Young Zelda fans playing the oldskool zelda games.

[Onilink89]

now i was wondering, lately there are really a lot of new young zelda fans out there.
most of those young ones started with WW if my guess is right.

after TP i noticed that there were new young fans.

so my question here is:
do the young fans ever tried the old skool zelda games or would they even try it?

for instance, when i was young i started with OOT.
and later i wanted to play the old games like Alttp.
and now its even more possible with the VC on the wii.

[linkman8]

It really does depend on the person, and how devoted they are. Some would stop at TP, or maybe play WW. On the other hand, we'd have people who would be interested in finding the roots of TP and check out the older games with enthusiasm; kind of like us.
Some people however are easily swayed by graphics, so they wouldn't play older games, but luckily I don't know many people like that.

[Mehplep]

...but luckily I don't know many people like that.

The I envy you... I have about three friends, maybe, that enjoy playing games on older consoles like NES and Genesis. The rest that play games base their opinion of a game or console simply by the graphics. And other completely stupid things. For instance, I have a friend that don't know if he's gonna buy a 360 or not. His pros (pro?) are that Gears have cool graphics, his cons (con?) is that the processors are loud. He can discuss a whole freaking lunch like "Yeah, think I'm gonna buy 360. Gears looks sweet. But it sounds alot... but still, gears looks sweet. But I'll rather have a jet motor in my room..." I seriously just want to punch him in the face sometimes.

Oh, but anyway, back to topic.

I think it's kinda obvious that there are newer fans to the series that enjoy the newer games but haven't played the older ones. Almost every kid today gets sumkinda gaming console nowdays, handheld or console, and they'll play some games to it. And naturally, casual gamers will have some launchtitles, a couple of moive-based crappy games and one or two popular games. For the GCN and Wii, almost everyone owns a copy of TP or TWW with it. And we all know what have happened to the industry lately, and more specific Nintendo: it have become more appealing for the casual gamers. I.e. all games are easier.

I know a casual gamer (note that it's a she too... just for being more cliché) that owns a Wii, and she have a hard time beating the first temple in TP. Heck, she can't even get more that ten stars in URMRGAY. Imagine if I would let her play AoL. She would probably spend five minutes figuring out how to exit North Palace and then die in the first combat. Yeah...

Games simply are easier nowdays. And people that are introduced to franchises today are getting used to easier games. And adding on 8-bit graphics and storys that are often written in the manuals, older games arent just as fun as the new ones are to newer gamers. I grew up in the N64-era, and 3D-platformers are my childhood experience of gaming. It was somewhere there games started to get easier. I personally think it was the jump into 3D that made everything easier... but yeah. I think you all get my point.

[Smitie]

but luckily I don't know many people like that.

here is one, I started with OoT, but i never had the need to play the older zeldagames. I never liked 2d games for some reason, but maybe i try Alttp, because everyone is talking about it and comparing it with other zeldagames.

[linkman8]

Well when I say that some people are swayed by graphics, I mean people who play games solely for the graphics. I mean, everyone likes nice graphics, but when has any of us played a game entirely for graphics as apposed to its fun factor? Never.

Anyway, I can see how the lack of "modern technology" could potentially turn newer gamers away from older gamers, but that's why they're not true fans.

[Onilink89]

Well when I say that some people are swayed by graphics, I mean people who play games solely for the graphics. I mean, everyone likes nice graphics, but when has any of us played a game entirely for graphics as apposed to its fun factor? Never.

Anyway, I can see how the lack of "modern technology" could potentially turn newer gamers away from older gamers, but that's why they're not true fans.

interesting quote
to be honest, at first i didn 't want to bother to play Alttp after i played oot and mm
but still, i was curious, and really, it may be 2D, it was a great game that i really enjoyed as much as the n64 zelda titles.

[linkman8]

Anyway, I can see how the lack of "modern technology" could potentially turn newer gamers away from older gamers, but that's why they're not true fans.
Oops, that's a typo, I meant to say "turn newer gamers away from older games". Sorry 'bout that.

