Mastersword Overpowerd?

[Onilink89]

after you get the master sword, you think, yeah cool looking master sword with longer range. but when i used it on basic enemies the first time, i felt the sword was a little to overpowerd making the sword skills usless. so i decided to only use the ordon sword.
(personnaly, i think the ordon sword fits link more, looking like a common swordsman)
i only used the master sword in the twilight realm, cave of ordeals when it became hard and of course ganondorf.

anyway, are there people that also thinks that the master sword is overpowerd?
and that there are people who use or used the ordon sword most of the time playing the game?

[Kybyrian]

I only used the Ordon Sword when I wanted to use the combos. When I wanted to get through a place quickly, which was almost all the time, then I used the Master Sword. It was a bit overpowered, but that meant nothing to me. Because I'm the kind of guy who's like, "Okay, done with that and know move onto the next one". I don't want to sit there and waste time using the Ordon Sword. Just like instead of jumping and attacking the poes I used the charged long-range attack with the wolf form of Link to kill it in one hit.

So, as stated, I think the Master Sword was a bit overpowered, but I still didn't use the Ordon Sword more often.

[linkman8]

I get where you're coming from Oni. Sometimes I got the impression that the Master Sword was a little too powerful, especially when I'm trying to do combos. Like when I'm trying to do the advanced jump attack: I charge up, jump up to slam down on them.... and they're already dead due to the initial hit from the jump. That's why the Ordon Sword is better for combos.

[Avenged]

I think it is perfectly strong. The Master Sword in TP is the second strongest sword (Light Sword being first...even tho the Light Sword is just a modified Master Sword, like ALttP). And only having three swords in the game, its fine.

[linkman8]

I mean sure, powerful is good, but just not for hidden skills, because the enemies just die too fast. Otherwise it's fine.

[Kybyrian]

Well, yes, they die too fast when you want to use a hidden skill on them, but really, why would you want to sit there and perform hidden skills all the time?

[Onilink89]

because its fun, especialy the ending blow. when link if fighting i want to enjoy every single bit of it.

[Kybyrian]

Well, I guess it's just me then. I don't like using those all the time. If you want to use the ending blow, just stab them with Up + B and then use the Ending Blow while they're down. The stab doesn't kill them.

[ZeroLink]

I think that for the sword of evil's bane, its perfect. I actually prefer the puzzle solving and dungeon exploring and side quests to the actual combat. So going across Hyrule Field several times didn't exactly make me want to use a weaker sword.

[RyanNope]

By the time I got the Mastersword I was already bored of combos and special moves, not to mention I was so very tired of moblins. So It's fitting for link to get that strong. It's kind of like the Biggoron sword. 1 hit takes most all enemys out, in fact, you don't ever even have to use the mastersword until Ganon in OoT, I just used the Biggy the whole time. I don't see any reason not to use the MasterSword

[Mases]

I think Link gets the mastersword too early in the game. Although in almost all master sword related games he gets it after there dungeons, so I figured they are sticking to formula. As mentioned, it makes most the skills learned all but useless, which kinda sucks since they were fun.

I do think the enemies in general were repetetive and weren't needed in some cases. Like all the enemies in Hyrule Field, I don't know, just seemed very, 'filler' to me. Not really adding much value at all to the game, consider it took just one swipe to defeat most of them.

Once you upgrade your sword in the Palace of Twililght, enemies become even more of a joke, but that is okay at that point in the game I think. (I'm at Hyrule Castle, so I'm unaware if the enemy difficulty gets much harder), but I'd assume for the most part they are the same enemies with just a select few new ones. But ya, overal, I think a lesser powered master sword and less enemies in un-important areas would have been a better route to go.

[Avenged]

I for one think there wasnt nearly enough enemies in Hyrule Field. What happened to 'enemy filled' overworlds like in the older Zelda titles...See what 3D Zelda has done? Why does there have to be enemies at important areas and why can't there be at unimportant areas such as...the overworld?

[Smitie]

i like the mastersword the way it is. the combo's are fun (especially the finishing blow) but I rather kill enemies quick. and isn't the mastersword supposed to be extra strong? You can't kill ganondorf with a simple piece of iron.

[Charlie]

It was slightly overpowered, but power is good >D

It felt good swinging the Wii remote around with that much power lmao XD

[Avenged]

Well yea ofcourse it is. But I liked how the MS was portrayed in ALttP. When you first get the blade, its dull and weak. You then later get it tempered to restore its original power. Then later you even get it upgraded again into the Golden Master Sword (which was just awesome). If they did something like this again with the master Sword, I will be sold.

