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Some of these arguements are WAY out there. Just because Superman is weak against magic and kryptonite does not mean he can't fight threw them. Other superheroes are weak against other stuff, yet they've still overcome them. Even if the Avengers found a way to get their hands on some kryptonite, or use their magic, Superman has in comic books fought passed the pain. Superman is more powerful than most think as his powers keep increasing in comics. The only Person who could get Superman due to weaknesses would be Reed Richards who is not an Avenger.
What do you guys mean by "core roster?" If you mean what I think you mean, the list is wrong. The core members of the Justice League are, Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern (Hal Jordan), the Flash (Barry), Martian Man Hunter (debatable), Black Canary, Red Tornado, Aquaman and maybe Green Arrow (in recent years replaced with Red Arrow). The original members were NOT the members on the tv series. Original members were Black Canary, Green Lantern (Hal Jordan), Aquaman, the Flash (Barry) and Martian Man Hunter. Current roster, if I'm up to date, is Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, Cyborg, the Flash, and Green Lantern.
Core members of the Avengers are more debateable but I would say they include Captain America, Iron Man, Thor, the Hulk, Hawkeye and the Black Widow. (You might also include Spider-Man and Wolverine because ever since the New Avengers, they've been seen too often with the Avengers) The original members were stated by Turo in post 6 and I'm totally lost on who the current members are.
The arguements given thus far have not swayed me one bit. DC's Batman is one of the most unfair comic characters. He's supposed to have no powers, but really his power is his intelligence. He can figure things out faster than humanly possible.
There were lots of things in this post I wanted to address, but this stuck out the most to me. Iron man is completely reliant on his tech. His power is his ability to figure out tech better than anyone (save Reed Richards whose brain is OP to the extreme). However, Batman's intelligence reaches technology past Tony Stark's level AND in other areas. He would have Iron Man shut down faster than he could register (whether using his suit or any other tech).
Batman alone would be a match for any of the Avengers fighting one on one. If you put him on a team (especially the Justice League) where he can exploit other people's powers, he becomes even more unstoppable.
Actually, this is true. Final episode of JLU is proof (even though I don't consider cartoons really canon). Another proof is the Batman Superman comic where Supergirl is reintroduce. Superman becomes so angry at Darksied, he no longer holds back and beats him in about 5 seconds.
What do you guys mean by "core roster?" If you mean what I think you mean, the list is wrong. The core members of the Justice League are, Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern (Hal Jordan), the Flash (Barry), Martian Man Hunter (debatable), Black Canary, Red Tornado, Aquaman and maybe Green Arrow (in recent years replaced with Red Arrow). The original members were NOT the members on the tv series. Original members were Black Canary, Green Lantern (Hal Jordan), Aquaman, the Flash (Barry) and Martian Man Hunter. Current roster, if I'm up to date, is Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, Cyborg, the Flash, and Green Lantern.
Core members of the Avengers are more debateable but I would say they include Captain America, Iron Man, Thor, the Hulk, Hawkeye and the Black Widow. (You might also include Spider-Man and Wolverine because ever since the New Avengers, they've been seen too often with the Avengers) The original members were stated by Turo in post 6 and I'm totally lost on who the current members are.
The arguements given thus far have not swayed me one bit. DC's Batman is one of the most unfair comic characters. He's supposed to have no powers, but really his power is his intelligence. He can figure things out faster than humanly possible.
Batman is just amazing, and as much as I love Captain America, he wouldn’t really stand too much of a chance against him. The only Avenger that I think could stand a chance against Batman would be Iron Man. Iron man is a human fighter jet. And even Batman would have some trouble with him.
There were lots of things in this post I wanted to address, but this stuck out the most to me. Iron man is completely reliant on his tech. His power is his ability to figure out tech better than anyone (save Reed Richards whose brain is OP to the extreme). However, Batman's intelligence reaches technology past Tony Stark's level AND in other areas. He would have Iron Man shut down faster than he could register (whether using his suit or any other tech).
Batman alone would be a match for any of the Avengers fighting one on one. If you put him on a team (especially the Justice League) where he can exploit other people's powers, he becomes even more unstoppable.
1. Please tell me a comic issue, cartoon, or whatever where it's shown that Superman beats up Darkseid with ease. Because I've never seen it. And what gives you the idea that Superman never goes to 'full power'?
Actually, this is true. Final episode of JLU is proof (even though I don't consider cartoons really canon). Another proof is the Batman Superman comic where Supergirl is reintroduce. Superman becomes so angry at Darksied, he no longer holds back and beats him in about 5 seconds.
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