Octoroks Missing in TP? Yea Right!

[Ember Incubus]

TP ws the first and only game in the seris to not have a single octorok in it. However, if you go to the snowpeak temple, you see a new enemy called Mini Freezard. Some of you may remember the chest-peice-like enemy from OoT that is composed out of ice, but this enemy is different and here is why. In OoT, when you melt a Freezard, it melts into water. In TP, you could not melt Mini Freezards. By the way, a Mini Freezard looks like a large peice of ice with a red eye and a large black pupil. They returned in ST with the same appearance. In ST you can melt them, and when you do, it is revealed to be an octorok. Now some of you ot there are thinking at the moment "Octoroks do not have a large single red eye!" but, if you watch it, the red eye with the large pupil is actualy a red land octorok's snout! This leads one to believe that octoroks do in fact exists in TP. What do you think?

[43ForceGems]

I never thought of that. It's always bugged me that TP didn't have Octoroks. But, Nintendo didn't think of that idea until ST, so logically, they weren't intended to be Octoroks in TP. They might've looked back at it and said, "Hey that works out cool!" But it wasn't intended from the very get go.

[Ember Incubus]

I agree, but this still means that octoroks were put into TP.

[Sasuke Uchiha]

I heard that on another website as well. Octorocks hve been in every Zelda game (except ST) and TP was also my first Zelda Game.

[Ember Incubus]

Actualy, there were in ST. They were not in TP, until ST came out.

[Hero of Time]

There aren't Octoroks in WW, TP and far as I've heard none in MM and OoT.

[SheikahWarrior]

actally there are octoroks in all the games you mentioned HoT (if the TP theory is correct)

[Vanessa28]

Actually there are two Octoroks in the Goron Mines dungeon in TP. Remember the area when you have to shoot the diamond to open the door. You must also activate two buttons there. Later when you got your bow and you go back there you will face two Octoroks.
As far as I can recall these are the only two in the entire game.

[SheikahWarrior]

@ bigelover88- those weren't octoroks, they had a different name that i can't remember right now

EDIT: they are Fire Toadpoli, here is the part of the walkthrough with it on- http://www.zeldadungeon.net/Zelda11-...through-07.php

[Vanessa28]

No, these are the Water Toadpoli But they do the same thing as most Octoroks. Just shooting at you with their annoying rocks. So there might be a name change but in fact the concept is still the same.

[SheikahWarrior]

its like an octorok did it with a fish....... eww *mental scars*

[Durion]

TP ws the first and only game in the seris to not have a single octorok in it. However, if you go to the snowpeak temple, you see a new enemy called Mini Freezard. Some of you may remember the chest-peice-like enemy from OoT that is composed out of ice, but this enemy is different and here is why. In OoT, when you melt a Freezard, it melts into water. In TP, you could not melt Mini Freezards. By the way, a Mini Freezard looks like a large peice of ice with a red eye and a large black pupil. They returned in ST with the same appearance. In ST you can melt them, and when you do, it is revealed to be an octorok. Now some of you ot there are thinking at the moment "Octoroks do not have a large single red eye!" but, if you watch it, the red eye with the large pupil is actualy a red land octorok's snout! This leads one to believe that octoroks do in fact exists in TP. What do you think?

It's an interesting theory, but I don't think it will ever be anything more than just a coincidence. In Twilight Princess, the Mini-Freezard's actually have an eye there. Whereas in Spirit Tracks, the section that is sticking out of the Freezard looks exactly like an Octoroks mouth (well, Spirit Tracks version anyway). I believe that the eye on Twilight Princess's Mini-Freezard. My next point is that Twilight Princess was devoloped and release several years prior than Spirit Tracks was. In my opinion, this means that it's just a similarity that Nintendo never noticed until they made the Freezard in Spirit Tracks, even then they may not have noticed it.

As you can see, I don't think that Octorok's do exist in Twilight Princess due to that fact that this theory is mere coincidence, I have thought this ever since I first saw the idea on Zelda Wiki. Maybe if it actually showed solid, physical evidence that there was infact an Octorok inside the Mini-Freezards, I would be more neutral on whether this theory is correct, although thus far, I am adamant about this theory just being a coincidence.

I never thought of that. It's always bugged me that TP didn't have Octoroks. But, Nintendo didn't think of that idea until ST, so logically, they weren't intended to be Octoroks in TP. They might've looked back at it and said, "Hey that works out cool!" But it wasn't intended from the very get go.

I agree with what ForceGems has stated, I don't think that it was intentional on Nintendo's part while Twilight Princess was in production. I believe that they thought of the idea during the making of Spirit Tracks, and didn't really link it to Twilight Princess's Mini-Freezards in terms of official statements for why there are no Octoroks in Twilight Princess (although I doubt that would produce a statement for such a small topic and question).

I agree, but this still means that octoroks were put into TP.

It means that there may have been Octoroks in Twilight Princess, not that there were. I still believe that it is extremely unlikely that there is.

They were not in TP, until ST came out.

Once again, they may have been in Twilight Princess once they released Spirit Tracks, but as you know I am going to say that this is still doubtful. If Spirit Tracks was released prior to Twilight Princess, and not visa verca, then I may actually take this theory as extremely likely. However, as it is I believe that Freezard containing Octokrok's was an idea that was created by Nintendo after Twilight Princess was made and released.

No, these are the Water Toadpoli But they do the same thing as most Octoroks. Just shooting at you with their annoying rocks. So there might be a name change but in fact the concept is still the same.

These are two different enemies in my opinion. The Toadpoli is a completely differenct species, and therefore enemy, than the Octorocks. If you actually take a few seconds when you next play through the Goron Mines you will notice that they actually fire an oily water like substance, not a rock.

In my opinion, these are two different species, and therefore are different enemies in my eyes. The Toadpoli is different in structure and it's offensive form. When you next are playing through the Goron Mines, you will see that they look very different from the Octorok's that we see in other games. You will also notice that they do not fire a rock, they fire an oily water like substance (that's best way I can explain it really. ).

[Vanessa28]

No it didn't mean that Durion. I meant that the concept is the same. They spit something and you have to use your shield

[Durion]

No it didn't mean that Durion. I meant that the concept is the same. They spit something and you have to use your shield

It's the same concept, but they are different enemies. There are a large sum of enemies that use sword and shields which you need to use the same strategy for across the series, but they are very different enemies.

[Ember Incubus]

What I mean is that they were ashamed of not having an octorok in TP, so they decided to make a backup when ST came out.

@HoT:
By they way, octoroks in OoT, MM, and TWW.
http://zeldawiki.org/images/7/7f/Wwocto.png
http://zeldawiki.org/images/e/ea/Octorok_MM.jpg
(They look exacly the same in OoT and MM.)