[Y2K3]

Anyway, I can see how the lack of "modern technology" could potentially turn newer gamers away from older gamers
I deffinately agree with this. It's not even just newer gamers though, but some older as well. One of my old friends, who's a year older than me, was turned away from the original just because of the lack of the 'modern-ness' that OoT and MM had (This was about 5 or 6 years ago). Though, like newer gamers, he had never played anything before OoT.

[Avenged]

Graphics do not define a game, they enhance it, but not define. If you think so then you FAIL.

[Smitie]

I don't play the newer zeldagames because of the graphics. I just don't play the older zeldagames because I never felt the need to play them. Call me a fake zeldafan, well you have a point, but I don't think the word zeldafan depends on how many zelda titles you played.
another thing is that most new gamers never heard of a nes or snes, so to play the older zeldagames they have to buy a nes or gameboy or download programms (forgot the name) to play them.

[Avenged]

You are actually very wrong. If I recall all the old school Zelda games have been ported to the Wii VC and the GBA. If you dont see a point in playing them, then yes I dont consider you a true fan. Without knowing what Zelda originally was and just base any theories on the newer games is being quite close minded.

Every Zelda game is unique in its own way and most fans, including myself, think 'A Link to the Past' is the greatest Zelda to date. I mean, you (not you specifically, but all newbies) dont even know (or have absolute knowledge of except for reading about it) what the original theme music is or what a beamblade attack is or even what Spectacle Rock is. The first 3 titles is what started the series and what gave the generation of Zelda titles its formula.

Everything that makes Zelda great is in the early 2D titles, all OoT did was pretty much remake the past titles and threw in a new storyline, and even took out a few of the original aspects since there was a new 'director' in the game, Eiji Aonuma. Thats when he started, during the development of Ocarina of Time. Shigeru Miyamoto started losing more and more input since OoT.

Sorry, I just find it being very closed minded not to 'waste your time' with the older titles just how I feel for us veterans as some don't bother with the newer titles. Yes some of us are 2D people and some are 3D, but that really has nothing to do with the game itself. Although the original Legend of Zelda had little to no technology compared to say Twilight Princess, I still think it had better and harder puzzles/dungeons. Technonlogy doesnt make a Zelda game, gameplay does...this isnt Halo or any other 360 titles we're speaking of here.

@ Smitie - btw, what you're thinking of is EMULATION and ROMS.

[Smitie]

The only thing that's close minded here is your way of posting.
it's always 'my opinion is the best and everyone who doesn't agree with me is a noob'. You can call it sarcasm or the thruth, but i think it's simply a lack of respect for someone's opinion. Although I don't totally agree with you about the meaning of a zeldafan, at least I have respect for your ideas. This irritates me for quite some time and i'm glad i finally said it.

[Avenged]

I didnt call you a noob nor do I disrespect your opinion. I simply said I look down on your opinion, which is also my opinion. Sorry Im just one to think that the original Zeldas is what created it all and what was best with the series. I mean if a normal 'new' formula such as LoZ created the huge generation of the legenadary series, then I think its worth to play, generalize, become acustom to, and even critic. But to critic something when it has never been experienced by the critic is just pathetic.

So, even though you've heard so much praise and little critic to the old school...you should still play so you can both be caught up with the vets if you wish and/or for you personal reasons due to loving the Zelda series.

Remember if it wasnt for the supposely half assed games known as The Legend of Zelda and The Adventure of Link...we wouldnt have Zelda AT ALL today.

[DarkLink]

This thread definitely applies to me. I would consider myself a young Zelda fan.
And you're right, the first Zelda game I played was Wind Waker. I actually have a story about that.

One time my mom and I were at Blockbuster looking at video games to rent. That was right when Wind Waker came out. I was aware of the Zelda games and remember seeing OoT and MM in Blockbuster many times but I never really gave the series a chance for some reason, I don't know, I guess I thought it was weird or something. My mom saw WW and thought it looked cool and showed it to me and I reluctantly agreed. I played it and instantly loved it and have been an avid fan ever since. What's funny is my mom was the one who introduced me to the Zelda series.

About playing oldschool Zelda games, that also applies to me as I am currently playing LOZ, AOL and ALttP on my Wii.

