Forlong's Timeline Theory

[Forlong]

Here's my theory on the timeline. I'll include major events in Hyrule's history.

Note: Some of these are only theories of mine.

• Hylians inhabit the valley of Koholint and rename it Hyrule. Link the Great and Zelda the Fair seal the monsters of the land. Hylian Reckoning begins.

• 200 H.R. “The Minish Cap”

• c 300 H.R. Northeast Mountain erupts and is renamed “Death Mountain”. Zora’s River opens and creates a new Lake Hylia.

• 362-369 H.R. “Ocarina of Time”

SPLIT TIME LINE-Adult Time
• 464 A.T. “The Wind Waker”

• 465 A.T. “Phantom Hourglass”
END SPLIT
• 363 H.R. “Majora’s Mask”

• 367 H.R. Attempt to imprison Ganon succeeds.

• c 700 H.R. Deforestation expands Hyrule. Zora’s Domain dries up and the Zoras move to a new “Domain”.

• 908 H.R. “Twilight Princess”

• c 950 H.R. Ganon regains lost pieces of Triforce. Earthquake sinks original Death Mountain and redirects Zora’s River making a new Lake Hylia.

• 991 H.R. “Four Swords”

• 992 H.R. “Link to the Past”

• 995 H.R. “Four Swords Adventure”

• 1023 H.R. “Oracle of Ages” & “Oracle of Seasons”

• 1023 H.R. “Link’s Awakening”

• c 1050 H.R. Hyrule begins flooding. Hylians inhabit South Mountain, but all die. The mountain is renamed “Death Mountain”.

• 1214 H.R. “Legend of Zelda”

• 1215 H.R. “Link’s Adventure”

Any questions?

[TheManInTheMoon]

• Hylians inhabit the valley of Koholint and rename it Hyrule. Link the Great and Zelda the Fair seal the monsters of the land. Hylian Reckoning begins.

huh? where'd that come from?

• 991 H.R. “Four Swords”

• 992 H.R. “Link to the Past”

• 995 H.R. “Four Swords Adventure”

I don't see how this order can happen, during ALttP (GBA edition) we're shown a broken four sword. FSA tells us that between FS and FSA that sword was keeping Vaati sealed up.

Also, were does the backstory (seal war) of alttp take place?

• c 1050 H.R. Hyrule begins flooding. Hylians inhabit South Mountain, but all die. The mountain is renamed “Death Mountain”.

Wait, another flooding seperate from TWW? Also, LoZ and AoL don't have a singular Death Mountain, just a Death Mountain Area.

[Forlong]

huh? where'd that come from?

I theorized that myself. Sorry for not clearifying.

I don't see how this order can happen, during ALttP (GBA edition) we're shown a broken four sword. FSA tells us that between FS and FSA that sword was keeping Vaati sealed up.

Maybe I should double check my info on those games.

Wait, another flooding seperate from TWW? Also, LoZ and AoL don't have a singular Death Mountain, just a Death Mountain Area.

I theorize this to explain the abundance a water in "Adventure of Link".

[Mases]

The Adventure of Link and Legend of Zelda overworlds are part of the same 'larger' map. We have an entire thread about it with interesting stuff...

http://zeldadungeon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=302

Here are the maps

http://www.freewebs.com/hehehecool/z...12%5b1%5d2.JPG
http://www.freewebs.com/hehehecool/w...tlesplural.jpg

The first one is a bit clearer.

There is just more water in Adventure of Link since it is in the North portion of Hyrule where water is abundant.

[TheManInTheMoon]

Yeah, I've used the partially flooded Hyrule argument myself a few times, but rather then link it to some new, unknown world flood I linked it to the existing one.
Oh, and as much as I love the Valiant comics, that map can't really be considered Canon
This one should be considered http://faqsmedia.ign.com/faqs/image/reyvgm_zelda2.gif with LoZ's hyrule likely being the small bit in the SW

[PrinceofDarkness]

Yeah, I've used the partially flooded Hyrule argument myself a few times, but rather then link it to some new, unknown world flood I linked it to the existing one.
Oh, and as much as I love the Valiant comics, that map can't really be considered Canon
This one should be considered http://faqsmedia.ign.com/faqs/image/reyvgm_zelda2.gif with LoZ's hyrule likely being the small bit in the SW

I don't see how that'd work though putting Loz hyrule in the southwest, it looks totally diff. (especially death mountain) I like the comics map better personally.
I didn't know the comics map existed I'm totally framing it and putting it on my wall.

