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Yeah I'm noticing the upcoming generation is at least somewhat more mature across the board that the ones than some of the ones before it. I've never been a fan of my own generation overall and I tend to think this falls pretty in line with kids either just outright rejecting their parents...

To be honest, none of them. I enjoyed all of the Divine Beast fights and then the dungeons themselves. My issue with the game was that there wasn't enough time/content to them and that they lacked much of a structure. Like, aside from their length and the sameness with which you approach...

Honestly my advice is to stop telling yourself you're an outsider. By all means join the shoutbox to engage more, but you belong on ZD or most places honestly as much as anyone else does. The quickest way to feel alienated is to alienate yourself, and the quickest way to belong is to believe...

Interested in being a replacement if you need any down the line. =)

It was a blast. Thanks for the great game dude! =D

One thing that's way different in the community right now than how we used to play is this idea that if you don't vote you're being scummy. We used to say FoS (finger of suspicion) to indicate our main suspects. That's how we usually pressured players, not just outright voting for them. We did...

Not really. I was suspecting Libk would be my best bet and I was right. xP I might have fumbled it a bit -- I am rusty -- but for the most part I did a lot of things I would have done as town. Storma did not look scummy to me even from a townie mindset, and the hypothetical Townie Axle this...

I actually only killed you because you were the only death that would be confusing. =P I agree about the role PM thing a bit, but either way I had a ton of fun with this game. One of the better games I've played in.

It's also arguably something this game needed for the Mafia to have any shot with the sheer amount of roles the Town had. This was basically a role madness game, and those usually have very powerful Mafia. It only mattered because I played well enough to die last anyway.

The Krow-Pendio thing is one of those rare cases of a rock-solid claim. Even then it's more the circumstances than anything that confirms it rather than the claim alone though. The claim made Pendio trust him, but the reality is we all would have some reason to be wary if not for Pendio getting...

Interesting to note I guess. =P More reason to never do it. Including when I'm town, because that would just expedite townie deaths. =PPPP

Even though she's poor and so large she could see over buildings to see what's going on? =P Hmm perhaps it would have been a misplay on my part. Not denying that claims can provide useful information btw. I said I ignored them entirely in the past -- which is true -- but that was perhaps a...

I'm fully aware, but it's generally a given that the Mafia actually have more information than the town since several of the roles in the game are confirmed to them and they usually know who their allies are. The game is absolutely about playing based on a lack of information, but really that's...

Thank you. You too were good. =) *extends the handshake*

I suspected as much too. Really all I had to do on this Day was not out myself so I was thinking carefully about actions I should do. I probably would have claimed Mt. Lady/Hobo over anything else. Most of the reason I said "I was about to vote for SMS" was so it didn't appear I was hanging...

Oh yeah, definitely. This was an awesome game to come back to. =D

I don't believe you were roleblocked, no. Dunno what happened. You guys had me a little panicked when you talked about double-lynching. xP

ALTHOUGH, you did provide me with a really good out by suggesting I was Deku Krow, so I was thinking of claiming something like: "The reason I didn't trust you outright when you said the amnesia thing is because I also got Vanilla Townie, but my role PM didn't say anything about amnesia". =P So...

Everything I said about claims is actually honest: I don't use them much as town either. I also did find a name to claim. I was originally going to claim Serial Killer/Stain because I was pretty sure there wasn't one in the game, but I obviously aborted that. If you forced me to today, I was...

Rubik was making this mistake last Day and I would have corrected him if it hadn't been suicidal: At this close to LyLo, the Serial Killer is usually more friend than enemy to the town. If they're good at being a SK anyway. xP And thanks. It was an extremely close game so I extend a handshake...

*difference in my behavior if I had actually been townie

Well if you look at the death list, this game was a borderline role madness game. The town had an absurd amount of powers to help them. As someone else suggested, the Mafia would need something really powerful to balance against that, and considering you yourself had a somewhat rarer role -- and...

I also roleblocked him so I guess it could have been that too. I don't really know what happens when two roleblockers roleblock each other or if a Mafia one would have priority or anything. I assume it's the Strongman bit that made it not work on me though. I really just killed Rubik because it...

I was laughing so hard when someone -- maybe it was you Krow? -- said that they were worried with how many power roles the town had what kind of powers the Mafia have, since I have one of the strongest Mafia roles I've ever seen. xP

Hey you did it too by helping to clear me. =P The reality is that you believed SMS's claim, which I believe was true, but you relied on that knowledge too much without the full context that only the mod and maybe the Mafia have. I've absorbed all of my fellow Mafia's powers. I am a Strongman...

