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Mases
04-23-2008, 12:01 PM
Before getting into the next Alliance site, I'd like to give a mention of a few minor changes that have been going on at the site. With the change in direction of Zelda Dungeon, our staff openings page has also changed. The page was a bit outdated but it has since been updated. While we are not in dire need of any new staff members at the moment, we are currently accepting applications for any writers who are interested in helping out Zelda Dungeon with game guides. Specifically, we are in need of help for the Wind Waker and a few of the handheld titles. The main reason we are in need of some assistance is simply time. Currently Caleb is fine tuning our next layout in addition to working on the Ocarina of Time walkthrough, while I'm currently working on various projects, one being a Twilight Princess Walkthrough. Both of these projects will likely last much of the next several months, but there are still other games out there that need attention and need it now. Thus, if you are interested in helping us out, check out the staff openings page for more details. Be sure that we won't just put you to work on long tedious projects, but rather we will work together to accomplish our goals and better the overall content at Zelda Dungeon.

Now to our newest member of the Zelda Dungeon Alliance, the Zelda Wiki. Some of you might recall a post I made here at the site some several months ago when I voiced my displeasure with the Zelda Wiki over a few of the behind the scenes politics. This led to ZD's departure from the Zelda Wiki and also led to a few other sites working together to possibly release a new Zelda based Encyclopedia. Word of this project had gotten out to the Zelda Wiki members and changes were made to accommodate many of the complaints we had. While I do not know the status of the other project I briefly mentioned, I feel that it fully served its purpose as it has led to a big improvement at the Zelda Wiki in terms of policy and identity. I strongly encourage any Zelda site, big, small, new, or old to look into joining the Zelda Wiki to help furthering the project.

So for those of you who are unfamiliar with the Zelda Wiki, perhaps a more detailed description is need. It is a collaborated project amongst several Zelda sites to create the definitive Zelda Encyclopedia on the web. It originally was a subsidiary Wiki of Zelda Universe, but soon branched off a few years back and now serves as the Wiki for 7 Legend of Zelda fan sites. It is filled with over 2500 different articles with these covering the enemies, locations, items, characters, games, and basically anything you can think of in the Zelda series. While it is the largest encyclopedia on the net, it is still in need of a lot of work. One of the benefits of the Zelda Wiki is that it is run on the MediaWiki software, much like Wikipedia. What this means is that anybody who takes all of 30 seconds to register on the Wiki has the ability to edit articles at the site. With the entire community working together on the Wiki, articles are constantly being updated and the quality of the Wiki is always improving.

Here at Zelda Dungeon, we will be sponsoring specific projects to help improve overall quality of the Wiki. One of the projects I'm currently working on is managing the improvement of the enemy pages from the original Legend of Zelda for the NES. I'm also going to be working to help spread the word of the Wiki and gain any additional supporting sites. I have a lot more to talk about with the Zelda Wiki over the next few months, but for now, I'd just like to give a formal welcome to Zelda Wiki as the 8th member of the Zelda Dungeon Alliance.

Staff Openings - http://www.zeldadungeon.net/StaffOpenings.php
Zelda Wiki - http://zeldawiki.org/Main_Page

Avenged
04-23-2008, 05:23 PM
*sighs* Maybe I really dont want to be part of this alliance. First I thought you meant the project wiki you were working on. But nope, its the damned ZU one that you flamed only God knows how many times. So what...can anyone just become a part of this so called alliance now?

Swiftblade
04-23-2008, 05:48 PM
*sighs* Maybe I really dont want to be part of this alliance. First I thought you meant the project wiki you were working on. But nope, its the damned ZU one that you flamed only God knows how many times. So what...can anyone just become a part of this so called alliance now?

I thought the same thing...

zeypherlink
04-23-2008, 08:03 PM
I wanna join!
jk

Aww man...I thought we were gonna go with the Almanac :/

Anyway...When is the new layout gonna be up?

Caleb
04-24-2008, 12:25 PM
Anyway...When is the new layout gonna be up?

A few weeks. Basically, we got most everything set up the way we wanted, but the file size was immense, making the load time rediculess. So we're working to reduce that and change a few things in the process.

When we do launch Layout 16, I'll post pictures of the other layout we were working on.

Avenged
04-24-2008, 01:27 PM
Yes, the other layout in which they're going to be stealing..cough I mean using my new menu.

Judai
04-25-2008, 04:35 PM
Honestly I was awaiting the Almanac. All the Zelda Wiki is a bunch of ZU crap like Captain Cornflake.

