Spoiler [Movie-Arc]L.O.Z Era of Chaos "The Hyrulian Civil War"

[Lambsquirt]

Possible Leak, Calculated Theory for the "Legend of Zelda Movie"

The "Legend of Zelda Movie" will be based around the events in the "Era of Chaos" Before the "Hyrulian Civil War".

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-Dark Magic and Live Action Ninjutsu and Martial Arts, Tying Japanese culture to "The Sheika".
-Black Market "Zonai and Sheika" Technology. (Fits the timeline lore)
-The Interlopers, led by the Dark Sheika Wizard Vaatai.
-Koume and Kotake and the Gerudo Rebellion.
-Twinrova. (Fits timeline Lore)
-Link, Zelda and ALL the Races of Hyrule.


"The Current Argument is Story Arc and plot using Datums." #(Refer to comments section - #6, #8 & #9)


"Fixing the 7 plot holes of Timeline all at once."

1. Interlopers & the "Fused Shadow"

2. Koume and Kotakes, "Magic", "Long life" and "Devout Loyalty" to Ganon.

3. 2 Ganons (oot ww twp) and the sealed "Demon King Ganon"

4. The Civil War and the Joining of the Gerudo Rebellion and Sheika Interlopers (Yiga & Twili Origins)

5. 'Demon King Ganons' lack of pursuit of the Tri-force.

6. Sonia and Zelda being simultaneous incarnations of Goddess Hylia, in Totk. (Evident Time Power)

7. Nayru - The Goddess of wisdoms Incarnation as Zelda, "SS" following the events of Totk past.
(Ref comment #3 in comments section)

Incorporating the Interlopers and the branching from the Sheika
as well as the Gerudos splitting into two sects during the "Hylian Civil War",
Serve as valid "Twili and Yiga" Origins.

The Dark Wizard Vaatai, The son of a "Gerudo" that married a "Sheika Wizard" raised outside of "The Gerudo Desert"
Learns the "Sheika ways" During his long life learns of Ganon, Discarding loyalty to the Goddesses.
Koume and Kotake, (already having learnt to weild magic to be currently 200ish.)
join Vaatai, and Merge the "Gerudo", (currently led by Koume and Kotake) and "Rogue Sheika" forces to take over Hyrule.


Vaatai the Interlopers, along with Koume and Kotake, Capture Zelda and conspire to Kill the King,
Dedicated to find the "Sacred Realm" and Free the "Demon Lord Ganondorfs True Power" using the Tri-force.

The King, falls out of favour with his subjects "Banning" Sheika and Zonai Technology,
With Zelda as Vaatais hostage, The King of Hyrule, surrenders the location of "The Scared Realm".
in return, Vaatai spares his Daughters life.

Vaatai and the Gerudo Witches hunt down the Sacred Realm to obtain the Tri-force.
Ultimately to wish the true "Demon king Ganondorf" free from the "Abyss".


"Creation".


"Skyward Sword".
(The "Imprisoned"/ Demise is Resealed)
(Sky Era).


"Interloper/Civil War".
(Era of Chaos).


"Kingdom of Hyrule Refounded".
(Vaatai is Transformed into a "Minish")
(Era of Prosperity).


"Minish Cap" & "4 Swords".
(Vaatai Resurfaces, impending war looms)
(Vaatai is sealed, "OOT" Ganon is Born)
(Force Era).


"Ocarina of Time".
("Links Mother" Escapes Ganons proxy "Unification War", Gives Link to the "Deku Tree".) - Ganon currently 30s/40s. -"Canon"
(10 years later, the events of "OOT") - Ganon currently 50s/60s - "Canon"
(Hero of Time Era).

Spoiler - The case for Rauru's early reign; before Skyward Sword

At this time, as far as I have found, there are a number of problems with the past that Zelda was sent to, in Tears of the Kingdom, taking place after Skyward Sword. Why after Skyward Sword does not work. * There is no recognition of the Master Sword, when Zelda talks about it, and her only...

