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  1. Kerest

    REAL TIMELINE

    Those are entire games not being canon. That arguement does not support the idea that parts of a single game are not. What the players know and what the Hyrulians know are not necessarily the same thing. For us, it's been a span of decades; for them, it's been tens of thousands of years...
  2. Kerest

    REAL TIMELINE

    1. The amiibo outfits match the text style of the in-game, not-amiibo BotW outfit of the same style. They are also worded in-character for the games, not out of character. Considering we never got a ruling on whether or not they are canon, the fact they provide setting details suggests they are...
  3. Kerest

    REAL TIMELINE

    If BotW is part of the Downfall timeline, those same monuments display that they don't remember a wish that happened in that very timeline and was a major influence on events to follow. Then again, there's in-game evidence that OoT is just a legend to them (the text of the amiibo outfit)...
  4. Kerest

    REAL TIMELINE

    Why would they know any details of a wish that would have happened more than ten thousand years prior?
  5. Kerest

    REAL TIMELINE

    Occam's Razor, when stated in that way, is a logical fallacy. It is almost never the simplest solution, no matter the subject being looked at. And even when stated correctly, it's wrong at least 60% of the time unless it is amended to include "of the solutions supported by evidence and repeated...
  6. Kerest

    REAL TIMELINE

    Three timelines take more work to keep track of, too. It's no coincidence that one timeline has more games than the other two.
  7. Kerest

    REAL TIMELINE

    Dealing with our timeline arguments, and the placements of games within each timeline. Including the argument as to which one BotW is part of. That's the nightmare.
  8. Kerest

    REAL TIMELINE

    Eh. For BotW, I could see Nintendo doing it just to end the nightmare that is managing the three timelines. They can always justify it using the Triforce.
  9. Kerest

    REAL TIMELINE

    The manual presents it as though he walked into the Sacred Realm, grabbed the Triforce, and made his wish on the spot. Which, given the likely span of time between OoT and ALttP, is probably what it would have looked like with how quickly he gained all three pieces. I was pointing out I...
  10. Kerest

    REAL TIMELINE

    That doesn't quite work, since Ganon in ALttP is clearly depicted as having the full Triforce, not just one part of it; you can see it in the ending animation. After Link defeats Ganon, Link ends up with the full Triforce (this ends up a plot point for ALBW). Which is one of the things that...
  11. Kerest

    REAL TIMELINE

    Eh. Demise being gone is a separate issue from if Ganon is Demise, but that's a headache argument that amounts to nothing as far as what Ganon can do. Let's agree this one is just too much of a headache to argue? Hey, you asked where I was confused about the argument in the thread :p I think...
  12. Kerest

    REAL TIMELINE

    That's how reincarnation works. It is the same person, sometimes paying for mistakes in the past, but they still have new memories and possibly a different personality. So, Ganondorf would be Demise, yet also his own person. Exactly. I'm confused as to how that placement would work. I'm...
  13. Kerest

    REAL TIMELINE

    It's incredibly possible for hatred to reincarnate, as long as hatred incarnates in the first place. It goes into the old idea of gods, where they were less divine beings and more living incarnations of primal forces or forces of society. A similar concept exists today with the Grim Reaper. All...
  14. Kerest

    REAL TIMELINE

    Huh. I need to go back and look that up in more detail, apparently. I thought it was that he would be eternally reincarnated, like Hylia and Link. And, yeah. This entire timeline discussion has me all turned around as I try to work it out. I'd rather try to straighten out the time travel in the...
  15. Kerest

    REAL TIMELINE

    Wasn't Gannondorf a demon before he became a mortal, being as he's the reincarnation of Demise?
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