Avenged
04-25-2008, 04:37 PM
The almanac is dead. The alliance is dead.

Mases
04-25-2008, 05:00 PM
I'm uncertain of the status of the Almanac. You can contact Xizor from legendofzelda.com if you are interested in the project still. I know there are a bunch of people (many of which who have posted in this thread) who do not like Zelda Universe, ZeldaInformer, Absolute Zelda, which would give reason why they don't like Zelda Wiki. Some of you also consider it to still be ZU's Wiki.

I hope to try and change the reputation of the Wiki, hoping to try and get more sites involved, and make it really seem collaborated rather than just ZU's.


As for the Alliance, Almanac was fully intended to be part of the Alliance. However, with the change in policy over at Zelda Wiki, I felt that the Almanac wasn't needed, since the Wiki was willing to adjust. Thus the Almanac served its purpose in my opinion. The Alliance still has 7 other sites announced... North Castle, Zelda Comic, Zelda Classic..... these are all great sites and will contribute greatly to the future of Zelda Dungeon. While some people don't like Zelda Wiki, it will play a minor roll relative to the entire Zelda Dungeon Alliance. I'm still extremely excited to get it going once the layout is launched.

zeypherlink
04-25-2008, 05:39 PM
Will the sites that were going to be part of the Almanac be part of Zelda Wiki, or are we kicked out?

Avenged
04-25-2008, 05:40 PM
He said continue if you wish, he has no interest left in it.

Mases
04-25-2008, 06:00 PM
Sites that were part of the Almanac could easily join the Wiki if they are interested. Like I said, I'm unsure the status of the Almanac at this point, but if you are not interested in it anymore and are interested in the Wiki, by all means can you come aboard.

The requirements are a bit different. The 'contribute or get out' policy that was previously informally in place is basically gone. However, we don't want sites yo join the Wiki and just add a text link to their index page... Some sort of contribution is needed, but it doesn't necessarily have to be from the webmaster himself. There could be projects amongst the staff of... Zelda Adventures to work together on a specific page or section on the Zelda Wiki. Or even less then that, simple announcements of the Zelda Wiki periodically at your own site, that will get at least some of your fan base to head over to the Wiki and maybe contribute something. That is a contribution.

Prior to this, it was believed that the actual webmaster must contribute work to the Wiki, which was one of the things I was strongly against, but the rule has since been lifted a bit and we are now more flexible with this. There is a line between wanting sites to support the project... and sites just free loading off of the Wiki, and we don't want free loaders.

Judai
04-26-2008, 11:41 AM
I'm not saying to go against Mases or anyone, I am just wondering why this was added while the almanac was hopefully still coming along. I have nothing against ZU's webmaster, since I don't personally know him, but over at ZU, all it seems to be is a place where the popular people who are on good terms of the Staff don't get in trouble, and a local noob comes in and says hi, then gets banned. I haven't seen much out of Zelda Wiki besides this page: http://zeldawiki.org/User:Captain_Cornflake and several advertisements which don't really have to do with a Zelda Game... XD;;. Just saying. But eh, this is Mases choice.

Avenged
04-26-2008, 01:36 PM
Thats why I may just start my own wiki type project, most likely wont use a wiki though. See anyone can edit a wiki, while if I use say a CMS only the staff that I appoint can.

Swiftblade
04-26-2008, 04:29 PM
Sites that were part of the Almanac could easily join the Wiki if they are interested. Like I said, I'm unsure the status of the Almanac at this point, but if you are not interested in it anymore and are interested in the Wiki, by all means can you come aboard.

The requirements are a bit different. The 'contribute or get out' policy that was previously informally in place is basically gone. However, we don't want sites yo join the Wiki and just add a text link to their index page... Some sort of contribution is needed, but it doesn't necessarily have to be from the webmaster himself. There could be projects amongst the staff of... Zelda Adventures to work together on a specific page or section on the Zelda Wiki. Or even less then that, simple announcements of the Zelda Wiki periodically at your own site, that will get at least some of your fan base to head over to the Wiki and maybe contribute something. That is a contribution.

Prior to this, it was believed that the actual webmaster must contribute work to the Wiki, which was one of the things I was strongly against, but the rule has since been lifted a bit and we are now more flexible with this. There is a line between wanting sites to support the project... and sites just free loading off of the Wiki, and we don't want free loaders.

The Almanac is dead. Me and Xizor talked it over, and we decided to can it.

Avenged
04-26-2008, 05:05 PM
I knew it would fail, esp. with that staff. This topic is now closed.