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#(Credit to "Ryu Kage Desu" For Raru's Correct Timeline Placement.)

 

[Lambsquirt]

The Pitch is A Movie Trilogy,

First Movie,
Ganon is Hyped as the villian, But later he's revealed to be "Vaatai". (Leader of the Sheika Interlopers/Dark wizards)

Vaatai, (using the Magic of the "Fused Shadow")
Conceals his real Identity, Conning US.
"Koume and Kotake", currently 200 (Emotional attachment to Ganon their Father).
Meet Vaatai and conclude he is "Ganons incarnation". (Apperace or Incarnation timing.)
Making Us the audience and the "Twins" believe him to be Ganon.

Having the "Gerudo Army" ruled by Kome and Kotake (Best Warriors in Hyrule)
and the, "Shieka Interloper Wizards" at his disposal, (Along with the Fused Shadow)

"Vaatai" could easily dispose of the Powers that be, (Currently in control of "Hyrule")
To find the "Sacred Realm" and the "Tri-force" during the "Civil War Era",

Black Market Zonai and Sheika Technology could be Present this fits in with Timeline lore,
and being the most recent adddition to the Zelda Universe would captivate the New fans.
While the story of the "Sheika" and "Gerudo" (Twilli and Yiga) Would captivate Fans from the 90,s through to TWP and BOTW,

The following could all make an appearance in the movie if its during the "Civil War"

1. The Golden Goddesses.
2. The Tri-Force.
3. Ganons "100" Year Incarnation.
4. Koume and Kotake, (Presence in TOTK and OOT)
5. "The Hero Of Chaos" (Link)
6. Sages
7. All Races. (Even the "Mogma" -"Ancient Hero Aspect" Can exist at this point without contradicting the timeline.)
8. Twinrova
9. "Zonai" and "Sheika Tech" Simultaneously
10. The "Interlopers" and "The Fused Shadow"
11. Live action "Ninjutsu Martial Arts" (The Sheika)
12. The Depths and Mines.
13. "Regional Sheika Towers" (Botw) Elevator system to the "Regional Mines" in the Depths (Rarus Reign).

"1st time we see Twinrova"??

During the "Hyrulain Civil War", Koume and Kotake would be 200 years old. (the middle of their life)
At this point in time they would be at the "Peak" of their Physical and Magical abilities.


Climax Of The Movie -

Vaatai the Sheika Wizard, succeeds in Locating the Sacred Realm,
But before Vaatai can get the Triforce to make his wish, a circumstance,
"Chaos".
Whomever gets the Tri-force , amidst the "Chaos".
Wishes the great wizard Vaatai to be turned into a "Minish".

After losing the War,
Koume & Kotake "Disappear".
The "Sheika Interlopers" are sealed in the Twilight realm.
Gerudo are banished back to the Desert.

A "no violence" win against the Villain and with "Just a Wish" the next 2 games fit the sequence of the timeline & 5 of 7 holes are mended.

I want the Goron to make the wish.

 

[Lambsquirt]

#3 side note spoiler for Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeks
Look closely at how Zelda seals herself in Skyward Sword.
Then Play OOT and active "Nayrus Love"
(Biggest oversight in history of the "Goddess Theory Community")

 

[Ryuu Kage Desu]

I really hope the movie is considered canon, and works well with the lore.

Interesting thoughts.

Thanks for the credit.

 

[Lambsquirt]

I really hope the movie is considered canon, and works well with the lore.

Interesting thoughts.

Thanks for the credit.

No thank you! for your sound Theorizing! and my first comment in Zelda Dungeon!

 

[Lambsquirt]

This timeline 'Theory' of "Koume and Kotakes lifespan" may help.

Spoiler - Calling all Lore Nerds #2 Time Between TOTK past and OOT?

"Fire and Ice" R18 Warning! - Mushroom Humor I used Koume and Kotake in Totk Past. "Canon" as a "Datum Point". Also, Ganon (The Gerudo Male 100 year incarnation process) "Canon". as a "Constant". What I'm Theorizing... DO YOUR OWN MATH...

