
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    I don't see a reason either.
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    I mean, I already addressed why when I posted my analysis on players along with my subsequent replies to kokirion; basically she seems more like Hero to me. But the fact that you've had little to nothing to do with the game, and then you suddenly pop up at the end when you're in line to be...
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    You haven't been doing too much scum hunting today apart from the slight exchange you had with Hero. You seem to just be asking people what they think of other players; in my experience, you usually end up voting for the players you ask other people about. Again, these were just "vibes" I was...
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    Not even close. I was hoping people would catch something else entirely from it not pertaining to that part at all. I'll be keeping a close eye on this thread tomorrow though (I have the day off). I want to see what happens next before I go further with anything.
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    Look, I never flat out accused him of fake-claiming. I'm the one that made sense of the claim and pointed it out to you, on top of me absolutely never flat-out saying I think he's mafia. There's a difference between not believing someone 100% and keeping the door open to doubt, and flat-out...
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    Honestly, the signs point more towards it than against it (I did present the theory, after all). I just know how well kokirion can fake-claim; there will always be that shade of doubt there for me, regardless how unlikely. That's just how I view him as a player. A second commuter, huh? I...
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    I agree that there's at least one mafia member that's more familiar with the player base that we have here. I still don't fully believe your soft-claim (as I said in my last post, who could possibly counter-claim when there's no way to know if we were targeted by the mafia during the night? This...
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    No role has an absolute set purpose from my experience. Traditionally, a commuter is someone who can "leave" town during the night and avoid being nightkilled. The extent of a commuter's ability varies greatly, sometimes being limited to a set number shots, or perhaps in just being on odd/even...
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    Malon: I'm getting a big newbie vibe from him (this is his second game if I remember correctly), and his behavior up to this point falls in line with it. I was very curious as to why the mafia hadn't gone after a confirmed doctor yet, but I believe I have an answer - Malon doesn't have enough...
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    Compiling my list now. ;)
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    yikes, didn't know day ended like right now. sorry guys.
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    This is interesting because it's adding to this weird play-style that I've not seen from you, but yet you're pounding away with during this game. This is exactly what you did to Pendio on day one amidst all of the Storm drama, and quite frankly, a red flag went off in my head immediately. I know...
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    Yeah, I'm there with you. Johnny is doing the exact same thing that I pointed out earlier with his second reply there: I can't remember having played with you before (again, last game was late 2014), but you're coming off as more desperate than ever right now, ferociously trying to get...
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    Johnny seems to be a little bit more defensive than what I would expect in the way that he seems to be trying to push some suspicion on to each of his accusers. I understand a gut-based reactionary vote on Frozen Chosen (many tend to do that), but it strikes me as very odd that he would do the...
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    Hmm, "reputation" is a relative term. If we're talking about reputation since the beginning of 2015, I honestly have clue who would have one. From what I understand, this is the first game back for quite a few people in a long time, including Pendio, Koko, and myself (my last game was late...
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    Interesting that Sadia was the first mafia target..... someone who didn't post much during the first day comparatively speaking, as well as being someone who hasn't been in a game for a while from what I understand. I do know why Sadia would be a target regardless of her activity; she's...
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    Honestly, the proper way to deal with this situation to begin with was to just acknowledge that you made a mistake and try to learn from that. Anytime you try something new, there are going to be rough spots as you learn it. This community is happy to help new players out. But you're just going...
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    I don't think he's scum at this point because there's no way in hell his scumbuds would let him do something this stupid and act this way. If their tactic was to bait out the doctor on day one, then congratulations because it worked perfectly, but with what I know about the players on this site...
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    But just look at terrible the scenario that the town is in right now, right off the bat: 1.)Two doctor claims on day one, with the exact same role. I don't think there could possibly be two "red medics" unless I'm misunderstanding the game setup. This means one of you is lying, and probably...
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    Oh jesus christ. Time to play "who's the real doctor on day one? lololololololololololol".
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    Oh boy, I was so excited to log on to the old ZD forums this morning. I can catch up on my Flappy Cheep Cheep forum game, talk about some Darksiders, increase my horrible corruption, participate in some day-one mafia RVS ****posting.... What the actual ****. I can think of no scenario on day...
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    Vote: Kokirion Oh how I've missed our mafia games together, friend. :)
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