Termina Bay Theory

[ZeroLink]

This might be a stretch, but I was thinking, what if Termina Bay isn't an alternate Hyrule at all, but one of the islands from the Wind Waker era? I haven't played Majora's Mask, but is there any evidence to prove or disprove this theory?

[TheManInTheMoon]

Majora's Mask takes place in the Child Timeline, whilst the flood occurs in the Adult Timeline.

[ZeroLink]

True.
The timelines confuse me.

[zeypherlink]

Majora's Mask takes place in the Child Timeline, whilst the flood occurs in the Adult Timeline.
True, but that doesn't mean that Termina doesn't exist in the Adult Timeline.

[TheManInTheMoon]

True, but that doesn't mean that Termina doesn't exist in the Adult Timeline.
I never said that it didn't, I just said it does not exist as it does (as seen in MM) because of the great flood

[Jirrup]

This might be a stretch, but I was thinking, what if Termina Bay isn't an alternate Hyrule at all, but one of the islands from the Wind Waker era? I haven't played Majora's Mask, but is there any evidence to prove or disprove this theory?

Yes, I can disprove your suggestion. Great Bay is connected to the rest of Termina, which appears to be beneath Hyrule (judging by the fact that Young Link fell a long way from the Lost Woods to get there). The islands in The Wind Waker are the tips of Hyrule's mountains.

Though the vases in Windfall Island's House of Wealth bear a design not unlike the Great Bay...

[Avenged]

Jirrup, its not below Hyrule, Termina is a parrelell world of Hyrule. ZeroLink, play the game and you'll know that Majora's Mask is a direct sequal to Ocarina of Time and it is Young Link that embarks on that adventure.

[Jirrup]

Jirrup, its not below Hyrule, Termina is a parrelell world of Hyrule.

I'll try and argue my point. In one of Granny's stories, it says that the Skull Kid ascended to the heavens after the Four Giants told him to begone. Ascending the same path Young Link fell would lead him up to the Hyrule Lost Woods, where he lives in OoT, and ambushes the Happy Mask Salesman (and later Link).

Even if I'm wrong, and Termina is parallel, there's no way it could connect to the Great Sea.

[Avenged]

It says Termina is in fact a parallel universe in the STORYLINE. It doesnt have to look exactly like Hyrule, just have familiar places and characters. Kinda like LA, didnt it really happen or was it all a dream. Yea Koholint Island is the dreaming island, but dreams can be real...for those that have done LSD know what I'm talkin about, haha anyways. Now, we can debate about Holodrum and Labrynna almost to the same extent. The only true countries outside of Hyrule was Calatia in which Link never visited in any game.

[Deku Lord]

Also the kingdom of Crandal.

Anyway, Holodrum an Labrynna were almost certainly in the same dimension, seeing as the prologue doesn't look like the following at all...

Quote from Collectors Edition instruction booklet:
Having waged his battlles across time to defeat the evil Ganon and restore peace to Hyrule, Link departed from the land that made him a legend. On a personal journey in search of a beloved and invaluable friend, Link was waylaid while traveling through the Lost Woods, and his horse and precious Ocarina were stolen from him. His pursuit of the villain led him into the strange, parallel world of Termina, where he found his fate tied to its impending doom...

[ZeroLink]

I know that Young Link is the main character of MM. I know that he goes through a portal to another world, and when I was thinking about it, it sounded very much like the portal through the Temple of Time that Link used in Ocarina of Time. And if that were the case, it seemed as though the portal could be a link to several centuries into the future. If this were the case, it would be a warning of sorts to Link: this is what the future of Hyrule is. It will flood, people will die, and it will result in a new world.
I mean, I understand that it doesn't really work, but it would explain what Termina is. It would explain why it seems so similar to Hyrule, because it really is. Just in the future.

[BlueLink57]

Termina wasn't ugly and evil after the end of MM, what was bad about it, the moon didn't crash.

[Aerostella]

Termina wasn't ugly and evil after the end of MM, what was bad about it, the moon didn't crash.
This is what was bad about it:

http://www.halolz.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/happymoon.jpg

:xd: But seriously. It couldn't be a TWW Island because as other people have said, Link is just going to a parallel universe.

[DarkLink]

What do you mean Termina Bay? It's just called Termina. It does have the Great Bay, but the whole land is just called Termina.

