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  1. Pinecove

    This is an Accurate Time Line Theory

    No games can come between OoT and TWW. Specifically ALttP. In the backstory of TWW, Ganon is sealed in the Sacred Realm. At the end of ALttP, he's dead. And this isn't even mentioning the state of the Triforce.
  2. Pinecove

    Timeline.

    It arguably was, during beta development, but I don't want to get into that. You obviously don't know what I'm saying, otherwise you would not have said what you just said. Ocarina of Time is NOT the actual war that occurs before ALttP. To say it is, is the most ridiculous thing a theorist...
  3. Pinecove

    Timeline.

    Eiji Aonuma: "The whole game is complete, and we're fine-tuning the balance right now." Source: http://www.zeldainformer.com/2011/06/eiji-aonuma-talks-more-about-skyward-sword-story-makes-majoras-mask-comparison.html SS is staying before OoT and TMC is not before it anymore. Deal with it...
  4. Pinecove

    Mutiple Meaning for OOT Temples

    Of coarse. Courage, Power and Wisdom are given. Everything else however is not (wind comes to mind - it's green in TWW and blue in PH.)
  5. Pinecove

    The Answer to Our Problems...

    Sorry but you're wrong. The purpose of Ganondorf gathering Zelda, Link and himself atop his tower in OoT was so he could do what he eventually succeeded in doing in TWW: getting the Triforce pieces out of Link and Zelda, so he could get a full wish on the Triforce. As for the image above: Very...
  6. Pinecove

    Spoiler Would Termina Really Be Non-existant in the Future?

    My personal theory on Termina: ......../-------Hyrule---- Hyrule .......\-------Hyrule---- ---------Termina------ In other words, I believe time split in Hyrule, but not Termina. This could also explain the legend of the fairy that we see in TWW. Although that could just be an Easter...
  7. Pinecove

    Mutiple Meaning for OOT Temples

    Eh, it's a theory I can't say isn't interesting, but it doesn't work. For example: In OoT we are told that Din cultivated the earth. In TWW, the earth Temple is accessed by a Medli, one of the Ruto who's people held Din's Pearl. All of this would suggest that Din is the Earth Goddess. But in...
  8. Pinecove

    The Many Sequals to OoT; ALttP in the Timeline

    Because the most recent indication given to us by the developers (2007) is that OoT is still (part of) the seal war. Also the Sleeping Zelda story was never retconned - it was "founder" not "first."
  9. Pinecove

    The Many Sequals to OoT; ALttP in the Timeline

    I know that. But in ALttP (or rather the re-release of it for the GBA) we see the Four Sword inside the Sacred Realm. Obviously the seal war (or one of the events merged into the seal war legend - but still the battle that occured before ALttP) occurs between FSA and ALttP. So the way I see it...
  10. Pinecove

    The Many Sequals to OoT; ALttP in the Timeline

    I'll go through the laydown of ALttP and it's timeline placements. In 1991 it was a prequel to LoZ: ALttP-LoZ/AoL In 1998 it was the sequel to OoT: OoT-AlttP/LA-LoZ/AoL In 2002, when TWW was released, it had no spot on the timeline: OoT-TWW \MM AlttP/LA-LoZ/AoL??? In 2004, FSA was released...
  11. Pinecove

    Spoiler Common Theory Breakdown: One or More Ganons?

    @Duck Noises - Just in case you missed it: http://zeldadungeon.net/forum/showthread.php?12544-The-Multiple-Deaths-of-Ganondorf!&p=283253&viewfull=1#post283253
  12. Pinecove

    Spoiler Common Theory Breakdown: One or More Ganons?

    Um...I think you just misinterpreted what I'm saying. Look: This tells us the Gerudo saw Ganondorf grow up from childhood. He was evil and not respected from childhood unlike Ganondorf from OoT. Also in OoT the Gerudo is said to be their king, not their guardian.
  13. Pinecove

    Spoiler Common Theory Breakdown: One or More Ganons?

    That's the thing though. The Gerudo said they saw this from Ganondorf's CHILDHOOD.
  14. Pinecove

    Spoiler Common Theory Breakdown: One or More Ganons?

    On the child timeline, no he definitely did not take over the Sacred Realm (unless the ending of OoT shows Link returning to a time after Ganon obtained the Triforce which I do not believe is possible). HOWEVER, he did invade Hyrule on the child timeline. On he WAS recognized as a great leader...
  15. Pinecove

    Spoiler Common Theory Breakdown: One or More Ganons?

    Completely wrong quote. I'm talking about this one: Why would the Gerudo doubt Ganondorf's ability to conquer the temple when he has (or almost has, once again depending on whether FSA is on the CT or AT) taken over Hyrule and the Sacred Realm? It's called I don't support unfound evidence...
  16. Pinecove

    Spoiler Common Theory Breakdown: One or More Ganons?