Even though in TP you do upgrade it once, but I think it was a pointless upgrade since I think the Light Sword was only stronger in the Twilight Realm. And also in MM there was two ways you could get your sword tempered (I loved how they brought back the blacksmith aspect).

[SolidLinkX]

I am glad that the Master Sword was powerful. It is supposed to be the most powerful sword ever forged so I think it fits quite well.

[linkman8]

Granted, story-wise it makes sense to have it this all-powerful sword, but from a gamer's perspective it was just a little overpowered for the common enemy.

[Avenged]

I really dont think so, the Zelda games have always been like that...Hit enemy 2-3 times to kill it. Or hit enemy once and kill it woth the most powerful sword. I think the 3-D influence on the Zelda games has messed witgh some of your heads.

[Mases]

The problem with that analysis when pertaining to Twilight Princess in my opinion, most of the overworld enemies are simple and repetetive. Thus, they take only one hit to defeat. In say the original LoZ or LttP, the enemies in the overworld that you face in the begining of the game are pretty simple or just moderately difficult. However, as you stray from the starting area in LoZ or in LttP get to Death Mountain and thne Dark World, the enemies become progressively harder.

So the regular sword is quite difficult to beat them but the upgraded white or sword works better, and then the upgraded magical sword usually is one or two hit defeat. Then in a Link to the Past, the master sword made things a bit better, then the tempered sword most were usually 1-2 kills, then the golden sword almost everything was 1 hit kill. However, in both cases, you really aren't suppose to get the most upgraded sworded until well in the game. (Although the Magical sword is found relatively quickly if you get all the heart containers)

In Twilight Princess however, the master sword is mostly a 1-2 hit kill, but Link gets it quickly into the game. There really is only 2 swords since the sword upgrade in the Palace of Twilight isn't used elsewhere. So the best sword in LoZ and LTTP is found much later in the game, while the Master Sword in TP is the best sword, but is found rather quickly in the game.

[Avenged]

There were four swords in TP

1. Wooden Sword
2. Ordon Sword
3. Master Sword
4. Light Sword

I actually wish we could have kept the wooden sword as well...

[kehau712]

The Master Sword in Twilight Princess may have been powerful and killed enemies really quickly, but who would wanna spend that much time killing a single enemy? Not to mention boss fights got harder after the third dungeon, so it was rather important that the Master Sword be strong. Imagine fighting Stalord with the Ordon Sword. That fight was really long, and it would hav ebeen longer without the Master Sword.

I really don't understand what the deal with the "too-powerful Master Sword" is all about. And for the people who think that it's too powerful for the "common enemy," remember that the Master Sword was not forged for the common enemy. It was forged to kill Ganon, and any sword that can break through the darkness with the power of its light has got to be powerful.

[Avenged]

Funny...have you even played TP? Because you barely use your sword in that fight. And it was't exactly forged to kill Ganon, just any evil in general...If I recall the sword was merged long before Ganondorf's time.

[Mases]

The Master Sword in Twilight Princess may have been powerful and killed enemies really quickly, but who would wanna spend that much time killing a single enemy? Not to mention boss fights got harder after the third dungeon, so it was rather important that the Master Sword be strong.

I agree that nobody wants to spend that much time killing a single enemy, especially the overworld enemies. Hyrule was huge and there were random enemies all over the field. Not THAT many, but enough for you to ask, what's the purpose of all these pointless enemies? While enemies in the overworld have always been essential in Zelda titles, for some reason in TP they seemed rather misplaced and I was always angry having to fight these rediculously easy enemies over and over.

And it was't exactly forged to kill Ganon, just any evil in general...If I recall the sword was merged long before Ganondorf's time.

Ya, from what I've read online, the master sword was created long ago, with the trident of power being the evil alternative to the master sword. If somebody believes in the timeline theories with most having the Minish Cap and Ocarina of TIme near the begining. In Minish Cap, Link had the four sword, picori sword, but no master sword. In Ocarina of Time, the master sword was in existance long before the game happened since it was already sealed away when Ganondorf was gaining power.

[Onilink89]

The Master Sword in Twilight Princess may have been powerful and killed enemies really quickly, but who would wanna spend that much time killing a single enemy? Not to mention boss fights got harder after the third dungeon, so it was rather important that the Master Sword be strong. Imagine fighting Stalord with the Ordon Sword. That fight was really long, and it would hav ebeen longer without the Master Sword.