It's said that when Hyrule was created, many alternate worlds were created so my guess is that Termina is another dimension, not at all connected to the Great Sea. But then again, GREAT Bay, GREAT Sea. Hmm. Maybe Termina is connected to the Great Sea and when Skull Kid ambushed Link and Link followed him he took him to the future where Hyrule is flooded and Termina is one of the Islands. What would be really cool would be if there was another game in the Wind Waker storyline and in it Link and Tetra find that "new land" they're looking for and it's Termina. Then we could see Termina in cel shaded graphics. Just a thought.

[Avenged]

No...Link was in old Hyrule at the start of MM. Termina Bay is the Great Bay.

Also at the theory that Termina is future Hyrule before the Gods flooded it...well that almost makes sense except the Gods flooded Hyrule, they didnt throw a moon at it. Plus, thanks to Link, the moon didn't crash into Hyrule and TWW still occured, no connection.

[blackice_cc]

I know that Young Link is the main character of MM. I know that he goes through a portal to another world, and when I was thinking about it, it sounded very much like the portal through the Temple of Time that Link used in Ocarina of Time. And if that were the case, it seemed as though the portal could be a link to several centuries into the future. If this were the case, it would be a warning of sorts to Link: this is what the future of Hyrule is. It will flood, people will die, and it will result in a new world.
I mean, I understand that it doesn't really work, but it would explain what Termina is. It would explain why it seems so similar to Hyrule, because it really is. Just in the future.

If the portal that link went through in MM is just like the one in OoT with the master sword, then link would die going through it as he would age while in the portal as in OoT.

[Inflexus]

It must be a parallel universe, but this brings on a new question:

If one went to Hyrule as it was underwater in WW, could they navigate through the lost woods and find the portal to take them to Termina? Would there be a flood there? What would happen with a several hundred year time skip and an act of mass destruction on one of the parallel worlds? Would it affect the other one at all?

This could make this topic a whole lot more interesting.

[Twili123prince]

wow confusing timlines destroy

[Leix]

I wanted to ask what Inflexus asked since I started reading this topic.
Termina would be flooded as well, right? The water would cover all of the forest, thus making it's way into the hole wherest Link fell, through the windy path, and into the clock tower, flooding out into the world? Or would the water just all disappear in the floorless room. Or is the floorless room even floorless at all?
I say, a Zora mask coulda made Wind Waker a whole lot more interesting.

Another question I had is this: Why is there a lack of Gorons and Zora in WW?
The Zora now have a vast space to swim around, wouldn 't they ever try to surface?
And the Gorons have always lived up high in the mountains. Why aren't they in Dragon Roost, the presumed remnants of Death Mountain?

[blackice_cc]

Well, I have no idea about the Zoras, but in WW the traveling merchants (you know, the ones that the trading sequence involves) are actually Gorons, and Gorons are in PH. If we assume that the four quadrants in PH are just more parts of the great sea, then some Gorons had just stayed on their mountain top as all of the world flooded. If not, well, Gorons are reduced to just traveling merchants.

[Mastersworddude]

I wanted to ask what Inflexus asked since I started reading this topic.
Termina would be flooded as well, right? The water would cover all of the forest, thus making it's way into the hole wherest Link fell, through the windy path, and into the clock tower, flooding out into the world? Or would the water just all disappear in the floorless room. Or is the floorless room even floorless at all?
I say, a Zora mask coulda made Wind Waker a whole lot more interesting.

Another question I had is this: Why is there a lack of Gorons and Zora in WW?
The Zora now have a vast space to swim around, wouldn 't they ever try to surface?
And the Gorons have always lived up high in the mountains. Why aren't they in Dragon Roost, the presumed remnants of Death Mountain?Well i don't think water will be able to flood another dimension, also maybe link did not enter termina when he fell maybe he entered it in the twisting room.

[Leix]

It works like a cork in a bowl of water. Bowl is Hyrule, and water is the flood. The way to Termina is a cork that's been pulled.
Even if it dosen't flood both dimensions, It should still remove the mass entity that the flood was.

[Onilink89]

timeline or no timeline, its impossible that termina is some kind of island in WW.
main reason, Termina is just a other dimension, and hyrule is sealed beneath the great sea.

but leix does have a point, the flood could have accurd all the way to lost woods, maybe even made it to termina. but that doesn 't make termina one of the islands.