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  1. BaroisLoose

    Should the Minish return in BotW2?

    I'd personally like them to return but not in Breath of the Wild's sequel, Link is too old to see them nowadays!
  2. BaroisLoose

    Spoiler Random theories

    Flute Boy is actually Gulley. As Gulley is a Sage, he could technically travel with the OoT. So he one day picked it up, tried to play a certain song which he had in mind and traveled back in time. An old man thinks it's his son and he spends his time playing that Ocarina. Being known as Flute...
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    Spoiler The timeline intended by the developers of the series?

    I can definitely understand the reasoning for FSA before OoT being wack. I just tried to still keep true to that interview while keeping Four Swords Adventures as direct sequel (which it obviously is) and also Aonuma stating that there only are "two endings" for Ocarina of Time. I also don't...
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    Spoiler The timeline intended by the developers of the series?

    Let's also not forget that the Dark Mirror from Four Swords Adventures seems to be a less rusty version of the Mirror of Twilight. It seems accurate from the size, it's origin and etc. Making it only work pre TP if that's the case. Ganondorf was only supposed to be the "protector of the desert"...
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    Spoiler The timeline intended by the developers of the series?

    That's a Timeline I too believe in, I would just put Four Swords also before Four Swords Adventures. OoT*/MM>TP>FS/FSA>ALttP/LA>it's sequels The Master Sword is forgotten by time as mentioned by one of my other replies and a descendant of MC Link would take the Four Sword to defeat the newly...
  6. BaroisLoose

    Spoiler The timeline intended by the developers of the series?

    I can see that really, I also disagree with FSA being before OoT. This was just to try and fill in the gaps for this theorized version which also uses that interview with Aonuma. I mean, him just being their protector and now suddenly being the king seems like a Twinrova thing to do if you ask...
  7. BaroisLoose

    Spoiler The timeline intended by the developers of the series?

    The Gang of Thieves reviving him is more speculation, yes. But Ganondorf in Four Swords Adventures turning to Ganon was because of the Malicious Trident of Demon Tribe! It was used by the last King of Darkness and Zelda recognized him as that King reborn because of that Trident. The Dark World...
  8. BaroisLoose

    Spoiler The timeline intended by the developers of the series?

    1. I KNOW it's obviously a Prequel to ALttP! I already mentioned that it explores a origin of Ganon/dorf. And well, the Sacred Realm. 2. In The Wind Waker we see the small shields which were very well known in the Four Swords era (Hero of Men, Minish Cap, Four Swords and Four Swords Adventures)...
  9. BaroisLoose

    Spoiler The timeline intended by the developers of the series?

    Just like NoA (while yes, the book Timeline is also in NoJ) had put the "Same Link" Timeline on a website. Again, interviews which AREN'T the infamous Miyamoto order seem more accurate for a speculative "developers placement".
  10. BaroisLoose

    Spoiler The timeline intended by the developers of the series?

    Indeed! It ties it also better to Breath of the Wild with how it'd always then be the same Ganon/dorf, who'd always return in some way and bring chaos just to rule this land!
  11. BaroisLoose

    Spoiler The timeline intended by the developers of the series?

    I already know that interview! I was just saying how it'd make more sense to name it after the Sages of the Imprisoning War (seriously, why would Mido get a town and who's Kasuto? They clearly forgot these two, and they're mostly completely different races except Rauru and Zelda who both are...
  12. BaroisLoose

    Spoiler The timeline intended by the developers of the series?

    On 1. I never said OoT wasn't a Prequel, just that it's not the Imprisoning War. 2. Remember how the Four Swords Saga was made to be an ancient tale which would be forgotten by the time OoT takes place in? Seems like that's one of the reasons. 3. Putting the Timeline on their website does not...
  13. BaroisLoose

    Spoiler The timeline intended by the developers of the series?

    Many commonly accept the Hyrule Historia and Encyclopedia Timeline to be canon. Though, it actually seems to only be the writers interpretation! Not what the developers intended! So my question is... what's the Timeline by the Developers intention per in-game/manual facts and interviews? Zelda...
  14. BaroisLoose

    Ganon in the first game - mindless beast or a cunning prince of darkness

    Fair enough! Though the manual seems to counter this with how he reacts, plans and steals the Triforce of Power in general.
  15. BaroisLoose

    Ganon in the first game - mindless beast or a cunning prince of darkness

    Ah, thank you! Though it only says he "lost his reason long ago", not him being completely mindless at that point. It probably goes more like this: Ganondorf has lost his reason while being sealed and creates the Calamity, it loses and then comes back 10.000 years later, where it has a plan to...
  16. BaroisLoose

    Ganon in the first game - mindless beast or a cunning prince of darkness

    Where do you please hear him shriek when the Castle rises in the teaser of BotW2? Do you mean the Guardian pillars raising in BotW? That ain't the same thing as those rise up because they're against Ganon. The Castle rose specifically thanks to Ganondorf's Malice Blast (in my theory), the device...
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    Ganon in the first game - mindless beast or a cunning prince of darkness

