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  1. Soul

    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    Right, I completely forgot about that softclaim. I'm fine with lynching Mido too. Unvote Vote: Mido Sorry for flipping around so much guys.
  2. Soul

    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    You'd think I'd throw the Godfather under the bus to save Tristan, who you presume town? Because I was the one who started the bandwagon that got Doc lynched. Even if Tristan and I were scumbuds, why would I sacrifice the Godfather, arguably the most powerful mafia role, to save him?
  3. Soul

    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    Since Doc already flipped Godfather, it'd have to be another investigation immune role. Don't think they've got another one, but it's possible? I think Frozen Chosen is town, but I can certainly see where you're coming from.
  4. Soul

    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    Call it a hunch? Both of you are equally suspicious to me to be honest.
  5. Soul

    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    Since activity has unfortunately slowed down to a crawl here, I'll go ahead and Vote: Night Owl.
  6. Soul

    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    You've got a point. Two other viable candidates would be Night Owl and Mido in my eyes, who are both being replaced. Since I could imagine Deku is running out of replacements at this point, I'd be alright with a lynch of one of them to save him some trouble. Thoughts? Unvote
  7. Soul

    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    There's 14 players alive, only three of them scum, and no third party. Furthermore, our list of suspects is rather small. I say we go ahead with a lynch. I believe the chance of Viral Maze being scum is rather high, and if he's not, that's unfortunate, but not a mislynch that'll cost us the game.
  8. Soul

    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    I disagree. Deku might find a replacement, who might contribute, especially if Toxic is right.
  9. Soul

    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    Gotcha.
  10. Soul

    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    Very good point, I forgot about the Godfather's investigation immunity. In that case, I'd be inclined to go along with a Viral Maze lynch. I think the chance he's scum is pretty high, seeing as we don't exactly have that many suspects left. Vote: Viral Maze This vote is not final. If someone...
  11. Soul

    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    I did some digging through Viral Maze's posts, and noticed he's gone after Doc quite a few times: He also threw out an FoS earlier, but I forgot to quote that. Seeing as Doc was to my knowledge not suspected by anyone else at the times these posts were made, I don't think it was bussing...
  12. Soul

    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    Welcome back man! Sorry for mislynching you earlier. ;)
  13. Soul

    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    That's too bad. I hope you didn't take my aggressiveness toward you in the early game personally. ;) See you next time!
  14. Soul

    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    Don't you think we can find a better target to lynch though? Remember that we've got two Vigilantes still alive, who can easily take care of her, freeing us up to find a more suitable candidate. Zelda15 seems like a complete policy lynch at this point, and seeing as it's still this early in the...
  15. Soul

    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    According to Viral Maze, it's to put pressure on her to do something, which is fair. I don't think he planned to really lynch her. Malon chipping in again without saying anything is weird, and if it wasn't for the fact that no one counterclaimed him, he'd be on my scum list by now for exactly...
  16. Soul

    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    Gotcha. Unless two people counterclaim, you're on my town list. That leaves a scum pool of the following people: Toxic_Snowman A Link in Time Viral Maze Mido Night Owl Zelda15 HeroOfTime I'm not suspicious of Tristan, and while I myself am not proven town, for obvious reasons I'm not...
  17. Soul

    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    I see your point. I personally think a Jack of All Trades is unlikely, because we haven't had any night actions so far that can't be explained by one of the other confirmed or semi-confirmed roles. It's true that the possibility of the Soldier being a powerrole should be considered though, even...
  18. Soul

    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    I think either Scout, Pyro or Soldier are not in the game. Doc unintentionally left us a hint with his dying message, saying that he "knows his scumbuds can pull through". Since every town role is doubled, that can only mean that there's four scum in total, because it wouldn't add up otherwise...
  19. Soul

    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    That a soft claim?
  20. Soul

    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    Great idea @kokirion, I fully agree. One interesting thing about the night scene is that there seems to have been a successful doctor save, leaving the mafia, once again, without a nightkill. Losing one of our Cops is unfortunate however. :( Also sad for Crusader, who didn't really get to play...
  21. Soul

    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    Never said you were, but you didn't seem to understand what I was hinting at, so I explained. Sorry if it came over the wrong way again.
  22. Soul

    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    Alright, spelling it out for you it is: It is very unlikely that Tristan could have made those posts if he was scum. Town roles outside of Vanilla Townie get a role PM that assigns them a colour and a restriction. VTs get the colour too, but not the restriction. Scum doesn't get either. Do you...
  23. Soul

    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    Do you honestly want me to spell it out for you? Think about what the setup is like, and read the posts I quoted. It'll make sense why I didn't want to get into it.
  24. Soul