    First off, Ganondorf NEVER has ease finding the sacred realm in the seal war. The manual itself states that it was completely by accident that Ganondorf found the Sacred Realm. (and further, that depends on what your definition of the seal war is as the seal war isn't really one event but a...
  17. Pinecove

    Spoiler Common Theory Breakdown: One or More Ganons?

    @Duck: Shouldn't the fact that the old thread is almost a year old, constitute a new thread? Eh regardless... By the end of ALttP, Ganon has become a full demon. In Japanese mythology, Demons can be killed, but they will always come back. Their body is killed/destroyed, but their spirit is...
  18. Pinecove

    My Timeline

  19. Pinecove

    My Timeline

    To be honest, it looks fine except for LoZ/AoL. In addition to what Satsy posted, having LoZ and AoL before TWW completely screws over the progression/state of the Triforce (OoT Ganon has it, AoL it's in the great castle, TWW Ganon has it, etc.) The best place to put LoZ and AoL are after ALttP...
  20. Pinecove

    Ganon = demon?

    Not sure if this has been brought up yet, but in the original LoZ, Ganon was certainly a demon, being called a "Daimaou" (big demon king). In ALttP, Ganon is called a "Yami no maou" (demon king of darkness) and every game in which he turns into a big pig moblin monster, he is called a "maou"...
  21. Pinecove

    My MC Placement

    When asked about SS's timeline placement in relation to OoT, Aonuma did not mention TMC, FS or FSA, only citing OoT and SS. I highly doubt TMC comes before OoT, and I extremely highly doubt FSA comes before OoT given the nature of Ganondorf in those two games.
  22. Pinecove

    Spoiler Goldenblade's Zelda Timeline Theory

    The thing that Zethar II (the translator for that document) translated "hell" from is known in Japanese as a "makai." Makai are really just pieces of territory owned by demons. They can be as big as worlds (Ganon with the Sacred Realm in OoT or ALttP) or as small as towers (the great moblin in...
  23. Pinecove

    Spoiler Goldenblade's Zelda Timeline Theory

    It was in the manual. Here's the quote (first =Jap, 2nd = literal, 3rd = Noa) And here's the source: http://www.zeldalegends.net/files/text/z2translation/z2_manual_story.html
  24. Pinecove

    What is the Most Widely Accepted Timeline?

    Actually, LA was developed as a sequel to ALttP, as shown through the instruction manual, the nightmare' forms, and the BS LoZ game called "AST" or "ancient stone tablets" which references Link from AlttP being "stuck in a dream."
  25. Pinecove

    Spoiler Goldenblade's Zelda Timeline Theory

    The "Dark World" here is most likely referring to what was referred to in AoL (a world of demons - hell.) I believe there are two dark worlds in Zelda: 1. The corrupted Sacred Realm. 2. The world of demons (that's where demons like Malladus, etc. come from. I believe we see this realm in...
  26. Pinecove

    Spoiler Goldenblade's Zelda Timeline Theory

    Can you please stop replying to mny posts out of order? I already made a decently large one on this subject... FS =/= FSA. They have completely different stories, with FSA featuring Ganon at the end of it.
  27. Pinecove

    Spoiler Goldenblade's Zelda Timeline Theory

    They do not. TWW clearly stresses that the last hero to visit the land was the hero of time. Not the hero of the four sword. Besides all of that, FSA is the direct sequel to FS, and does not work IN THE SLIGHTEST before TWW, as it introduces a new Ganon. This not only screws up the entire state...
  28. Pinecove

    Spoiler Goldenblade's Zelda Timeline Theory

    I don't know why you are, but I agree with it fully. :P
  29. Pinecove

    Where Do the Portable Zelda Games Lie in the Timeline

    I...just read that. It proved nothing. At any rate, I responding to Seth and not you.
  30. Pinecove

    Spoiler Goldenblade's Zelda Timeline Theory

    Placements of TMC and FS do not work (also where is FSA?). There were no heroes who appeared after the hero of time before TWW. I would move TMC-FS/FSA to after ST. Otherwise, it works pretty well.
  31. Pinecove

    Where Do the Portable Zelda Games Lie in the Timeline

    I agree this is possible, I simply think it's easier to have OoX occur after ALttP though, simply due to the position of the Triforce. At the beginning of OoX, the Triforce resides in Hyrule castle. At the end of ALttP, the Triforce resides in Hyrule castle. At the end of AOL, the Triforce...
  32. Pinecove

    My Timline Theory

    They have been referenced by the developers several times, so I see no reason why they would not be canon. Also PH and ST are handheld titles... I like it. However could you please explain where the seal war takes place in your timeline? TMC was said to be connected to FS by the guy who...
  33. Pinecove