[Twilight warrior]

OK see when I was really little (6 years old) I started with OoT then I got ALttP for my GBA after a couple years. Then I played WW after another few years now I'm not really playing Zelda right now actually.

[Linkhugger]

The first Zelda game (and incidentally my first EVER game) was Legend of Zelda - Links Awakening.

Its quite funny, I always thought Link was Zelda. Don't have a go at me or something, its because Zelda, of course, wasn't in that game, and I had no instruction book or guide. Its my favourite game I've ever played though ~

Unfortunatly, I have never played any other Zelda games untill Twilight Princess - I've never owned a N64 or a Gamcube, so I never played or seen OoT, MM, or WW. I love both LA and TP - Graphics have never bothered me.

I have to say though, I managed to get hold of an emulator with OoT and MM - and I was quite shocked when I first saw what Link looked like. But now I look past that - I see the storyline as the main thing, and I find the graphics quite fun now! I don't like those that say "I want this becuase the graphics are better than this", surely its the game that makes the difference?

Actually, I also feel the need to say that LA took me much longer to complete than any other Zelda game. PH took me two days.

New Zelda fans should try the old ones. They are what made Zelda what it is today.

[Shadow Goris]

I don't mind about graphics. I think about the fun factor and dificulty. See, my story is odd. I actually started zelda on a system you would never think of....an xbox! Gamestop downloaded a bunch of emulators. I started out with oot but the controls were screwed up. So i saw MM, i beat the first dungeon but the game glitched up. I then saw the original. Played it died. Saw aol, played it died. I saw Alttp, i played it and liked it but i saw kirby nightmare in dream land and paper mario and got hooked up with those. beat kirby and my bro.s beat mario. I forgot all about zelda. Then later my sister's friend gave her a gameboy with MC on it. Me and my bro's loved it. however we got stuck before the temple of droplets. but geus what? A hired painter stole it! Eventually i got a gamecube. I love my gamecube...my bro got mario sunshine and luigi's mansion for his birthday. Sunshine sucked, so we returned it and got WW. Beat it love. We got another gameboy and got minish cap. Got a wii and got TP and oot. So in other words, i'm all over the place. I don't mind about graphics but like the funfacter better. However i see what you mean about the new game dificulty level. Mind you that i was relly young when i had the xbox, and by the way it died a year or two ago.we took it apart...heehee...if i played the original and the second and third, i would be able to beat them but with somework.

[Matthew_79]

I grew up in the transition between 2d and 3d....
I remeber when i said a Well drawn 2d is way better then a poorly made 3d (most of them back then XD) Althought I never owned any game systems, i was a PC gamer. I was introduced to zelda buy a freind and we played OoT at his house alot. Now that i have gotten older, 3d games are much more apealing to me, I dont enjoy 2d as much, but I still play them.

Whenever I play any Franchise I love playing its roots... .Usually suck at them though.

[Onilink89]

well grapics or not, i noticed one thing.
you get a whole different feel with 2d zelda games that i can 't explain in words.
hopefully in the future they would release a 2d zelda game again, and i don 't mean a mix of 3D with 2D gamplay link PH. but really 2D

[El Bagu]

Graphics do not define a game, they enhance it, but not define. If you think so then you FAIL.

You seem to have a point there!

[Leix]

I actually started with Majora's Mask, because it came bundled with my N64(bought used, obviously) along with Kirby, Perfect Dark, OoT and some others. And then I realized that I was playing the sequel, and should go back. So then I did OoT, and ended up at ALttP. That was as far back as I could go until they rereleased LoZ for the GBA, which I bought alongside the Oracles. And then I got WW, and finally with the Wii upgrade I recieved TP. Then I could go back and play the classics because of the VC.

If you ask me, a Zelda fan is not dependent on how many games theyve played, it's determined by how passionate they are about Zelda. If they become really connected to it, they go back as far as they can... unfortunatley, I've only seen people who owned an NES buy the VC Zelda. Alot of little kids who weren't around the day 2D died haven't got much respect for it. I know that if i introduce LoZ to my younger 3D gamer cousin, he'd get bored with it after talking to the old man.