I really don't understand what the deal with the "too-powerful Master Sword" is all about. And for the people who think that it's too powerful for the "common enemy," remember that the Master Sword was not forged for the common enemy. It was forged to kill Ganon, and any sword that can break through the darkness with the power of its light has got to be powerful.

i get your point.
but then there isn 't much balance in the game. its not like that you spend so many time on an enemy with the ordon sword. you can even toy with them, its just unsatifiying. and the skills you learn, you only need them for certain enemies. its like a waste that you learn them and still it so easy to take a common enemy down. so my opinion, they could have made stronger enemies or just put more enemies. or just slightly reduce the strength of the master sword.

btw your example with the stalord, it doesn 't make much difference what sword u use.
if you pay good attention, after you floored the stalords head and you start hitting it, after a certain amount of damage it gets up. i think its programmed that way. only difference is that you need to hit it more with the ordon sword to get the certain amount of damage to get it up again. its not like that you have to floor the stalord many times to beat it.

[Kybyrian]

The Master Sword is mostly known as "The Blade of Evil's Bane". So I'm pretty sure that does refer to all evil in general, as somebody said before.

I don't really see the big deal in the Master Sword being overpowered. If you want to use the Hidden Skills, just use the Ordon Sword. It's not like it's forcing you to use the Master Sword or anything like that.

[Onilink89]

The Master Sword is mostly known as "The Blade of Evil's Bane". So I'm pretty sure that does refer to all evil in general, as somebody said before.

I don't really see the big deal in the Master Sword being overpowered. If you want to use the Hidden Skills, just use the Ordon Sword. It's not like it's forcing you to use the Master Sword or anything like that.

its not a big deal. but for some reason, its just that its unbalanced as far for my opinion.
look at it this way, the master sword in other games. Alttp that was well balanced even with the upgrades, because later you were fighting lot more diffucult enemies.
OOT was well balanced. it was the common sword of adult link but is not like you were fighting weak enemies. WW was well balanced, you had to hit a normal bokoboblin 3 times before it died and in ww there were more multiply enemies that you had to fight at the same time. even with tha parry attack, it was handy to fight multiply enemies.

lets look at TP, when fighting multiply enemies with the master sword, on lousy quick spin attack (which it really easy on the wii, don 't know about the GC) makes major damage or even instant kills. my point of vieuw, the hidden skills you learn should have a purpose in stead of thats its only fun. the only enemy that u really need the hidden skills is the darknut.

but i agree with you on one thing, its not like they are forcing you to use the master sword.
but if that did, i would be more dissapionted.

[Avenged]

Yes, that is one thing I miss with Zelda...the later areas you reach have harder enemies and need more powerful weaponry. Seems Zelda has gotten too sloppy with the main gameplay...its good it sticks to the storyline and all, but it needs more than that. As I've said before, if the Zelda series goes back to its original roots and keep throwing in new ideas...I believe all us fans will be satisfied.

I meant as a selectable weapon like the other swords are.

[twili123prince]

I didn't notice it being over powered at all i think it has the same power as the ordon sword i guess Im wrong then. But i like the way the master sword looks i think it makes link look awesome.The the ordon sword makes link look normal and i don't think he is normal he's awesome and an awesome hero deserves an awesome sword which is the master sword.

[Judai]

The Light Master Sword is extremely over powered in the Twilight Realm. You need to only attack once to kill something. Seriously. Twili Messengers, dead. Zant heads, dead. Etc. I've tried a three heart challange without the use of the Master Sword and it was hard.

[El Bagu]

I have never really reflected over it! (Will edit this after I´ve played through it again). But right now I would say the sword was nice:)

[Mases]

The Light Master Sword is extremely over powered in the Twilight Realm. You need to only attack once to kill something. Seriously. Twili Messengers, dead. Zant heads, dead. Etc. I've tried a three heart challange without the use of the Master Sword and it was hard.


I know that the twliit/shadow creatures are so easy to defeat once you get the Light Master Sword (or Light Sword), whatever it is called. How about using the Light Sword OUTSIDE of the Twilight Realm. I'm pretty sure this was brought up earlier or perhaps in a different discussion. Does the Light Sword actually do any more damage than the standard Master Sword OUTSIDE of the Twilight Realm. Like... to a Dark Nut or something. Does it take the same amount of sword slashes to defeat with the Master Sword and the Light Sword?

[blackice_cc]

I know that the twliit/shadow creatures are so easy to defeat once you get the Light Master Sword (or Light Sword), whatever it is called. How about using the Light Sword OUTSIDE of the Twilight Realm. I'm pretty sure this was brought up earlier or perhaps in a different discussion. Does the Light Sword actually do any more damage than the standard Master Sword OUTSIDE of the Twilight Realm. Like... to a Dark Nut or something. Does it take the same amount of sword slashes to defeat with the Master Sword and the Light Sword?

Yes, I'm pretty sure that the powered up master sword does the same damage to non-twilight creatures as the normal master sword. If it does do more damage, then it isn't very much more. I have yet to test it out, but I'll check a soon as I can.