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it's readable, and it makes as much sense as anything in zelda theory, so if you like it, then make it truth in your zelda universe, if not then don't...no reason to really argue anything about it. i think it's a theory that makes termina much more interesting than just a random side world, and...

juiciej seems to like to say things aren't possible because they just aren't possible. and who really cares what the creators say? what if the creators made a timeline that doesn't make sense and contradicts in game things....oh wait that happened. if you base theories on in game evidence, which...

I saw in the "official" timeline from the Hyrule Historia book that FSA was placed after TP. If that turns out to be official, it would split the period of time between FS and FSA into hundreds of years. So then MC and FS could sort of be placed subjectively wherever into the timeline, since...

i think the sense of exploration was what was most lost in skyward sword, I 100% the game on my first run through without a walkthrough and without even really trying. All the sidequests took about 3 minutes each. And no goddess cube was hard to find, except maybe that one where you had to...

i don't see how a timeline would cause nintendo to have to work around anything, if they just stated, "this is the order of the games", and not explain every detail of everything. i think they should just release the timeline with no explanation, and then you still have the fun of piecing the...

sweet....i think i'm done with zelda then.....the puzzles are way to similar from game to game, so if you play zelda for only the puzzles it's completely boring...that's why i hated TP...and now if the story's become irrelevant there's nothing left going for the series...

so now that the game is out, and since i haven't played it, can anybody tell me anything about the theory that 99% percent of people jumped on about the dark interlopers playing a major role in skyward sword. if not, do ghirahim and demise relate to them at all? please don't answer with...

Idk if this has been said already as I'm far to lazy to read all the posts....but speaking of Sheikah and the dark tribe, Sheik was a male who was a female. Not that I think that's what Ghirahim is but just throwing that into this is he female discussion. It could be so.

Maybe he'll be like Draco Malfoy...bully, enemy, ally, friend, all rolled into one....

And maybe he didn't take Link's sword because the Skyward Swords spirit, the girl, is seperated from it. Perhaps the swords spirit came to link and was like "yo take this sword, find me, reunite me with my vessel and in return i'll help you defeat whoever took your girlfriend Zelda." And the...

I wonder why Ghirahim would be searching for a random little Sky girl named Zelda?

I didn't even think that they were looking for Zelda, I kind of assumed they were looking for the sword girl. Cool thought!

he could be more of a rival than an enemy, he might be looking for the same thing as Link and it's just kind of like a race. and they both keep showing up at the same time and fighting over the things they are both looking for, which could be why he's around so much.

I concede, yet hold out hope he turns.

"This proves that he's a villain." lol nice

possibly to cloak the real villain, and again I'm not saying Link won't fight him and he won't be an antagonist. but not all antagonists are turn out to be against you in the end.

I don't mean to be offensive in any way, but you've probably typed "I'm certain he's a villain, though. A "dark interloper"." 20 times on this thread. lol

I've never heard anyone say Link and Zelda are reincarnations. Anybody else want to speak up on this?

Interesting theory with no basis. If he was an "Avatar" like the sword girl. Maybe they are brother and sister. She begins to help Link so she can reunite with/stop her brother from evil. The full power of the sword is not unleashed unless The siblings are united, and the master sword is created...

I don't see how that's implied at all.

Link and Zelda aren't reincarnations. They are new forms of a type. One type being princess and one type being hero. Kaepora Gaebora was a specific person/soul that was reincarnated into a new body. If Link and Zelda were reincarnations taking on the previous one's form as you say they would all...

yeah that's true about an could be a sage. but further on reincarnation, if i may quote Wikipedia "Reincarnation is believed to occur when the soul or spirit, after the death of the body, comes back to life in a new form, such as another animal or anything that is living." Specifically the part...

well I'm not saying you can choose what you reincarnate as, but I think as a sage, he might have had that power. Why would you reincarnate as exactly what you were though. Wouldn't that not be reincarnation but a resurrection from the dead rather? And how would an owl be an ancient sage in the...

i believe the reincarnation could take any form it wanted, and it chose owl for some reason. That doesn't mean the original form was an owl. You may be confused as to what reincarnation is. I'm going to reincarnate as a horse, but I'm not a horse now.