The one thing that i've noticed setting 2D and 3D apart in Zelda is the companion. In every 3D game, you have a companion to navigate you and help you out. (Navi, Tatl, Midna, Fairy in PH). You lack that kind of introduction in games like Loz and ALttP. They're not as scenic due to the limits of 2D, and sort of just throw you in the game like "Here's a sword and a hat! Go figure out what to do next!"

[Kybyrian]

I first started with Ocarina of Time, and then my second Zelda game was Oracle of Ages, then Seasons, then A Link to the Past. Then I started playing games after Ocarina of Time. I personally think most of the older games are better than some of the new ones. Most people I know don't think so though. A lot of people that I know don't play them because of the graphics and they're "too hard".

[blackice_cc]

I started with LA when my brother and I got the original GB. I really liked it, and we eventually got a GBC, and OoA. OoA proved very difficult, but I soon mastered it after a few play throughs, and then me and my friend got a N64. We were looking for good games for it, and I thought of OoT, so we decided to buy it. MM soon followed. I recently downloaded LoZ from zeldaclassic.com, and I've wanted to play ALttP and AoL, but haven't gotten around to it. Hopefully I'll be able to buy the GBA ports of them.

[chrisbg99]

Looking at some of your ages makes me feel like an old fart. I know my back certainly does.

But I think it is important for younger gamers who were born after the 8-bit/16-bit era (or were too young to appreciate them) to play some of them and see where the modern era of gaming started. As a history major I believe understanding the past is very important in understanding the present and the future. This applies to games and the real world

I mean I love playing the older school arcade games from before I was born. Pac-Man, Donkey Kong, Space Invaders, Asteroids, Missile Command, etc. are all great games and it is a shame to not appreciate them just because they are old.

And for you younger guys, trust me, you'll want the future gamers to appreciate the games you grew up on just as much as many of us older guys.

[Onilink89]

Looking at some of your ages makes me feel like an old fart. I know my back certainly does.

But I think it is important for younger gamers who were born after the 8-bit/16-bit era (or were too young to appreciate them) to play some of them and see where the modern era of gaming started. As a history major I believe understanding the past is very important in understanding the present and the future. This applies to games and the real world

I mean I love playing the older school arcade games from before I was born. Pac-Man, Donkey Kong, Space Invaders, Asteroids, Missile Command, etc. are all great games and it is a shame to not appreciate them just because they are old.

And for you younger guys, trust me, you'll want the future gamers to appreciate the games you grew up on just as much as many of us older guys.

don 't worry i'm sure you are not the only one, i respect people that still likes to game dispite their age. but i see myself still gaming even when i grow older. thats what i like about nintendo, they didn 't focus one the gamers group only but also on the adult group.

but the young zelda fans now also have acces to those old skool zelda games with VC on the wii. now i'm not saying something like, that if you don 't like 1 zelda game you are not a true fan or something, but i respect young zelda fans who are open to play the old zelda games if they can.

[Josh]

For me it went:

Ocarina of Time
A Link to the Past
Wind Waker
Link's Awakening
Twilight Princess
Legend of Zelda
Adventure of Link


So I have attempted the older ones, I have beaten LoZ but not AoL. Never got back to completing that one.

[chrisbg99]

don 't worry i'm sure you are not the only one, i respect people that still likes to game dispite their age. but i see myself still gaming even when i grow older. thats what i like about nintendo, they didn 't focus one the gamers group only but also on the adult group.

Oh I fully intend to play video games as long as my mind and body will let me. In fact I want to one day in my old age get a rocking chair set it outside a gamestore (providing there are any by then and revile the youngins with stories of how things used to be and how they were better. Just to be annoying.

"Danged kids! Back in my dad we didn't have super realistic virtual reality with ultra sensory feedback. We had pixelated squares that sorta resembled a person and WE LIKED IT!"

but the young zelda fans now also have acces to those old skool zelda games with VC on the wii. now i'm not saying something like, that if you don 't like 1 zelda game you are not a true fan or something, but i respect young zelda fans who are open to play the old zelda games if they can.

I agree that they don't have to think that they are the greatest games ever but just give them a shot and maybe they'll find themselves enjoying it. And if anything understanding why so many NES games were so important to evolution of gaming.