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Same to you for clarifying, as even reading the posts, I just thought that that got lost in translation.

Okay, I now understand where you're coming from. I might have jumped to that conclusion that only one party was just expected to take perspective, as when it does come to debates, I don't think the point is to win an argument, it's to come to an understanding. And that's really all I meant by...

You literally argued that someone should see things from a different perspective, and when I acknowledged that that goes both ways, there was suddenly an argument for why it doesn't go both ways. Does taking perspective go both ways or not?

So what you're interested in then is for others to just listen? Not much of a conversation as much as it is a lecture.

That's a two way street, bud. You know that as well as I do.