Should the Oracle Games Be Considered Sequels?

[ChargewithSword]

We know that a lot of us played the Oracle games, but should they be considered sequels instead of stand alone games. They have one thing that helps make them a sequel and that is Ganon's death.

Think about it, the only 2 games at the time that had Ganon dead were AoL and Alttp so when you consider this, perhaps this makes it a sequel to one of these games.

You have to realize that these games have a backstory to the death of Ganon and it had to be one of those games. Because this game was built on the ground of another game and it's either Aol or Alttp.

Ok then, let me reprhase that, should they be direct sequels?

[Zeruda]

I'm going to make my response rather short:
YES.

If it turns out that OoX has an actual spot in the timeline (I only keep up with what's canon), then yes, they should. Afterall, all of the games are sequels. They may not be direct sequels, but they are sequels. They take place after a different game. Not all of them have exact spots yet, but more games need to be made for that to happen. Lots of holes, y'know?

[Skull_Kid]

I think that the answer is YES, also, I think that they are better sequels to AoL than to LoZ, but that's my opinion, since it is stated in the evry manuals of AoL that it is a direct sequel to LoZ, so, placing them between the two could be weird, but, placing them AFTER AoL could result awesomely.
I must admit that there's where I usually put them, in my timelines

[MrMosley]

I don't consider them direct sequels myself. When the games were first released, they came directly after Majora's Mask be release dates. Back then, I didn't think much as far as timelines go, but considering Ganon was dead, Koume and Kotake were there, and Link rode around on his horse at the beginning, I assumed that they were sequels to MM.

But then a bunch of games later, we have to consider otherwise. Seeing as how Koume and Kotake are still alive, the games have to take place on the Child Timeline. Ganon is dead, so I would think they are going to go after ALttP/LA or AoL. The best bet in my opinion there is that they would go after ALttP/LA. To me it still dosen't make sense why Koume and Kotake would leave the series for generations after MM, but there are more points that make it impossible to put OoX there. So, my vote goes to a new Link and Zelda, sometime after LA.

[HeroofAges]

I have a theory.. the two thoughts seem to be that a) they are sequels/prequels to one another.. or they happen simultaneously in the two OoT established timelines thus bringing them back together at the end. But what if, like Termina in MM, these games took place in alternate realities? What if Twinrova, who was still alive in the child timeline by the way, found a way to revive Ganon using the alternate reality versions of Din and Nayru. The triforce, being all-powerful and all, simply pulls Link into two realities at the same time.. basically splitting him into two people. If the Four Sword can so can the Triforce. At the end the Two Links are rejoined before the final battle thus bringing the conclusion back into a single line.

Like this....


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[Gokou]

I'm gonna go with HeroofAges on this one. These two games "linked" to eachother. But we must figure out which game preceded this. At the start Link finds the Triforce and it puts him on a quest.

It can't be AoL. The Triforce was used to wake Zelda.
It can't be ALttP. It was used to put things back in order.
It can't be MM, Link didn't find the Triforce.

It is however possible that this could have happened during the time Link was sealed in the Sacred Realm (OoT). The Triforce was split and Courage found him and sent him on the "quests".

[HeroofAges]

I think that it falls later in the storyline then that.. There is probably at least one as yet un-released game that would best lead up to it..

[MrMosley]

The Triforce at the beginning is a small example of when the games could take place. It is obviously being held in Hyrule, as the opening scene shows Link riding through Hyrule, then shows him in the chamber of the Triforce. In fact, I believe that the Triforce is held within Hyrule Castle itself, seeing as how that is the last scene shown of the intro before going to the Triforce scene.

At the end of the Oracle games you face Ganon, who has been partially revived by Twinrova. This tells us two big things: 1.) It is Ganon, not Ganondorf, who is being revived. and 2.) Ganon has seemingly been killed off.

Taking all of this into consideration, we're left with two logical options to place the games.

After ALttP/LA (with a new generation of Link) - This would be the most likely location in my opinion.
* Ganon was destroyed, and at a time when he had been permanently transformed into his pig form. The revived Ganon in OoX even resembles Ganon from ALttP.
* The Triforce is no longer in the Sacred Realm. At the end of ALttP/LA, Link retrieves the Triforce. It could be that Link brought it back to Hyrule after this, where it would have been placed somewhere in Hyrule Castle.
* Zelda and Link do not know each other in OoX, therefore it has to be a new generation of the two.

Some suggest that the games could also come after LoZ/AoL, which is also likely. After AoL, Ganon was still destroyed; he was obviously in his pig form at this time, and Link also had full possession of the Triforce in Hyrule.

[Gokou]

Well, the Temple of Time is near Hyrule Castle. And I always figured Link was in the Temple of Light at the start of the Oracles.

I also think this...

The games were originally called the Mystical Seed of Power, Courage and Wisdom. Yes three planned games. They trashed Mystical Seed of Courage, leaving only wisdom and power. Maybe the Triforce "quests" were from each piece of Triforce for each game.

[Caleb, Of Asui]

I'm going to make my response rather short:
YES.

If it turns out that OoX has an actual spot in the timeline (I only keep up with what's canon), then yes, they should. Afterall, all of the games are sequels. They may not be direct sequels, but they are sequels. They take place after a different game. Not all of them have exact spots yet, but more games need to be made for that to happen. Lots of holes, y'know?

I totally agree with that. (Though I don't know what makes these games not canon.) Judging from the placement of the Triforce and Ganon, these games are distant sequels to A Link to the Past, just as The Wind Waker is a distant sequel to Ocarina of Time (as in, there is no major influence on the overarching story in between).

There's also the pattern of direct sequels in the series to consider (AoL, LA, MM...). Because of the way the Oracle games connect, one of them is the direct sequel to the other. Either one of them is the direct sequel in this case. This is the one order in Nintendo's and anyone's timeline that can go either way. There is no official order of the oracle games, just a placement together in the timeline.

I've also heard the idea that the Oracle games go between A Link to the Past and Link's Awakening, all four with the same Link. I don't believe that. No generation of Link and Zelda has ever or will ever feature in more than two [canon] Zelda games. Besides, it would not make sense to make such a sequel after releasing Ocarina of Time. I think the release order is specific in relevance to the timeline, so that would not work.

[LANZZ]

Yes, i think this games come after la, where link explore the world to banish an evils.....

[LANZZ]

Yes, i think this games come after la, where link explore the world to banish an evils after event of alttp.....

[Octo Rocked]

I'm also of the "Oracles merged the games" persuasion, although I've got a bit more...radical and controversial theory. Which I still need to fully flesh out.

But which will be posted in the timeline theory section when it's finished.

[Seth]

It isn't canon, but it is interesting to note, I may be remembering wrong but I believe in the Manga it is Seasons followed by Ages. I always put them in that order, but as covered here before it doesn't really matter which goes first, which is why most just lump them together as OoX.

[Skull_Kid]

They are, independant of the order you play them, a sequel to each other, and, in timelines, it doesn't matter how you put them as long as they are followed one by the other.
Also, they cannot be direct sequels to ALttP because Zelda has to introduce herself to Link, and, for everyone who didn't play through ALttP, they get acquainted with each other, and if OoX were direct sequels, she didn't have to make an introduction.