[Chrono]

It not only works, its official. AoL is placed in north Hyrule while LoZ is placed in South Hyrule. And no, no questions...but firstly its The Adventure of Link, not Link's Adventures...you've been Gannon-banned. Secondly, you did pretty decent with the events of Hyrule, could have gotten more detailed to support your theories though.

[PrinceofDarkness]

It not only works, its official.

It is? I mean it looks similar but there are major differences, for one the path to death mountain wasn't that big and you could approach it from the left or right in the first one not just the right, there was no entrance to northwest hyrule in LOZ, and a lake's missing. The gravyard also is not supposed to be where the path to death mountain starts.

[Chrono]

Spectacle Rock is in the middle of Death Mountain. The AoL death mountain maze was not in LoZ since it was a lot more north. And the area where Spectacle Rock is in AoL is an exact, yet smaller version of LoZ's Death Mountain area.

[Forlong]

I refined my time-line. Remember some of this is speculation.

I assume that Hyrule was not originally inhabited by the Hylians. I think the Picori, the Wind Tribe, and the Sheikah were the first natives to the land. I also think that Hyrule Castle was not build by the Hylians, but a more ancient race that died out before the Hylians came. I also think the Wind Fish lived around Hyrule for a time.
During the Hylian colonization, or shortly thereafter, Link the Great and Zelda the Fair sealed the monsters of Hyrule into the Picori Sword with the help of the Sacred Light. I call them “Link the Great” and “Zelda the Fair” because they resemble the two, but are not featured in any game (yet).

“The Minish Cap”
I think this game occurred only a hundred years or so after the colonization of Hyrule. I say that because the population in Hyrule is quite low, when there are no monsters around to kill people. There are also few structures, indicating early iron age technology. There is also no “Death Mountain”, like in other Zelda games, and the monsters abundant in other games are released in this one. Gorons are implied to be coming from a distant land, and the Zoras are absent all together. To cap it off, the cap in the “hero’s garb” is included at the end of this game.

“Four Sword”
Not to long after “The Minish Cap”, chaos breaks out in Hyrule. Link I pulls out the Four Sword to help, but frees Vaati in the process. Vaati kidnaps Zelda I and Link I saves her. I think the maps in this game are mostly outside the boarders of the map in “The Minish Cap”.

After the events of "Four Sword", I think Link I and Zelda I married, making every Link and Zelda thereafter distantly related. Some time after they die Veil Falls erupts and is renamed “Death Mountain”. Zoras appear in what is called “Zora’s Domain”. Zora’s River opens and creates a new Lake Hylia over the Castor Wilds and the Wind Ruins. Hyrule Town becomes Castle Town and Kakariko Village is built. “Minish Forest” is renamed “Lost Woods”. The Gerudo make contact with Hyrule.

“Ocarina of Time”
I think this game occurred about 150 years after “The Minish Cap”. Link II and Zelda II are probably third or fourth cousins, and both unaware of it. Apparently the Gorons and Zoras have colonized Hyrule completely and have a well-rooted culture.
The end of the game implies a split time-line. The end of the game doesn’t agree with the back story of “Link to the Past”, which says that many knights protected the sages.

Adult Time-Line
“The Wind Waker” & “Phantom Hourglass”
Hundreds of years after “Ocarina of Time”, Ganon returns and the world floods. Later Wind Waker Link and Tetra have their adventure to save the Triforce. The Triforce comes to the possession of king, Daphnes Nohansen Hyrule comes to have the Triforce. “Phantom Hourglass” happens a year or so afterwards.

