Link's Awakening Placement

[Mases]

Okay, this is something that I never truly understand when it comes to timeline theories and all. From what I've heard (I think it was officially confirmed at one point or another), is that Link's Awakening is a direct sequel to A Link to the Past. Am I wrong? Can somebody clarify if there was some official mention of this, or possible where this rumor came from?

However, in many timeline theories, I see Link's Awakening and A Link to the Past in two separate timelines. (The split timeline). I just don't get it.

This perhaps could lead to what 'facts' are REALLY 'true'. For example, Phantom Hourglass is clearly a direct sequel to Wind Waker. Majora's Mask is clearly a direct sequel to Ocarina of Time. (Child Link if you want to go in more detail). Adventure of Link is a sequel to Legend of Zelda, right?

As I'm no expert as many other timeline theorists are, I feel that there should be a basis of what is REALLY fact and what is just fiction.

[Jirrup]

I think it was intended as a direct sequel, judging by the game's artwork and logo design. I bought my copy without a box or intruction book, so I don't know of any evidence from either of those.

But yeah. I use the term "intended" because (following a single timeline) I think that the Oracle series were placed in between ALTTP and LA. Though I'm not sure. I don't understand the Split either.

Hope I helped.

[Fierce_Deity]

Am I the only one who assumed the oracle games were a direct sequel to Majora's Mask? What with the fact that Majora's Mask ended with Link riding away from Termina on horse and that the oracle games begin with young Link traveling by horse before he is unexpectedly teleported to Labrynna/Holodrum.


There's always the possibility that Link's Awakening is a direct sequel to the oracle games, considering that a continued game ends in Link sailing away on a boat looking oddly similar to the boat he used to sail to Koholint Island, but this is arguable, because I think it was confirmed that, at one point or another, Link defeated Ganon, and directly afterwards he set sail to lands unknown, seeking the answer to Hyrule's current situation. There was never anything said about him searching for his fairy, and then saving three distant lands from total destruction. The most logical placement for LA is after AlttP, making the oracle games a cliffhanger.

[PrinceofDarkness]

Am I the only one who assumed the oracle games were a direct sequel to Majora's Mask? What with the fact that Majora's Mask ended with Link riding away from Termina on horse and that the oracle games begin with young Link traveling by horse before he is unexpectedly teleported to Labrynna/Holodrum.




not unless link is in the golden land in the beginning of them. But the sky didn't look gold so I assumed he was still in hyrule.

[TheManInTheMoon]

There's a big flaw in the ALttP - OoX - LA progression, as the Zelda of OoX does not recognize link, which leaves us with two options.
1. The connection between LA and ALttP has been severed
2. The connection between OoX and LA is coincidental/meaningless
Due to the numerous similarities and connections (http://zelda.vgrc.net/bombers.php?subaction=showfull&id=1191564000&archive=&start_from=&ucat=7&) between ALttP and LA and the many meaningless connections OoX establishes (to OoT and MM especially, OoX has an identical hyrule castle to OoT) I'd still go with option 1.
Also, OoX does fit comfortably (http://zelda.vgrc.net/bombers.php?subaction=showfull&id=1184545576&archive=&start_from=&ucat=7&) after AoL as well [/shameless plugs]
not unless link is in the golden land in the beginning of them. But the sky didn't look gold so I assumed he was still in hyrule.The triforce wasn't in the SR during MM, as the child end of OoT shows link with the ToC.

[PrinceofDarkness]

The triforce wasn't in the SR during MM, as the child end of OoT shows link with the ToC.

It does can you show a screenshot please if it's not too much trouble cuz I just watched the ending again and totally missed it.

[TheManInTheMoon]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=cfg3_UpjWTw&feature=related
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/8067/tocph2.jpg

[Jirrup]

not unless link is in the golden land in the beginning of them. But the sky didn't look gold so I assumed he was still in hyrule.

