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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    @Mido Y U kill me?! D: Anyway GG! It was fun to be in this game even though it didn't last too long for me. ^^
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    Yes. ^^ ((Sorry for not only night posting, but for dead posting as well! :O I'm only trying to help...!))
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    Oh noooo! Aw well. Good luck Town! You can do this! ;)
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    I do not have any other suspicions that are really strong. My previous suspicion on Toxic Snowman is a lot smaller now after having given it some more thought. And of course I am a bit wary of FC, however, I am of the belief that trusting him for now will be worth it. Of course we will see after...
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    You are pointing out a fact that you cannot prove. Because of this it becomes impossible for anyone but you and FC to know the truth with 100% certainty. Everyone else can only do their best.
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    After the recent events I am feeling even more confident in my vote on Johnny. His counter claim as the Blue VT sounded desperate and like a last resort to survive. As I have pointed out before, there was never any reason for FC, as Mafia, to act the way he has been acting. Sure, he seemed very...
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    The same thought crossed my mind a while ago actually, however, the Lyncher role is incredibly rare. Unless I have a very good reason to suspect there is one in the game, I am not going to assume there is one. I am pretty sure I have played in more Mafia games here on ZD than any other member...
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    Personally I just really do not see a reason why FC would be lying. What would he have to gain by sharing the information that he has shared if it is all a lie? Besides, even though Mafia is indeed a game of deception, there is typically a lot more truth being spoken than there are lies. And...
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    Judging by the idea that Johnny did not know about the odd/even night stuff would logically (at least in my mind) make him either VT or Mafia. This alone is definitely not reason enough for a lynch. However, with Frozen Chosen's added info we can assume that Johnny is either Vig or Mafia. From...
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    I had the same thought when I read his post. To me it seemed very overly protective. I think there is definitely a good chance if one of them is scum, for the other to be scum too. However, I also see the possibility of Johnny being Town, and ALIT being a Mafia member who is either trying to...
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    You have not said much today. Do you have anything more to add besides this vote?
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    I have been rereading this thread in search for clues, but I have yet to find a player that I would be willing to vote for today. Given it is still only day 2 so far, we do not have an awful lot to go on. I anybody has any suggestions at all for whom to lynch today, I would very much appreciate...
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    You talk about wanting to lynch one of the three of us. You give examples as to why you think lynching the other two would be good, but you did not explain what I have done that seems scummy to you. Is there anything specific that you would like to lynch me for?
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    Should be interesting to see what you come up with. I do think it is quite possible though that both Kirion and I are Town. Of course one of us could be Mafia (or even both, hypothetically), but do not force any suspicions. There is always the chance of us just being two Townies debating. I am...
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    Just because you think that you make your own point quite clear does not mean it was clear enough. Judging your own posts like that is one thing. It is impossible to fairly judge yourself. But flat out ignoring/refusing to respond to a question is something quite different, and from my point of...
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    It is okay. When I was new to Mafia I was amongst the more quiet players too. I remember finding it difficult to know what to say or what to do even when I was with the Town. Scum hunting will come naturally to you once you get into the game more. Though of course it is always good if you at...
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    I have not gotten a very good read on Hero of Time yet. He has not been very active and the game has not been going on for too long. I gather he is rather new to Mafia though, but that is mostly it. I am a bit wary of Toxic Snowman. I would not say I am specifically suspicious of him, but the...
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    Now, I know that I was the one who originally brought forth this accusation on Johnny yesterday, however, since we now know that VTs exist in this game, I am no longer quite as inclined to lynch Johnny. Sure, more likely than not, he is either a VT, a third party role, or Mafia, so lynching him...
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    Yesterday you voted for me out of suspicion. Today you do not see me as likely to be scum? I would like to know what caused you to change your mind. I agree completely with this. I am not suspicious of Kirion to the point where I would like to lynch him, but I am indeed wary of him.
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    Thanks a bunch! ^^ A reason that I could see as to why the Mafia did not pick me as their night kill target is because I had pressure on me yesterday. They could have easily seen the possibility of me getting lynched if that pressure grew today. Out of curiosity, what about Kirion do you find...
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    Oh, and @DekuNut could I ask for you not to write your text in white? It makes the text pretty much invisible for me and I have to highlight it in order to even read it at all.
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    It is a shame to see Sadia leave us. Though at least we lost only one Townie tonight, and we now know that Vanilla Townies exist in this game (unless this is the work of a Recycler, but I seriously doubt that). Anyway, assuming Malon is truthful in his role claim, I am happy to see he is still...
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    @kokirion I have seen you viewing this thread quite a lot in the past days, however, even though there have been posts addressing you, you have not made any posts yourself in a while. You were very active before, so why the change of play style? You have yet to respond to me for example, but you...
