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:/ That's a shame. You guys have an interesting community here, and obviously some dedicated GMs.

Although I understand why it's in place, I sort of blame the flower rule here. Posting is always a risky proposition in Mafia: you give other players ammunition to use against you. Everyone wants to see others post so that the game can move forward, but no one wants to post themselves. Sort of a...

The role was 7 vote Crus@der77x This feels entirely anticlimactic somehow :P

Ah, interesting. OK, well I'm going to make my role in 20 minutes whatever may come, and then hit the hay. I'll be in front of a computer basically all day tomorrow and I'd really like to talk things out with people. Things feel a little... testy for my liking at the moment and I don't think...

Anyway, time's up for me. There were at least two votes for Gumball, Zelda13, and Mido, leaving 1. Spiritual Mask Salesman 2. Foo 3. Repentance 4. Dekunut 5. Sadia 6. Johnny Sooshi 7. Crus@der77x 8. A Link in Time 9. Musicfan 10. Ari 11. Mellow Ezlo 12. Pendio 13. Doc 14. Viral Maze 15. Frozen...

So tell me that you views changed and change your vote? I'm not unreasonable >>

"I will expect most undecided players to join me on the wagon" And I did, prior to the opposition I received. This is not me telling you how to play, it's simply a reflection of my own experience. Every other time I've seen this or similar strategies employed the wagon afterwards had momentum...

To which post are you referring?

To answer both Deku and Sooshi, the whole idea is to create a system which is *hard for scum to control* and therefore reasonably safe to participate in. I *get* the fear of being led by scum, certainly... But I honestly feel that a very good way to deal with that issue is to let random...

I told you before hand how I intend to interpret the results in order to avoid the accusation that I'll make post-hoc rationalizations. I involve an RNG to further remove my own bias from the process. I can discuss this if you'd like. I find it very strange that you see an effort to organize...

I can count, yes. This is scum hunting. I'm asking people a critical question - who will they *not* vote for - and tying their answers to actual consequences.

Your argumentative prowess astounds me.

*shrug* I'm playing this whether you participate or not. By not adding your vote, all you do is remove your own ability to control the final vote tally. 'Nother 5 hours, if anyone wants to have a say.

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Editing note: D0n't vote for yourself, obviously >> I am not going to vote for *Crusader *Pendio Because they have yet to post and are likely to die to the flower rule (Unfortunate because Pendio's initial attack on Shroom goes some way towards exonerating him). I am not going to vote for...

All right, I'm about 3 hours ahead of the schedule I gave Gumball, but I've got some free time so I might as well do this now. The 18 living players, ordered by Kokirion at the start of the day, are: 1. Spiritual Mask Salesman 2. Foo 3. Repentance 4. Dekunut 5. Sadia 6. Johnny Sooshi 7...

Well, I meant "would you join a late wagon", not "would you gather evidence". But this work too. The question is whether the observation "a player bussed" provides a measurable inferential effect on the proposition "the player is scum". This is a simple problem of Bayesian inference, and since...

Would you do it?

No worries! As I tried to detail earlier, Mafia is anti-inductive. Why should a rule like the one you're suggesting be true? Perhaps there is a natural tendency for scum to jump of the backs of wagons, but as soon this this pattern became noticeable *by you* it would necessarily be noticeable...

For the record 3 Flowers Posted Gumball Sooshi DekuNut FC Foo SMS Viral 1 or 2 Flowers Posted ALIT Doc Sadia Ezlo Musicfan No Flowers Posted Repentance Crus@der77x Mido Ari Pendio

I would lynch your hypothetical quota meeter, certainly. I doubt things will be that easy. As I've maintained, I don't have a lynch plan. We can reasonably expect more information to present itself before committing ourselves to any course of action, and so we should. But maybe I can answer the...

No, the institutional mod kill for inactives represented by the flower rules changes things considerably. It would squander tempo to lynch anyone today who would be killed by Kokirion anyway. I'll be voting for a player who would not otherwise die, and so maintaining some semblance of townie...

As hypocritical as it may sound, given my performance, I certainly agree with FC here. It is a major goal of the mafia to silence activity in the town. The closer scum can push us to effectively random performance the better their chances at victory will be, even at low numbers. Any discussion...

Well, the longer we wait on check-ins the more concerned I am about the mechanics of this vote. It seems likely, given current trends, that some number of players might die to the mandatory post rule, and it will obviously be an unnecessary sacrifice of townie tempo lynch one of these...

We saw a successful wagon yesterday with <1/4 of the total player count, in an odd player-number game no less. It stands to reason that whatever tools scum may have at their disposal, they are not behaving with any sort of coordination or this result is essentially mechanically impossible. I'm...

Yeah... I mean, competent scum in a fair game *should* win after a flood of claims amyway, but I get the point of a rule to keep things honest. I do see rare occasions where it would be overly restrictive though. *shrug*

I er on the side of caution when it comes to inferential distances.

Robin Dawes wrote: Norman R. F. Maier noted that when a group faces a problem, the natural tendency of its members is to propose possible solutions as they begin to discuss the problem. Consequently, the group interaction focuses on the merits and problems of the proposed solutions, people...

Will post flowers when I'm off mobile. My opening post day one was just a check-in, style without substance. I generally don't post early reads. Not that I don't believe in them, its just a weak part of my personal gam

Hey folks! So, again, majorly sorry for my absense last week. I've done my best to work things out with Kokirion, and make sure that things will go much better this time around. In pennance, I've put together a post full of junk that I would normally stretch out over my time with a new...

Hey People, Just wanted to sincerely apologise for my absence through the first day. There were a lot of factors involved, but they were all well within my control and I just failed to properly prioritize. I'm taking explicit steps to make sure I'm in a much better position to play through the...

Oh, I could hide 'neath the wings Of the bluebird as she sings. The six o'clock alarm would never ring.

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I'd be very interested in playing, if you'll have me.