I just realized something: Libk has two votes so the fact that he's not getting hammered (with every active player online) must mean he's Mafia. Oops no it just means I forgot to count. Vote: Libk

After re-reading Libk's post a few times, Krow, I believe he's talking about getting lynched and SMS roleblocking the last Mafia so we have a final 3-man Day. However that kills us if SMS is scum so I don't understand the logic fully?

I understand, and that makes sense. Just to explain myself in the same way you did, and to put it as you did: I know it sounds far-fetched, but the way I usually find scum is simply reading their behavior. It's how I first played Mafia and to this day is the funnest way for me to play Mafia...

Would just like to caution: Since this is the last chance and a majority of 3 hammer would end the game, I would advise you do as I did and avoid getting two votes on a person unless you're totally certain they're the last Mafia, because that will be an auto-win for the remaining Mafia to hammer...

Hmm. I just finished reading Libk's post. I'm still not done thinking about this, but I'm leaning towards voting for you, @Spiritual Mask Salesman. I'm not going to actually vote this instant because if I'm wrong I do not want the last Mafia to be able to hammer you and win, but let's just say...

I agree with you that since the game is still going it's 3v1, but there isn't going to be another day; 4 players left, one is mafia. If we lynch a townie tonight, then a townie is nightkilled in the night and there's one mafia and one town and that's an auto Mafia win. This is LyLo. And I can...

*no one in this game acting scummier than Rubik, I mean

Then allow me to rephrase my question: Why are you so certain I'm the last Mafioso? Is that what's hanging you up? I'm town. ...now does that improve anything or convince you in any way? I believe I know the answer and hopefully you can see why I didn't bother saying it before. =P Everyone's...

Why are you so convinced I'm the godfather SMS?

What are you talking about? You didn't count my last vote. =P Unvote Vote: HeroOfTime

Nevermind I figured out what was going on. HeroOfTime would be my second pick for scum after Rubik, but I'll willing to do it first. Bothered no one else is looking at Rubik right now though but it is what it is I guess. He'd be the safer lynch; not terribly likely the ENTIRE Mafia is hiding...

To answer the claim questions, there's a small chance I'll claim if absolutely necessary -- as I said I did it once before -- but I'm extremely against doing it not just because it's super misleading but also because I don't like what it does to games. As I have said, claims are usually either...

You missed my vote against Rubik on Page 34. =P Either way though I might change my vote depending on if I can figure out what you guys are doing.

The significance of it is in determining if there even is a Serial Killer, and whether or not it's you considering one of the kills the first night was someone who suspected who you're replacing. This is either another case of missing the point, or of deflecting. I'm wondering why you are so...

Wait what's going on? I didn't really understand the discussion over the last page or two. We're double lynching?

There have only ever been two kills, every single night, so the entire idea seems far-fetched unless there's something else you know. There are other explanations for an extra kill, from one-time nightkillers, an extra kill on a jack-of-all-trades either in Mafia or town. The probability -- I...

Why do you think there's a Serial Killer?

The weird sass about post length isn't exactly helping your case. I fully admitted to overtyping last Day but the fact is I've laid out fairly comprehensively why you're suspicious and you barely back any of your claims up. The only way that's possible is if there are two Mafia left. Do we...

Waiting to see what happened. ;) I'm not at the marathon. I just pop in the chat sometimes and watch.

*I realize Rubik pushed for an All Might vote, but All Might was already suspect and was therefore a pretty safe bus to make himself look innocent. Between All Might and Bok both being suspect, I figure the Mafia are going to be desperate in general for their remaining members to appear town.

Welllll. Okay. I guess I was off regarding All Might being not as scummy. Although we still haven't found the godfather. I dunno if it's common for there to be a godfather in every game these days but there was when I played and considering how many power roles the town has turned out to have I...

I'm confused why she thinks there's a Serial Killer if she's a Vigilante. There have only been two nightkills every night. I'd probably do something to catch someone who claimed a role I had but it's never happened in every game I've played. It's one of the inherent problems with claiming in...

Will fully admit I overtyped there. Oh well. xP I just really have done nothing but what comes naturally and it's leading me to Rubik as the primary target, though he's far from the only scummy person right now.

Point is... you can SAY I look like I might be a scum trying to support the town to appear innocent, but nothing I've suggested isn't pretty plain to see, especially when you approach things from a perspective you already know I have: Distrust of claims. This can be corroborated by everyone who...