Standard Time-Line
“Majora’s Mask”
After Zelda II sent Link II back to the past, Link went back to Zelda and they tried to sever Ganon from Hyrule. Link eventually goes out in search of Navi, resulting in the adventure in this game.

The Seal War described in “Link to the Past” and “Twilight Princess” probably come to pass shortly after Zelda II sent Link II back in time (five years, I’d say). The Knights of Hyrule, perhaps Link with them, defended the sages as they sealed Ganon. However, Ganon managed to kill one of the sages before the seal was complete and went to the Twilight Realm, but was still trapped. As for which sage died, I lean towards Rauru; but Darunia seems the more logical possibility. After the war, I presume that Link II married Malon.

Over the next few hundred years, deforestation goes up, expanding Hyrule. There is also an obvious population growth. Zora’s Domain dries up and the Zoras move to a new “Domain”. Hyrule is divided into the four territories. This is the Golden Age of Hyrule, as seen in “Twilight Princess”.

“Twilight Princess”
Several hundred years after “Ocarina of Time” (I’d say about 600), Ganon escapes from the Twilight Realm. Note that Link III and Zelda III seem to be the only ones that know about Ganon’s involvement, thus it is unmentioned in the legend told in “Link to the Past”. The question is, how did Link III complete the seal? I suspect that Malon is, in fact Rauru granddaughter, thus Link III has a fraction of Ruaru’s sage-powers. Not much, but enough to finish the seal. I think Link III married Ilia, who I think is descended from Saria.

Fifty years or so after “Twilight Princess”, Ganon regains lost pieces of Triforce, but remains sealed. An earthquake (probably caused by him) causes Death Mountain to collapse, destroying the original Hyrule Castle, and redirects Zora’s River making a new Lake Hylia that drowns out many of the southern and eastern cities. Ironically, a desert forms where Lake Hylia once was. Castle Town is modified into a new Castle and a new Kakariko Village is built. The plummet in the population allows the forests to grow large again.

“Link to the Past”
A few hundred years after “Twilight Princess”, Agahnim comes to “aid” Hyrule. He takes control and opens up the door for Ganon to return. Link IV, of course, impedes this act and eventually defeats Ganon and takes the Triforce.

“Four Swords Adventure”
Shortly after the events of “Link to the Past”, Ganon recovers from the serious injury Link IV gave him and eventually meets Vaati. The two work together to achieve their comon goal. Ganon seeks out a Trident he replicated with the Triforce in “Link to the Past”, believing that if he becomes strong enough he can take the Triforce away from Link. Link, once again,
stops him, killing him this time.

I think Link IV married Zelda IV and became the next king of Hyrule. They had two children, a son and a daughter. They named the daughter after her mother, who was identical to her. One of the six maidens in the previous two games, Impa II, serves the Princess Zelda IV.

“Oracle of Ages” & “Oracle of Seasons”
Around the time Link IV dies, Link V visits the shrine of the Triforce. It is possible he is allowed entrance because of the birthmark on the back of his hand. The Triforce transports him to the lands where these games occur. At the end, Twinrova sacrifice themselves to revive Ganon. However, because they had impure souls, Ganon is only a monster. Link V saves Zelda V from him and kills him.

“Link’s Awakening”
After his two adventures, Link V sails to parts unknown. He is shipwrecked and taken to the Wind Fish’s dream. He wakes the Wind Fish then makes his way back to Hyrule.

During the events of “Link’s Awakening”, the brother of Zelda V seeks the Triforce under the corruption of a sorcerer (I’m assuming it’s Agahnim). Agahnim puts Zelda in a irreversible sleep when she doesn’t cooperate, revealing that he wanted the Triforce for himself. I think Link V eventually returned and helped the Prince get rit of Agahnim.

Hyrule begins flooding (probably fifty years after “Link’s Awakening”). Hylians inhabit South Mountain, but all die. The mountain is renamed “Death Mountain”. It turns out the mountain was inhabited by Ganon, who was revived by Agahnim.

