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    Wouldnt minish cap have to be one of the first games in the series, because you start of with the that green tunic. Unlike other games (tp, WW, ST) you get them given to you. Its probably been theorized plenty of times before me. But i just thought....

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    This really isn't a theory, but including every game (except the unreleased one) I would say it is first for other reasons. In LoZ, AoL, ALttP, OoA, OoS, OoT, MM, LA, FS, FSA, MC, and PH, you start with the tunic. The only games that you don't start with it are the three you mentioned.
    Incomplete: AoL and ST.
    Complete: TLoZ, ALttP, LA, OoT, MM, OoA, OoS, TMC, TP, and PH.
    Never Played: TWW, FS, and FSA.
    Base: ZSS - MC - (FS) - OoT
    Adult: TWW - PH - Tetra Trackers - ST - (FS) - (LoZ)
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    Fair enough. Maybe MC comes before OoT but after SS. Because its probable the skyward sword will turn into the master sword.
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    SS--MC--OoT
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    What you put is very popular belief. Everyone thinks that because MC's intro is identical to ZSS's present story.
    Incomplete: AoL and ST.
    Complete: TLoZ, ALttP, LA, OoT, MM, OoA, OoS, TMC, TP, and PH.
    Never Played: TWW, FS, and FSA.
    Base: ZSS - MC - (FS) - OoT
    Adult: TWW - PH - Tetra Trackers - ST - (FS) - (LoZ)
    Child: MM - TP - FSA - ALttP - OoX - (LoZ) - AoL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ember Incubus View Post
    What you put is very popular belief. Everyone thinks that because MC's intro is identical to ZSS's present story.
    It may have been popular before, but it's dying quite fast. MC's intro is not identical to SS's story. Aounuma confirmed that there are no games before OoT until SS comes out. OoT's origins are more compelling than MC's. I think ZD was the only place it was popular in the first place. I also strongly disapprove of your use of the word 'everyone.'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Locke64 View Post
    It may have been popular before, but it's dying quite fast. MC's intro is not identical to SS's story. Aounuma confirmed that there are no games before OoT until SS comes out. OoT's origins are more compelling than MC's. I think ZD was the only place it was popular in the first place. I also strongly disapprove of your use of the word 'everyone.'
    Ugh, Aonuma did not confirm that there are no games before OoT except SS. He said that SS comes before OoT, yes, but he didn't come out and say that there are no other games before OoT. I wish people would stop jumping to that conclusion. >_>

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    Well, this isn't strong evidence that MC is first in the timeline, but it is a popular belief. The hat part of Link's clothes could be used as evidence, though.
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    That's an interesting point you make about the tunic. The games you mentioned where he doesn't start off with the tunic all come later in the timeline. I wonder if all the games coming out will have a similar plot point; that is, will games that come later in the timeline show link as a boy getting his new tunic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGreen View Post
    That's an interesting point you make about the tunic. The games you mentioned where he doesn't start off with the tunic all come later in the timeline. I wonder if all the games coming out will have a similar plot point; that is, will games that come later in the timeline show link as a boy getting his new tunic?
    As Ember said, games like LoZ/AoL and LttP (which are generally considered to be near the end of the timeline) start with Link already having the Tunic.

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    You just let the developers get on with the creating games, and we'll take care of the temporal verities thank you very much. You want to check your legal position you do mate. Under law the Quest for the Ultimate Timeline is quite clearly the inalienable prerogative of your working theorizers. Nintendo goes and actually releases it and we're straight out of a job aren't we? I mean what's the use of our sitting up half the night arguing that there may or may not be two Ganondorfs if Nintendo only goes and gives us their bleeding family tree the next morning?

    v My Pre-Historia Timeline v

    MC - FS/FSA - LttP/OoX/LA - LoZ/AoL
    SS - OoT
    - [Great Flood] - WW/PH - ST
    /MM - TP

    (Top - Legend Timeline; Bottom - Actual Timeline)
    Era of the Sky Savior; Creation of the Sacred Sword
    Era of War Over and Sealing Of the Sacred Realm*
    Era of Evil's Return (LT - A Hero Appeared; AT - Hyrule Flooded)
    Reconstruction Era
    *never figured out if FSA was the SW, or if that took place later.


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    It seems the question has been answered. Some games Link starts with the tunic and some he doesn't. Others have explained this well and since the majority of the OPs post was about MC, I am going to close this thread as we already have a couple active MC threads that have been going on for a while.

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