    Where Do the Portable Zelda Games Lie in the Timeline

    I mean after ALttP yes. How does OoX hinder a placement of LoZ after ALttP? There is nothing contradictory. Also why would the oracle games connect to LoZ if LoZ is AFTER it? Hell, they already connect to ALttP and LA...
  34. Pinecove

    Where Do the Portable Zelda Games Lie in the Timeline

    Then why bother saying that, and not actually look at the video? They were at the end of it. This is how ALttP sets up for LoZ.
  35. Pinecove

    Where Do the Portable Zelda Games Lie in the Timeline

    Also: They do. Ganon is dead, and the royal family is in possession of the Triforce. That relates to ALttP.
  36. Pinecove

    Where Do the Portable Zelda Games Lie in the Timeline

    You are completely dodging the point. IT does not matter which game takes place first. The "opening" which you are confused about is NOT the game looping back - it is the intro, asuming that the game in question is the FIRST ONE that you are playing (eg. OoA's opening sequence is the one you...
  37. Pinecove

    I Think I Finally Got the Timeline Down.

    Basically what Jarsh said, but I'll reiterate. The bolded is the only thing I see wrong here. OoS/OoS (Oox) has to take place after a title where Ganon is dead, and the Triforce is in possession of the royal family. This could be ALttP or AoL (though I think ALttP makes more sense due to the...
  38. Pinecove

    Where Do the Portable Zelda Games Lie in the Timeline

    This is the way you play the games...I really son't see what evidence I have to provide you with? Do you want my Nintendo Players guide scan? It shows OoA happening after OoS... Yes, because you have a choice of which game to play first. (Although I believe OoS is before OoA for a few subtle...
  39. Pinecove

    Where Do the Portable Zelda Games Lie in the Timeline

    Um...excuse me? You Literally play one game (OoA or OoS - depends on which you played first) after the other. That is the way the games were made. And I have no idea what you're trying to say with your second sentence.
  40. Pinecove

    Where Do the Portable Zelda Games Lie in the Timeline

    Obvious squirming is obvious. These are confirmed game facts you are dealing with. In timeline format: -Link goes to Castle -Triforce sends Link to Holodrum or Labrynna. -OoS or OoA Occurs. -Link beats Veran/Onox -Link gets sent to/travels to Holodrum/Labrynna. -OoS or OoA Occurs. -Link beats...
  41. Pinecove

    Where Do the Portable Zelda Games Lie in the Timeline

    Fair enough. You may give me negative reputation if you want to. I would rather you not call me out for things I said that were mainly fact, and then back out on my proposal to tell me what those things are. Because really that's just.... Aonuma SPECIFICALLY said that SS was the oldest tale so...
  42. Pinecove

    Where Do the Portable Zelda Games Lie in the Timeline

    Can you please give me an example of what I have said that is opinion? Otherwise I have no idea what you're talking about. I would be glad to debate you however.
  43. Pinecove

    Where Do the Portable Zelda Games Lie in the Timeline

    Well for a first, TMC definitely does NOT take place before SS. In a recent interview, Aonuma referenced SS being before OoT and nothing else. Also what exactly do you mean by "precursor to the Master Sword"? The Four Sword is an entirely different blade from the Master Sword. TMC, FS and FSA...
  44. Pinecove

    Spoiler Four Swords Adventures As the Imprisoning War

    FSA was originally developed to be the seal war, but somewhere in development, that idea was thrown away.
  45. Pinecove

    Kakariko + Zora's Domain

    If the hidden village is Kakariko from OoT, then Death mountain moved south. Which is impossible.
  46. Pinecove

    The Four Sword is Cursed?

    Vaati corrupted the Four Sword when he was sealed inside it, hence the curse. Simple as that.
  47. Pinecove

    Three Master Swords Timeline Theory (Skyward Sword is NOT the 1st Game!)

    Even better. In other words, only trust Miyamoto with the games he was involved in (this still doesn't give people an excuse to ignore the OoT-AlttP-LoZ quote as Miyamoto was heavily involved in ALL THREE of those games.)
  48. Pinecove

    Spoiler Why Must There Be a Split Time-line?

    @The OP: If that's the case, then you're not looking for the developer intended timeline, and may as well make up facts to suit your theories. But Zelda has multiple time traveling explanations. If you want an explanation as to how the linear timeline DOES NOT work, I'll provide it for...
  49. Pinecove

    Three Master Swords Timeline Theory (Skyward Sword is NOT the 1st Game!)

    That's what I said. This is wrong. There were only going to be three games. IGN just mixed stuff up. How is any of this not important? IT shows us EXTREMELY clear developer intent. And for the record, Miyamoto was talking about FS, not TWW. ST already did that for us. Nintendo told us...
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