    Saying he won't get Dialogue is really a stretch, he was sealed away for 90% until he fought off the seal and triggered the earthquake with the Malice Blast. The reason why I believe it's smart is because that device on top is in my theory originally built to be against Ganondorf if he breaks...
  18. BaroisLoose

    Ganon in the first game - mindless beast or a cunning prince of darkness

    How does he seem mindless in the first look of the sequel? He seemingly uses this device on top of him to trigger the earthquake/Hyrule Castle rising and then nearly kill Link and Zelda that way! That is not a mindless person! He's the good ol' cunning Ganondorf! Not the mindless beast who only...
  19. BaroisLoose

    Ganon in the first game - mindless beast or a cunning prince of darkness

    I always assumed his resurrection fails as it well... is butchered. I always imagined that IF he was resurrected in Z1, they'd have to search for a new ritual which gives their master his "intelligence" or something like that. Hell, the backstory of aLBW states that Link sealed Ganon away! While...
  20. BaroisLoose

    Ganon in the first game - mindless beast or a cunning prince of darkness

    I personally always imagined him to take over Yuga in the phase where Yuga betrays Hilda if I'm being honest. Felt like that some Ganon got there as well (though, it seems that Yuga always wanted to betray Hilda as well) and afterwards gets sealed. (yes, I interpret that defeat as a seal). Then...
  21. BaroisLoose

    Ganon in the first game - mindless beast or a cunning prince of darkness

    Indeed, his followers tried to instantly resurrect him after he died in The Legend of Zelda. Though, if I'm being honest, he seems to have simply been in some kind-of prison tbh. I imagined him being sealed similarly to aLBW where Ganon is sealed "in darkness". It unfortunately cannot be the...
  22. BaroisLoose

    Ganon in the first game - mindless beast or a cunning prince of darkness

    Indeed, he is blinded by rage as well. Though, he did keep some parts of his intelligence presumably. He was only confirmed in the games as mindless in Oracle of Seasons and Ages. Otherwise, in all his other appearances, he mostly has intelligence to do his plans like in A Link to the Past or...
  23. BaroisLoose

    Ganon in the first game - mindless beast or a cunning prince of darkness

    Hey everyone! This is related to the Timeline yet again. (I love lore as everyone might have noticed!) This is something I wanted to talk about for a while now and it's about this part from the Book Hyrule Historia! The Demon King Ganon (Hyrule Historia - page 106) "The Demon King has been...
  24. BaroisLoose

    Spoiler The Hall of the Triforce is a gate to the Sacred Realm?

    Thank you! I actually changed my mind on how Ganon entered it as mentioned in the last thread to keep it even more accurate to the story in aLttP; -a Gang of Thieves help with their dark magic Ganon out of the barrier which was created by the Maidens -they'd do some kind-of distraction to make...
  25. BaroisLoose

    Spoiler The Hall of the Triforce is a gate to the Sacred Realm?

    Spoilers for Four Swords Adventures end-screen! And this is also for the FS>FSA>IW>ALttP Timelines! At the end of Four Swords Adventures, we see Zelda go to some unknown room where the Triforce logo is on the top. It seems to be a room related to the Triforce as Hyrule Historia apparently...
  26. BaroisLoose

    Spoiler [SPOILERS] How Ganondorf Dragmire got his Trident vs how Ganon got the Triforce

    Indeed! I was more joking around there, but yeah I have no real better idea on how he got there tbh. I'll probably update this soon when I have a more logical idea EDIT; the more logical idea is simply him being freed by his followers, they'd help him escape with their black magic and they'd...
  27. BaroisLoose

    Spoiler [SPOILERS] How Ganondorf Dragmire got his Trident vs how Ganon got the Triforce

    It is kinda a stretch but I mean, it isn't the first time a sword lead to the Sacred Realm (granted it wasn't the same way but yeah), also I thought it was generally accepted that FSA is a distant precursor to alttp, not a sequel. As it had the origins of Ganon getting the Trident, the...
  28. BaroisLoose

    Spoiler [SPOILERS] How Ganondorf Dragmire got his Trident vs how Ganon got the Triforce

    Ah, true! He is indeed called Ganon already "I do not know what Ganon wished for"! Forgot that it also could've worked as "Ganon touches the Triforce"
  29. BaroisLoose

    Spoiler [SPOILERS] How Ganondorf Dragmire got his Trident vs how Ganon got the Triforce

    Hi everyone! This will be my first lore related discussion! This will be on how I believe Ganondorf ACTUALLY got his Trident In Four Swords Adventures and how the Legend might have mixed it up with how he got the Triforce! First of all,this is based on the aLttP=Child Era placement which many...
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