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    Spoiler Demise in the Future

    ^ The Historia seems to say that Demise is an incarnation of evil: (From Glitterberri.com) /Blue Window
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    Ghirahim, Demise, and the Dark Tribe

    It is of course possible that it is a retcon, however, it still takes a leap of faith, not a very large one, especially since Nintendo could have clairifed this in the Historia but omitted this part. It is quite reasonable for the Dragons to have eternal life, however, my point concerned the...
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    Ghirahim, Demise, and the Dark Tribe

    It is not stated that the Dragons did not aid Hylia in the battle against Demise, and it is quite likely that they did. It is not implausible to imagine the Dragons turning into Light Spirits. However, I find it quite hard to imagine the Light Spirits originally are Light Spirits, then turn into...
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    Ghirahim, Demise, and the Dark Tribe

    To JuiceJ I am saying that Hylia is mentioned as fighting the demons as well as Demise, while there is no mentioning of the Light Spirits, nor is there any need for the Interloper story to be used as an explanation for that segment. The Light Spirits were tasked by the Golden Goddeses to...
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    Ghirahim, Demise, and the Dark Tribe

    To JuiceJ My point was to demonstrate why I find it more plausible that the Interlopers story take place after SS rather than before it, but I will go over to discuss your other point. Here is an excerpt from the SS intro, where it says that Hylia, although not alone, fought the demons and...
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    Ghirahim, Demise, and the Dark Tribe

    This is the Historia's account of the "Ancient Battle" (from glitterberri.com) 1. Demons appear from the earth (if this is to be seen as a metaphor or not is up to debate) with the objective to seize the Triforce. 2. Hylia sends away Skyloft. 3. Hylia defeats the demons and seals Demise. Here...
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    Relation With Demise

    Even if we assume that Ganondorf is the embodiment of Demise's hatred, that would still not have to mean mean that he is born because he is that hatred, it can equally well mean that he becomws the embodiment of this hatred because someone had to become it. Or, rather: Demise only says that an...
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    Relation With Demise

    Demise was sealed inside the Master Sword, where the last remnants of him are left to wither over time. /Blue Window
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    Relation With Demise

    Demise is destroyed twice in SS: 1) In the "present" Link's wish upon the Triforce makes the "Isle of the Goddess" descend and kill Demise. 2) In the "past" Demise is sealed in the Master Sword where his consciousness is left to decay over time. So, Demise himself is gone. However, he says...
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    Zelda Theory-Kaepora Gaebora

    About the AlttP Maidens and the OoT Sages The AlttP Maidens are descendants of the seven sages that sealed the entrance to the Dark World. The apparent problem between the Maidens being human/Hylian and the OoT Sages being Kokiri, Goron and Zora as well as human has earlier troubled many...
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    Spoiler Demise in the Future

    Demise's defeat in SS was not his first defeat, indeed, however, it is only after that battle that he explicitly puts his curse upon the struggle over the Triforce. Anyway, I feel like this might be a discussion of exact meanings of different terms, so I admit that there can be several ways of...
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    Spoiler Demise in the Future

    It's pretty hard for Demise's hatred to reincarnate into Ganondorf (...you know what I mean) if the hatred is still inside Demise's own consciousness. This would, on the other hand, not make Demise any less valuable to the Zelda mythos, in my opnion, because his defeat triggers the endless cycle...
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    Spoiler Demise in the Future

    Impa does say that Demise's consciousness will fade away after time, and, even though the time period is not specified, I doubt that his "spirit" remains in the time of OoT, for it would seem strange, to me, if there was both an incarnation of evil (Ganondorf) and Demise's mind existing at the...
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    Three-Branched Timeline Split Explanations

    To bomberboy There is one Ganondorf, one Master Sword and one Triforce for each timeline, save the fact that a new Ganondorf is born in FSA. We have no information on this. I would guess, though, that this is not the case since there seems to be no connection between the Sacred Realms in WW...
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    Connection?

    I think that it is possible to see a connection in the way that the DT is shaped by Ganondorf (Power), the AT is shaped by Link (Courage) and the CT is shaped by Zelda (Wisdom), but that this has no further impact on the series than being a pleasant coincidence. But Nintendo might have greater...
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    Which Zelda Game Do You Think It's a "must-play"?

    I voted for OoT, becuase I feel that it is both storywise and gameplay-wise the new quintessence of the series, a title earlier held by AlttP. It would introduce the new player to both the basic game mechanics of the series as well as its overall mythology. OoT expanded the lore of AlttP, but...
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    Spoiler Why No Gerudo in TP? Now Answered!

