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Legacy was town MVP, yeah. I felt kind of bad to see him basically lose his mind this whole phase lol, especially with it being his first game here. Same with Minish because she actually got the scum team and put in a ton of effort. It was also super exhausting being stuck to my computer this...

thanks for the W friends gg y'all

Seriously, how am I scum here? Wolves are so obviously manipulating things and it's incredibly transparent.

Sorry Rubik, but if the only possible lynches now are me and Johnny, and everyone’s going for me and no one for him, it should be obvious what to do.

It's fine lol. If you're scum you played well. If you're town then I'd criticize your read on me tbh, but it's mafia and it happens. Does it give you any pause that everyone else is willing to lynch me and that almost no one is seriously looking at Johnny now?

I do think I did my best to scumhunt this phase, and I'm pretty confident in one of my scumteams being correct. But I'm also exasperated with this game right now and am mostly just want to know who the scum team is. For what it's worth, there's still been no one defending me except Rubik, who is...

Vote: Johnny This is the best wagon from my perspective and fits in more than one of my possible scum teams. I'm not really sure what more to say to defend myself at this point, and I'm not even sure that this is necessarily the correct move, but I feel there's a good chance of getting scum...

Isn't this possibly because his scumbuds just aren't around?

To pocket me, maybe? I suppose you'd be taking a risk, though.

If the team was you/Tristan/Ex, then it wouldn't matter if me or Johnny were to get lynched, would it?

I'm honestly starting to think this might be possible too. I was doubting Ex and Johnny being partners on the basis of Ex's ISO and his suspicion of Johnny, but then he goes and votes for me out of nowhere instead of him, right after Minish.

I'm even more confused now, as I'm not quite sure why Minish would remove her vote like that, except possibly to make herself look more town in case the lynch against me doesn't go through. Ex voting for me immediately after is also incredibly weird: I know he was considering me, but I don't see...

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I honestly don't know who to vote for at this point. Johnny is one option, and he fact that Minish doesn't seem especially eager to vote for him and is now indicating she'll go for me makes me more confident in them being a scum team, and Mikey as well has even threatened to thunderdome if he's...

It’d definitely have to be you and Mellow, at least. As for the third, I was thinking Ex, as he’s been cooperating with you and has also defended Tristan, so this seems like a viable scum team to me, even if my town lean on him is a point against it.

I could definitely imagine this, although it's probably less pertinent given that it's MYLO, as scum wouldn't be able to take much heat after my flip since they'd win; that's why I'm willing to believe that they'd be more bold now. If you are town, then I hope you can take the constructive...

It's true that Minish pressured me harder, but yours felt more opportunistic and somewhat less reasoned, is my main point. As for reasons I'm not a wolf, I think the fact that everyone but Rubik (who you yourself are also townreading) has expressed a willingness to lynch me is one. There'd...

It wasn't just because you liked her post, but because you explicitly said you were very confident I was scum yourself, and you did so after Minish's suspicion of me. And surely you can understand how things look from my perspective: I know I'm town, and right at MYLO, I get two people suddenly...

I don't know about a Johnny lynch, since I was actually feeling more positively about him as per my last post. That Legacy seems willing to go after him is also interesting: I could potentially see it if they're scumbuds since Legacy also has a fair amount of suspicion on him and might want to...

I'm very confident that either Legacy or Minish are scum, and they may be scum together. The only caveat is that tagging up on me like that might seem too brazen, even with both of them in a good position; although they might just be powerwolfing hard and hoping to end the game by lynching...

I’ll post more substantively when I’m off work, for the record. It’s been a bit frustrating to see this phase develop so quickly while I’ve been busy, but I’m glad the weekend is here so I can actually devote time to this.

Do either of you find it odd in the slightest that Min had no solid read of me all game until MYLO, when she’s suddently convinced I’m scum and wants to lynch me to the point of largely ignoring all other options? And that Legacy also started supporting a wagon on me just as suddenly, even after...

It might make sense flavor-wise: in the series, Geralt is a witcher, a type of professional monster hunter that tends to be somewhat of an outcast, often viewed with suspicion and disdain.

My mistake, but then that's an even broader list of people who could be scum aside from me based on your PoE. Not sure why it's necessary that I'm it here.

The remaining players are Rubik, Tristan, Ex, Johnny, Minish, Kirino, Legend, Mikey. IIRC, you're vouching for Tristan, Rubik, and Johnny. Plus you and myself, that'd leave three: Ex, Minish, and Mikey. Unless I'm missing something, since I admittedly skimmed some of your posts, just because...