    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    Fair point. If he lives through today, we can take a look at him tomorrow, along with Vergo and, well, you I suppose. Though as I said, the lack of anyone counter claiming leaves me the least suspicious of you.
  25. Soul

    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    Possible yeah, but how likely is it? I think not very much so. Do you have any other arguments about why you think Tristan is scum?
  26. Soul

    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    Alright guys, I didn't want to bring this up, but I dug up two quotes from Tristan from early on Day One: He had information about the colour system early in the game that he likely couldn't have had if he was scum. Couple that with a playstyle that mimics the one he had as Innocent Child in...
  27. Soul

    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    @Malon So you'd rather just lynch someone when we could extend the day and possibly find a more suitable target? I'm neutral on Tristan to be honest. Nothing he did was particularly out of the ordinary for me. At least he's been active though. If we're doing a policy lynch, we might aswell lynch...
  28. Soul

    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    *edit* Or there was only a single vote on me, until Malon ninja'd me right as I hit the post button. :P @Malon do you suspect Tristan? Why the sudden vote without explanation? Just because kokirion brought up the idea?
  29. Soul

    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    The day ends in five hours, and so far there's only a single vote on me. Since the others seem reluctant to lynch me, seeing as no one else has voted for me besides Jamie, and I think it would be unfair to quick lynch someone who might not even be able to respond in time, I will Vote: Extension...
  30. Soul

    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    Nah, don't worry about. This case is different because a Commuter isn't exactly an important role, but if Vergo was indeed hinting at being a Commuter, he can counterclaim, which is allowed even if someone roleclaimed on the same day, and thereby expose scum.
  31. Soul

    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    I see. I'm still waiting for him to clarify that.
  32. Soul

    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    Wait, three? I only counted two: koki and NightOwl. Who's the third?
  33. Soul

    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    What do you mean by the bolded part?
  34. Soul

    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    Got anyone in mind?
  35. Soul

    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    The only ones who are pretty much confirmed town is Malon, unless he's playing a ridiculous ruse, and kokirion, unless there's a counterclaim or some possibility no one else has thought of. I can't prove my alignment of course. I don't remember doing anything that could be construed as...
  36. Soul

    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    I just can't see the night scene working with a doctor. Deku would have written it differently.
  37. Soul

    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    What changed your mind?
  38. Soul

    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    Is that suspicion of yours based solely on the statistics thing I posted on Day One, or is there something else you want me to answer?
  39. Soul

    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    There is something else I caught about your post, but I don't know wether you'd want me to make that public. Do you have anything to say about my reasoning about why koki's claim seems legit?
  40. Soul

    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    goddamn ****ing quote tags, every single time. D:
  41. Soul

    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

  42. Soul

    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    I've been wary of him all game, because I've heard about how good he is. In this case I can't think of any way he's scum who's fake claiming though. Tristan brought up the Hider, which is of course another possibility, but also a Town role, so it doesn't change much. If you can't bring up any...
  43. Soul

    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    @Tristan did you quote my post simply to say you agree with me, or did you accidentally hit the Post button too early? :P
  44. Soul

    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    I thought the same, but how do you explain the night scene then? I don't think it was a doctor, because the way the scene is written just doesn't work with one, and Deku seems to take great care in writing his scenes properly. If you're entertaining the possibility of there not being a Commuter...
  45. Soul

    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    It's okay, sorry if I overreacted. Thanks for clarifying though!
  46. Soul

    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    Were we 100% sure it was a townie? Look, the mislynches on days two and three were examples of how the game is likely to go. I never even used that statistic as reasoning for lynching after Day One. Sorry if I came over rude. I'm just taken aback by your accusations, which to me come totally...
  47. Soul

    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    That "especially" in the post above should be an "additionally".
  48. Soul

    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    Well, duh, of course lynching scum is better than lynching a townie. Do you think I'm an idiot? All I said is that lynching someone on Day One, which gives us a chance to hit scum, is better than not lynching someone on Day One, especially because even if we hit a townie, the chance of hitting...
  49. Soul

    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    Wow, I did not see that one coming. Your argument is ridiculous though. What I stated is strictly logical (do the math yourself), especially the part about us having one less possible mislynch before the mafia wins. How does pointing this out make me scum exactly? I've explained at lengths...
  50. Soul

    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    Still, I'd like to know what you hoped to achieve with this @kokirion. Can you clarify? You don't need to confirm or deny wether Commuter really is your role if you don't want to, but I'd like to hear about your motivations for this play. Did you really think you'd find scum that way?
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