That's why I think the Oracle series come after ALTTP. Link claimed the full Triforce at the end of ALTTP, and was presumably checking on it when it dropped him abroad. After defeating a mindless Ganon, he sailed back to Hyrule, and his boat was wrecked on Koholint.

Though Zelda's unfamiliarity with Link in the Oracle series pokes a lovely big hole in that theory...

[PrinceofDarkness]

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/8067/tocph2.jpg

Ah thank you, totally didn't see it the first few times I went back and watched it. It may not be that all 3 of them possess the triforce though in the child timeline, link's may have still remained because he was destined to weild the triforce of courage like in AoL. Zelda's would probably still be on her hand too in that case.

That's why I think the Oracle series come after ALTTP. Link claimed the full Triforce at the end of ALTTP, and was presumably checking on it when it dropped him abroad. After defeating a mindless Ganon, he sailed back to Hyrule, and his boat was wrecked on Koholint.

Though Zelda's unfamiliarity with Link in the Oracle series pokes a lovely big hole in that theory...

That would be awesome I'd love to put the games in that order if only Zelda and link didn't act like they never saw each other before. :(

[TheManInTheMoon]

That would be awesome I'd love to put the games in that order if only Zelda and link didn't act like they never saw each other before.I've had the suspicision that it may not play out the same way in the japanese version, but I've never had the resources to check.

[PrinceofDarkness]

I've had the suspicision that it may not play out the same way in the japanese version, but I've never had the resources to check.

I'll look around for translated roms of both games and play through them and see if the ending has any differences.

[Avenged]

Okay, this is something that I never truly understand when it comes to timeline theories and all. From what I've heard (I think it was officially confirmed at one point or another), is that Link's Awakening is a direct sequel to A Link to the Past. Am I wrong? Can somebody clarify if there was some official mention of this, or possible where this rumor came from?

However, in many timeline theories, I see Link's Awakening and A Link to the Past in two separate timelines. (The split timeline). I just don't get it.

This perhaps could lead to what 'facts' are REALLY 'true'. For example, Phantom Hourglass is clearly a direct sequel to Wind Waker. Majora's Mask is clearly a direct sequel to Ocarina of Time. (Child Link if you want to go in more detail). Adventure of Link is a sequel to Legend of Zelda, right?

As I'm no expert as many other timeline theorists are, I feel that there should be a basis of what is REALLY fact and what is just fiction.

LA is a true ALttP sequal. It is not rumor.

[zeypherlink]

I believe that LA places after the Oracle games (or before, possibly).
Here's my reason why: In LA, one of the Windfish Nightmares was Aghnaim, and the Windfish Nightmares were enemies Link had fought...so that means ALttP Link = LA Link. So sometime after ALttP, Link is called to Holodrum and Labryyna, then he sails on his way back to Hyrule, thus making LA happen...

But as Moon said...the Zelda in OoA/OoS doesn't seem to know Link...so that presents a uge hole in this placement.

[Avenged]

Ganon also died for 'good' in the original LoZ. Plus it has already been confirmed ever since 1993 that LA is a direct sequal to ALttP.

[zeypherlink]

Ganon also died for 'good' in the original LoZ. Plus it has already been confirmed ever since 1993 that LA is a direct sequal to ALttP.
Yeah, that's why LoZ and AoL are placed last.

And I was thinking about this...

Maybe an event happens before ALttP and LA, and that game goes before the Oracles...so it could go like this:

Unconfirmed game -> OoA/OoS -> ALttP -> LA

Then that would explain why Zelda doesn't know Link in OoA/OoS, and it would explain why Zelda telepathically messages Link in ALttP (because they met in the Oracle games).

Either that or the Oracles don't fit anywhere...

[Avenged]

I always thought the Oracles could be placed after AoL, but you never know. Those games seem like they can fit almost anywhere. But yeah, it seemed Link and Zelda already knew eachother in ALttP...