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[Lambsquirt]

#Side note.
Q).Do you really think after the events of TOTK past (Ganondorf being sealed by Raru).
A Gerudo mother would call her son Ganon??

The "Physical Body" is still dictated to Genetics and Geographical Conditioning,

Just as you or I.

if Vaatai was Born from a Gerudo mother and Sheika Wizard, FAR from the Gerudo Desert.
he can be "Ganons incarnation", it fits in with the "100 year Gerudo Male incarnation Prophercy", -(Canon)
Before the Gerudo are Exiled.

The point being Vaatai can use "Dark Magic" and Can use it to trick us and Koume and Kotake, into believing he is "Their" Ganon.

This is why Numan Acar is a Perfect choice to play the role of Vaatai/Ganon .

 

[Lambsquirt]

Important information RE. "Ganons Incarnation Cycle"

The Legend of Zelda - Calling All Lore Nerds!! #3

Q). "Does Ganon Incarnate indefinitely every 100 years?" 1. YES! 2. No...... 3. Subject to "Circumstance". [Theory] Ganondorfs evil soul is Relentless. Never at peace. Every time he dies he Incarnates, and the 1 male every 100 years IS "Canon" Every 10 000 years he succeeds in Escaping (The...

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[Lambsquirt]

[Final Spoiler]
"The 2 Master Sword Paradox"

Spoiler - Calling All Lore Nerds #4 Final Spoiler.

"The 2 Master Sword Paradox" (Canon) "A simple solution to the time paradox of the Master Swords." "Breath of the wild" & "Tears of the Kingdom", Are indeed intertwined within the same time line. #(Lets use the "Naturally Occurring Master Sword" as our "Datum Point") For the "Master Sword"...

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[Ryuu Kage Desu]

This timeline 'theory' of "Koume and Kotakes lifespan" may help.

Personally, I don't see why the two aren't subject to the reincarnation cycle, like everyone else (Ganon aside). Ultimately, I think they could be one in the same, but they don't have to be. I don't think their presence, or age, necessarily proves or disproves any placement.

The point being Vaatai can use "Dark Magic" and Can use it to trick us and Koume and Kotake, into believing he is "Their" Ganon.

As for Vaati, I think he is more closely related to the people that would become the Twili. I think the eye symbol if Zoni in origin, and that most of the Zoni became the Minish. At some point, between their history as the Zoni and their history as the Minish, A large group of them were banished to become the Twili.

Which is all to say, that I don't think Vaati is directly connected to the Gerudo. But, I do think he deserted the seal beneath the castle, allowing Ganondorf to be "revived."

 

[Lambsquirt]

So there is an apparent connection between the two.... interesting,

Our theory suggested,

#Does propose Ganon incarnates into Vaatai, a 1/2 Gerudo and 1/2 Sheika (1st), then "Minish Vaatai" (2nd).

#Assumes the "Dark Sheika" are the "Interlopers"

#Assumes "Vaatai" could be used as a "Sheika Name".

that's our conjecture.

#His presence and the concept of this is backed only by using Ganons incarnation cycle (100 years).

The attempt to use Vaatais presence as a "Prequel" if you would for the next installment of the timeline. "Minish Cap."

(Used a bit of imagination but the constant of Ganons incarnation is the forefront of our theories working out.)

 

[Ryuu Kage Desu]

Yes. As I see it, Ganondorf, and all that he is, was sealed tightly in Rauru's magic tupperware, which was sealed within many layers of (probably weaker) Sheikah tupperware, and could have stayed that way indefinitely, until Vatti burped it. That burp was all Mummydorf needed to send out a portion of himself, leading to the many "births" and even more resurrections of Ganon, many of whom kept attacking the tupperware, ultimately weakening the seal until he could manifest directly, as the Calamities. Then, with the last Calamity, the final tupperware was broken.

 

[Lambsquirt]

I couldn't of described it better myself BRAVO!!! rofl.
I love how you described this my sister sold Tupperware and lost heaps of friends.