    To Admiral Makar When Ganondorf enters the Sacred Realm (also known as the Golden Land) in OoT it becomes corrupted and turns into the Dark World. After having defeated Link and recalaiming the Triforce, Ganondorf becomes Ganon. The Sages seal Ganon inside the Sacred Realn with the Triforce...
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    Zelda Theory-Kaepora Gaebora

    To TheBlueReptile It is certainly possible that the Sages needed to die prior to their "ascension". However, it seems very strange if this fate is not shared by all sages. Zelda is obviosuly alive. I also think that the game does not suggest at all that Nabooru died (remember that Twinrova...
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    Zelda Theory-Kaepora Gaebora

    The question is left, then, what ancient sage Kaepora Gaebora is a reincarnation of, unless Rauru is already dead and is reincarnated while his spirit at the same time is inside the Sacred Realm (but that seems a little bit far-fetched in my opinion). /Blue Window
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    Shadow Mori's Dual Dimension Time-Line

    Hello Shadow Mori! I did not really understand why TMC Hyrule being Termina makes sense. Would you like to elaborate further on that? (To me it makes more sense that all places called Hyrule are the same place, save New Hyrule, but that is on the other explained in the games.) /Blue Window
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    Three-Branched Timeline Split Explanations

    To cucco002 They might, of course, continue to expand on the DT. Still, both after ST and FSA there are hints of a possible continuation. (Source: ShiKage, Snowbrigardier and GlitterBerri och glitterberri.com) /Blue Window
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    Official Timeline W/ Simple Explanation?

    The Split Timeline seems to already have been explained, but I will try to do it as well. In the end of OoT Link and Zelda have a talk. Ultimately Zelda sends Link back in time using the Ocarina of Time. Link is then sent back to a time before he had met Zelda. Link never draws the Master...
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    Three-Branched Timeline Split Explanations

    To fused_shadow Ganondorf was sealed when he had the full Triforce by the Sages already back in 1990, in the AlttP back story, so this is not a new idea. /Blue Window
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    Three-Branched Timeline Split Explanations

    In WW, we see Ganondorf taking the Triforce of Wisdom from Zelda while she is alive, so it is possible to take someone's Triforce piece without them getting hurt (much). I don't think that Nintendo will expand upon the DT anymore, since it only contains the classic games (and no games has been...
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    Spoiler Termina

    I don't think that there is any more to Termina that that it is just another dimension. Travelling to other separate worlds in general (like the Sacred Realm and the Twilight Realm), have no impact on the timeline, as far as we know. Thus, Link would return to the same timeline as the one he...
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    Adventures of Link... Which Zelda

    There are two Zeldas in the time of AoL: Zelda from LoZ and Princess Zelda I. It seems rather apparent that Zelda I is the first royal Zelda. SS Zelda seems like a good candidate. However, the Historia does not seem to imply that SS Zelda ever becomes a princess, and that Hyrule is founded...
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    Spoiler Link Reincarnations and the Spirit of the Hero

    Well, what do we know about the different Links? SS - The first Link (save the hero in the SS prequel manga). TMC - There is no information on his relationship with SS Link. FS - This Link looks like a descendant of TMC Link, according to the Historia. OoT/MM - There is no information on...
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    Three-Branched Timeline Split Explanations

    To ottobot I think that the general conclusion is that Nintendo wanted to put the Classic 2D-games in their own timeline to allow them to have a place in the timeline, but at the same time not have any impact on the modern games (for no games has been released on the DT since 2001 when OoX...
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    ALTTP and TP Question.

    The Twilight Realm and the Sacred Realm are not the same world, and as far as I know they lack any kind of connection (save for a similar name). When Link enters the Twilight Realm he, as a light-being protected by the ToC, is transformed into a wolf. The Dark World of AlttP is the corrupted...
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    Three-Branched Timeline Split Explanations

    To ottobot In your, technically, reasonable theory, you propose that Ganondorf wins because Link disappears from the timeline. What do you then think of the Historia clearly stating that Link battled Ganondorf and lost (when he was an adult, had the Triforce of Courage and had awakened the...
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    Spoiler The Temple of Time and the Sacred Grove: Location, Location, Location.

    It seems like the Historia has more or less confirmed that the Sealed Temple (SS) = Temple of Time (OoT) = Temple of Time (TP). The only time the Master Sword might be moved is between OOT---WW and OoT---AlttP (unless the Hyrule Castle is rebuilt on the Temple of Time before WW and unless the...
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    *NEW USER* Just Want to Be Clear Here...

    I was of course referring to "after OoT", or in other words: "The reason the Goddesses flood the world is because there is no Link to stop Ganondorf when he returns after OoT, in the WW back story, because Zelda had sent Link to another timeline". /Blue Window
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    *NEW USER* Just Want to Be Clear Here...