[zeypherlink]

Wait...maybe the Oracles do place after LoZ and AoL...that would explain why Koume and Kotake are reviving Ganon/dorf (since he was killed by Link in LoZ).

Then to explain why Link and Zelda seem to know eachother in ALttP, we can fit TMC and FSA right before ALttP and LA.
So the Links in those 4 games would be the same...and I think it makes more sense, because if you recall in LA, one of the Windfish Nightmares ressembles Vaati, and the Windfish Nightmares are supposed to be enemies that Link has already fought.

[Avenged]

Yeah that makes more sense due to the recent ALttP remake with the secret four sword dungeon. I still dont think TMC can be the first Zelda.

[zeypherlink]

I don't think TMC is the first Zelda either.

But wait...I think we've ran into a problem. If the Split Timeline is true, then LoZ and AoL place in the Adult Timeline, while TMC, FSA, ALttP, and LA place in the Child Timeline...thus it would be impossible for the Oracles to go with TMC, FSA, ALttP, and LA if they come after LoZ and AoL, which are in the other timeline...

EDIT- wait...nvm...I confused my self a little there...

[The Zelda Master]

I don't think Zelda knew Link that well in ALttP.

Think about it, Link's uncle also got the telepathic help plea, so perhaps she was sending a cry for help from anyone related to one of the Hylian Knights of old.

If she knew Link that well, she wouldn't say "I am a prisoner in the dungeon of the castle. My name is Zelda."
Arguably, she does address the green-garbed one as Link once he disposes of the Ball and Chain Trooper.

that could easily be seen as he had answered telipathically as well, as it is implied in severla of the zelda games (OoT notably) that he can see things like zelda, maybe speaking back wouldnt be too difficult.


he's gotta speak somhow xp

[linksocarina]

I think that Link's Awakining is a game with no other connections.How could the two games connect?I see no same story.It can't be possible.

[Mehplep]

I think that Link's Awakining is a game with no other connections.How could the two games connect?I see no same story.It can't be possible.

Err, witch two are you talking about? And if you didn't know... spoiler... the whole story in Link's Awakening was just a dream. So the only thing that is needed to place LA in the timeline is that Link was in another land before... witch he have been several times.

[Avenged]

I think that Link's Awakining is a game with no other connections.How could the two games connect?I see no same story.It can't be possible.


What are you talking about? Links Awakening takes place directly after ALttP, it is proven (try reading a storyline once in your life people!), Im done saying it to all the newbies...its annoying.

[Matthew_79]

Quote:
"Originally Posted by Jirrup
I don't think Zelda knew Link that well in ALttP.

Think about it, Link's uncle also got the telepathic help plea, so perhaps she was sending a cry for help from anyone related to one of the Hylian Knights of old.

If she knew Link that well, she wouldn't say "I am a prisoner in the dungeon of the castle. My name is Zelda."
Arguably, she does address the green-garbed one as Link once he disposes of the Ball and Chain Trooper."





that could easily be seen as he had answered telipathically as well, as it is implied in severla of the zelda games (OoT notably) that he can see things like zelda, maybe speaking back wouldnt be too difficult.


he's gotta speak somhow xp


Lets not forget that link hasnt met Zelda yet in that timeline, Jirrup.
He went back to being a kid at the end of OoT and then MM happoned, So like has no idea who zelda is.


I have played halfway through LA but couldent it be placed anywhere, he is taking a boat by himself, storm, link gets knocked out, LA, link wakes up on driftwood.

Also I Can easly see it being placed right before LoZ, why else would he have gone to hyrule w/o any equips

[dark_link01]

Lets not forget that link hasnt met Zelda yet in that timeline, Jirrup.
He went back to being a kid at the end of OoT and then MM happoned, So like has no idea who zelda is.


You may need to watch the ending of OoT again. Link goes to the courtyard after he returns to his kid life and meets Zelda. Its the very last scene of the game. Majora's Mask didn't take place as soon as Ocarina of Time ended.