“Legend of Zelda”
A hundred years or more after “Link’s Awakening”, Link VI goes to Southern Hyrule and meets up with Impa III. She tells him that Zelda VI has been captured by Ganon, who is looking for the pieces of the Triforce of Wisdom. Link saves Zelda and slays Ganon. This time, Ganon is dead for good, maybe...

“The Adventure of Link”
Not long after “Legend of Zelda”, one or two years, Link VI learns that he is destined to obtain the Triforce. Nothing to add to that.

That took a long time. Hope that settles a few questions

[Chrono]

AoL happens several years after LoZ. And the first race to inhabit Hyrule was the Oocca, they supposely created the Hylians and dwell in the heavens. (noted from Twilight Princess)

[TheManInTheMoon]

Here I go again

AoL happens several years after LoZ. And the first race to inhabit Hyrule was the Oocca, they supposely created the Hylians and dwell in the heavens. (noted from Twilight Princess)

1st line: original Japanese
2nd line: translated Japanese
3rd line: NoA translation
Shad's tale of the Sky People

ボクが今、一番　興味を持っているのは　天空人の伝説さ
What I'm currently most interested in, is the legend of the sky people.
At the moment I'm absolutely entranced by the sky beings known as the Oocca.

ハイラルは最も神に近い種族のハイリア人が創ったってのが通説だけど
The common opinion is that Hyrule was created by the Hylia people, the race closest to the gods, but…
Yes, according to legend, Hyrule was made by the Hylians, who, as we all know, are the closest race to the gods.

実は大昔には、ハイリア人よりもっと神に近い種族がいて、彼らが創った　という説もあるんだ
…truth be told, there's also a theory saying that in ancient times there was a race even closer to the gods than the Hylia people, and THEY created it.
But also according to legend, long ago there was a race even closer to the gods, and some say THESE creatures made the Hylians.

そして彼らは、ハイリア人の誕生とともに　新しい都を創り、都ごと天に浮かべて　そこで暮らし 始めたらしい
And they, simultaneously with the birth of the Hylia people, created a new capital, a capital that floated in the heavens.
When they created the people of Hylia, they simultaneously created a new capital, a city that floated in the heavens.

しかも学者の間では、今でも彼らは大空の何処かに浮かぶ都で　生きているって言われてる
Moreover, there is talk between scholars that they still live with the floating capital somewhere in the great sky.
They dwelt there...and some scholars believe that this race lives there still, somewhere in the great sky.

天空人・・・素敵だよね　是非、お会いしてみたいよ
Sky people… That's great, isn't it? By all means, I really want to try and meet them!
Sky beings… Isn't that simply marvelous, old boy? What I wouldn't give to meet them!

Oocca created "Hyrule", not the hylians, which accounts for the Oocca designs in Hyrule Castle.

http://www.vgrc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=3508

[TheManInTheMoon]

“Four Swords Adventure”
Shortly after the events of “Link to the Past”, Ganon recovers from the serious injury Link IV gave him and eventually meets Vaati. The two work together to achieve their comon goal. Ganon seeks out a Trident he replicated with the Triforce in “Link to the Past”, believing that if he becomes strong enough he can take the Triforce away from Link. Link, once again,
stops him, killing him this time.

Seriously injured? He exploded.
The Ganon of FSA comes from a new Ganondorf, and he does not die at the end of the game.

[Deku Lord]

Now, what would be the purpose of having two magical blades? The Gods wouldn't see need of two magical blades, so why have them exist at the same time? And, if they for some reason did exist at the same time, why wouldn't you hear about one while on a journey with the other? One needs time to fade even from the legends for the other to have to be forged. I have a bet that the Four Sword predates the Master Sword, broke somehow, and that's why you see the broken pieces in ALttP (which comes at the end of the EDN timeline) and a broken piece (white sword) in LoZ.

But that's just my opinion.

[Forlong]

Interesting theory, Deku Lord. However, I'd have to say that the Master Sword is the more powerful sword. The Four Sword is powerful, but it's never called "the blade of evil's bain". The Four Sword can banish evil from a person, but it can't reflect evil magic like the Master Sword. Also, Vaati was able to brake that sword. Don't you think Ganon would do that to the Master Sword, if he could?