    Welcome Fame Killz! I would say that you seem to have a pretty solid understanding of the new "triple-split", official, Zelda timeline. Just some notes: About the "Child Timeline" (#2 on your list): 1) We don't know if Link ever finds Navi, for he is left riding in the Lost Woods at the end...
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    Three-Branched Timeline Split Explanations

    Yeah, no problem! There is no mentioning of the King during the adult portion of OoT at all. (I've read somewhere that the Historia suggests that Rauru is the King of Hyrule, but that doesn't make much sense since he is like "ancient" and he has a young daughter that doesn't make a connection...
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    Spoiler The Link Defeated Timeline, How the Games Connect? (not About the Origin)

    To ZestanorLink The linked ending of OoX seems to suggest that Link is leaving Hyrule. It is of course possible that he goes on after OoX and then returns to Hyrule. The Historia might just not have included that: (Translated by ShiKage and SnowBrigadier, posted on glitterberri.com) /Blue Window
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    Spoiler The Link Defeated Timeline, How the Games Connect? (not About the Origin)

    AlttP, the Oracle games and LA share the same Link (or are heavily implied to do so). There is actually a pretty good flow between the games. (By the way, in case the (in)famous Zelda introduction line comes up: Din introduces herself too to Link in the linked OoA. Should Zelda's line mean that...
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    Three-Branched Timeline Split Explanations

    To cucco002 Welcome back! The Historia doesn't say that the Sages sealing Ganondorf in the Dark World have to be the Seven Sages from OoT. It might be so, but the picture near the text shows the seven "wise men" from AlttP (i.e. all humans). If the seven sages sealing Ganondorf during the Seal...
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    Where's Ganondorf?

    Maybe such game could feature Link's father (and since there have been Link before OoT with green clothes, this "Link" could have it, too), preventing Ganondorf from doing something evil, like releasing Vaati. The Historia has a disclaimer that it can be retconned, so a story with little impact...
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    Spoiler Why No Gerudo in TP? Now Answered!

    Ganondorf is a Gerudo, that is correct. However, he is just Ganondorf from OoT that has come back. No Gerudo society can be seen existing in TP, whereas there is one in FSA. I will try to explain some basic timeline mechanics to you, but I warn you that it might sound confusing. At the end of...
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    Where's Ganondorf?

    The original Japanese might indicate that Hyrule is the name for the holy land the people is fighting over (the Sacred Realm is not separated from Hyrule in the original text), rather than a proper state. There are several wars and conflcits mentioned in the Historia, Nevertheless, the...
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    Zelda Master Sword Theory

    Hyrule Historia seems to have confirmed what happened to the Master Sword after OoT Link left the AT and what happened to it when he arrived at the CT: (Translated by GlitterBerri on glitterberri.com) So, Zelda put the Master Sword back on the AT. That is a quite reasonable explanation...
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    Hylian Shield and Red Loftwing

    It has been confirmed in the Historia that the Royal Crest is the combination of Hylia's symbol and the Loftbird, and since it is this symbol that is used on the Hylian Shield, we have the origin for the symbol on the shield, too! (This might be odd since this symbol was featured on the Hylian...
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    Three-Branched Timeline Split Explanations

    ^ Several independent sources have all translated the text from the Historia, all of them agreeing on the fact that Link is defeated on the DT. Even though, they are not official translations (even though the official ones have their share of problems too), they are likely right according to...
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    Spoiler Why No Gerudo in TP? Now Answered!

    This what ShiKage on Zelda Informer have translated from the Historia about the FSA Gerudo. /Blue Window
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    Question About Triforce in SS. Sorry if There is Already a Post, Im New Here :S

    To A monkey wall You would perhaps be interested in knowing which games have the same Links and which don't. The games that are separated by a "/" have the same Link, whereas the games that have "---" between them have different Links. Note that this might not be 100 % accurate, for all...
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    Spoiler Why No Gerudo in TP? Now Answered!

    Welcome to ZD, Deku Nut! Hope you will have a good time here! Since the timeline Link returns to is the Child Timeline, I assume that your post treats that timelne. Then, I can easily tell you that the Gerudo did not die out. They are absent in TP, but they are back again in Four Swords...
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    Where's Ganondorf?

    We can start by asking oursevles why the Golden Goddesses would intervene and send the Light Spirits to seal the Interlopers to the Twilight Realm if they couldn't acquire the Triforce to begin with (if it was sealed off inside the Sacred Realm)? Anyway, this is the quotation from Lanayru...
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    Spoiler Relations Between ST and TP

    SS spoilers I believe that both TP Link and ST Link share the "spirit of the Hero" (spirit of SS Link), which I doubt Byrne does. Both ST and TP take place in the same world, but on different timelines. We know that TP takes place some centuries after OoT, which WW as well does (although I...
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    Ganon?

    The way I gather is the general opinion on Demise's ending speech that he, or rather, his hatred, is reincarnated as Ganondorf. What exactly this means is up to debate, though. My theory is that Demise and Ganondorf are all incarnations of the same "evil". Fi actually makes a comment on Demise...
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    Zelda Master Sword Theory

    This is what seems to be the history of the Master Sword and the Picori Blade/Four Sword from the new translations of the Historia (thanks to everybody who have translated from the book) (Spoilers all games, of course) EDIT: Added a new #8 after Locke reminded me on the new FS back story. 1...
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