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    What? Are you actually serious right now? Please do give examples of me diverting from your every question if you are going to stand by that. Honestly, to me you just seem extremely salty. And if you do find me suspicious, I would appreciate some reasoning as to why I would be scum.
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    It is just one thing that has made me a bit wary, and that is how you seemed unaware of the even/odd night power roles in this game, which lead me to suspect that your role functions differently and thus has a good chance of being a Mafia role. As I said before though, this is no serious lead or...
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    Other than you I do not have any particularly strong suspicions since it is still only day one. I suppose I have a slight gut feeling telling me that Johnny Sooshi is somehow scum, but it is so vague at this point and I have no real reasoning behind it so it is almost not even worth noting. I...
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    Mafia is a game if deception. Even the people who are the most honest, truthful and reliable IRL can be big time liars in a Mafia game. So you can really never know for sure. And you cannot use your IRL personality to justify yourself.
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    Do you think you could elaborate a little more on what you said here?
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    Anyone could potentially have a useful role. And assuming this is role madness, every role serves some kind of purpose. I just do not think that can take his role into consideration at this point. If we did we would have to do the same for any lynch candidate. Besides, I suspect him of being...
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    If it comes to this (which it very possibly might), I would like to suggest Storm even still. Sure, he is certainly not inactive, but knowing now how he plays, I think his contributions are even worse then that of a less active player.
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    Kirion, you keep bringing up my "appeal to emotion", but even after your examples I still do not quite understand what you mean by it. Is this something new about me or is it an old part of my meta? Do you think you could help me understand better? I never said that I was your only suspect or...
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    Well, the way I see it we cannot know for sure which strategy is the better one, since I think it all depends on who the Mafia is and how they play. Doing it the way Kirion suggests will certainly cover more ground. It would cause some Mafia members to wanna go after Malon, but other Mafia...
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    I say it is up to the individual Doctor. Personally I see upsides and downsides with both strategies.
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    There are plenty of other possibilities for a powerful role that Storm could be having. Vigilante, Cop, Roleblocker, Tracker, Watcher and Jack-of-all-trades are just s a few examples. I still do not think your reasoning makes any sense. It feels like you are just theorizing without any logic...
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    Any reason for that scum read? Or is it baseless? Please explain why you seem to think this. I do not see any reason as to why his role would be specifically weak. I agree strongly with this. Whoever the other Doctor is should definitely consider this tactic. Oh and one more thing, Kirion...
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    Questioning a vote does not necessarily mean you disagree with it. You might wan to find out the reason behind a vote for other reasons. For example, if someone votes without a good reason, then can easily be suspected. See, it is a scum tactic to vote for your fellow Mafia buddies in order to...
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    Day one RVS bandwagons happen to everybody. In SAO Mafia I was randomly lynched day 1, and I was the Godfather. It is not fun, but it can happen to anyone, so you just have to accept it.
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    Do not blame us. You did this to yourself. But hey, you learn best from your own mistakes, right? You will only go upwards from here.
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    Please explain what made you change your mind.
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    I am afraid you cannot role claim again even if you wanted to. The rules allow only one role claim a day, and you already waisted that.
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    It is definitely an advantage. I suppose putting extra focus on the fact that we do not want any Town member to reveal to the Mafia what colour is able to act on which nights. Let us keep that a purely Town secret for as long as we can.
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    This here is a brilliant point against Kirion's suggestion. The Mafia Roleblocker is an extremely common role to have in a Mafia group. And I also agree with many other things that Soul has had to say. To be fair I have not really played Mafia in a year. I am still kind of getting into it...
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    I'm a dude though.
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    You talking to me? Well if you are, then no. You must be getting Nightwing mixed up with Komali. ^^
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    My god, man! I have no clue who this Nightwing fellow is. I can only assume is is some bad guy you are blindly accusing me of being.
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    My scum style, huh? I did not know I had one. c: Anyway, regarding your suggestion. I think it is clever, however, to me it would require me to trust in both of the role claims in order to go with that strategy. As it stands though, I cannot trust either one of them right now seeing as they...
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    There are so many other ways of defensing yourself though. Word of advice for any potential future games you are in, no matter what role you have (especially Doctor), never take role claiming lightly. Only use it as your VERY last resort. You role claimed way too quickly this game, and it hurts...
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    Interesting. I'd love to find out for sure.
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    What?! For real...? Hmm... well, maybe lynching him would benefit us either way then. If he flips scum, then that's absolutely amazing. But if he should actually flip town, well, as you said Soul, he wasn't much use to the Town in the last game he was Doctor. So idk. I just really dislike the...
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    Team Fortress 2: Mann vs. Machine

    Claiming Doctor is seriously the very very VERY last resort you do if you have that role. Storm, if you are in fact the Doctor, I don't see any reason for you to role claim the way you did. This alone makes me legitimately suspicious of you. Because seriously, if you were the real Doctor, you're...
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