From a psychological perspective, why do you think Link would stand there and take some taunting. Totally irrelevant, but the guy's face in the screenshot makes me think of the movie Hotrod when Rod just got saved from drowning and is like "Oh hey, Whats up Denise"

Look at the way he didn't attack him and is just chilling with him in the screenshot though. they just be relaxing, maybe having a cup of tea, and then fight for fun later. OBVIOUSLY, lol, neither prove anything. but it seems Link doesn't just rush right in and fight with him. Look's like they...

I think that though it looks to be more challenging, it doesn't look to be more difficult. That may seem contradictory, but i don't think it is. Yes each enemy may be hard to kill, but if there is little chance at being killed by the enemy that's not really a big problem. I hope personally the...

Do you think possibly with the upgrade system you might just be upgrading the beginner sword to the master sword. kind of like the wind-waker master sword two part upgrade thing. instead of getting an entirely new sword. Possibly the sword girl just gives the beginner sword more and...

most of the time opinions aren't begun with the word obviously......

there goes JuicieJ with his obviously's. You fight the old man on outset Island in windwaker...is he a villain? And he's not obviously a dark interloper. Stop just repeating w/e Axle says. He could be a trainer like the old guy on Outset.. I was thinking maybe he controls the sky villages, like...

I just don't see how this guy is a villain. Sure Link appears to be fighting him, or perhaps it's just sparing. The purple guy seems too relaxed/calloused towards Link to actually be an enemy. My thought is that maybe he is a traitor to the evil side at some point in the game/a mentor to Link.

Being that I never played FSA, though I own it, I was basing much of what I what I wrote on what I read on wiki's and such. As far as the time between MC and FS, yeah I see that. So it could go MC right into MM and then years later FS and FSA obviously. As far as the Gerudo hating Ganondorf in...

I'm not expert and may have overlooked a million major/minor things but this is sort of a way to show how MC-FS-FSA could be fit into the Imprisoning war/Ocarina of Time events. Assumptions The only assumptions important to note is that the Twilight Realm and Dark/Sacred Realm are two...

Anybody watch Lost? that's how I view time travel if that explains anything I've said further to anyone. Again @Locke, both theories take equally as much conjecture and made up details and both can be logical and illogical at the same time. I know the Split-Time line is the official view, my...

I'm basing my logic off of the logic of the real world. If you want me to throw that out and then try to understand Zelda logic I'm not sure I can, and I happen to know at least ten hardcore Zelda players who agree with my theory, so I guess everyone I know is crazy. But isn't that what they...

haha JuicieJ your logic baffles me. and one of the assumptions I didn't list is actually in the quote you copied. unless there is something I don't know about that proves the ancient sages were around at the beginning of OoT.

To believe in the split-timeline you have to believe three completely illogical things. First, that the King would listen to a strange child from the forest who claims to be from the future and accuses Ganondorf of the unthinkable with no proof, this after the King did not believe his own...

Yeah I realized that as soon as i posted and edited my post.

I am simply disregarding Nintendo's split timeline theory because obviously I can't make a linear timeline theory if I do listen to it. How would I theorize about a Linear timeline if I'm basing certain knowledge of a split timeline. I believe I can logically prove a linear theory even if it...

You seem to be ignoring the fact that I already said I know what Nintendo said about the split time-line. I simply don't care because it doesn't make sense. And at this point I'm basically ignoring the 2d. I don't think Zelda I and II really have a place in the time-line. But As I previously...

@Dekushroom, why would Link have the Triforce of Courage if he was returned to the time before he let Ganondorf into the sacred realm. He couldn't have had the triforce on his hand at that point because Ganondorf had not touched the Triforce. So still Link has zero credibility. He's just some...

I realize that it has been semi-explicitly stated that there is a split time-line, but I don't see how this is logically possible. I also think there is a lot of evidence in the games to prove there isn't a split time-line. Basically my theory states that in OoT when the sages seal Ganondorf in...