Based on the fact that you're already trying to recruit people to "just trust" you and lynch me. Rush a wagon might've been better wording, though.

I think there's definitely some sort of role capable of sending messages, given that Rubik received one, and I'm highly confident that he's town. It's also likely to be a scum role (or at least is being used that way), given that the message turned out to be false and likely intended to frame...

I’ve slept through most of the phase so far and am at work now. I’ll try to post during break, but won’t really be active until I get home.

I don't necessarily hate a Libk lynch, but I'd rather not risk throwing the game today, especially with wagons shallow enough that scum can manipulate the result. If we lynch Tristan, then not only will we have the whole day tomorrow to discuss and find scum, but we can more comfortably allow a...

I don't see much of a reason to doubt Tristan's alignment claim, especially since Johnny apparently corroborated it. I suppose they could both be scum, but it'd be a really questionable play for them, to say the least. As for Tristan, I'm not convinced he isn't a killing role, and he obviously...

I don’t think I agree that scum would necessarily be more likely to avoid jumping on either wagon. Most of the playerbase was on one, so no individual would’ve received too much scrutiny simply for being among them. If anything, not being on them might made one more conspicuous. It’s certainly...

I’m don’t particularly like Libk’s vote on Chevy, looking back. Initially, he actually town read Chevy around the same time as his Rag vote, saying he liked the way he was playing. Once he saw Chevy’s vote, however, he updated his post to reverse this and instead voted for him. I think it had...

I do think it's probable that there was scum on Rag's wagon, both because of how easily it piled up and given her experience. I also think that Chevy was a safe wagon for scum to move onto after he voted for Rag (even if I understand why people wanted to lynch him), and that it's worth...

Yep. Pretty heavily town reading Rubik right now.

I don’t think Chevy is scum, and if he is, he’s an incredibly reckless and incompetent one, although I get the urge to policy lynch him after that. Libk has surprisingly come in clutch with his reads list, and even if I wanted to still vote for him, it’s clearly not happening. I think Rag is a...

There was a near tie between Rag and Libk, then the Rag wagon quickly came out ahead. Chevy instantly sheeped SMS and voted Rag with no real reasoning, and now people are suspecting him and might lynch him.

It's not something I especially like either. I would generally assume that scum would avoid instantly jumping on the end of a bandwagon that already seemed sure to win out, and I'm not really sure why he would as scum. At the same time, I'm uncomfortable giving such blatantly anti-town behavior...

Forgot to do this. Unvote Vote: Libk Not that it really matters now, since I just got ninja'd by two votes lol.

I'm not particularly suspicious of either Libk or Rag right now, but I'd probably rather go for Libk because he's been almost completely inactive and has shown little inclination to fix that. While I see the point that he's an easy mislynch, he's being targeted more for inactivity rather than...

I don't think long read lists are always necessarily indicative of town, but they do make me feel better about Tristan, and I think his reads are pretty reasonable. I'd rather not lynch him at this point, especially with players who have contributed far less. @Mafia Host @funnier6 Vote count?

I agree that Rag’s contributions have been fairly lackluster. Her latest post seems to provide a believable townie explanation for them, but I could also see the way she lost interest as reflecting scum. She’s also offering information that seems to work against her (basically confirming the...

lol I remember a previous game in which Pen basically did the exact same thing as here (barely posted D1 and flippantly shrugged it off) and ended up being town. So I’m slightly town reading him for this I guess, even if I’m not really a fan of it.

It's obvious that Ex voting Libk is largely in order to protect himself, but that's not necessarily a bad thing, since it makes sense for him to do so as town too. In general, Ex has been playing in a way that strikes me as fairly calm and reasoned, which I've come to associate with his scum...

It did seem odd that Tristan essentially meta-read Moe while pretending not to do so, although I can easily buy that it was just a bit. It’s also not completely irrational for Chevy to suggest a Moe-Tristan scum team based on that, given that it was a town read; it’s not an opinion I share, but...

If Mikey were scum, how would that affect your interpretation of Chevy's interactions with him? This post confuses me, because I'm not sure how this describes Chevy's situation, even hypothetically.

I’m used to playing games in which claiming is restricted (even if I’m unsure about banning it entirely), so I don’t view it as so much of an obstacle. Player interaction and alignment flips provide a lot to work with.

Thought this was serious at first and was just like what

I’m not too suspicious of Chevy for withdrawing his Johnny suspicion, since it strikes me as a genuine expression of insecurity or a lack of self-confidence given that he’s still relatively new to Mafia, and I think it fits with his previous play. I agree it’s a bit odd that he described it as a...

hi Vote: ExLight as per tradition