View Full Version : My Zelda timeline.
Velkku
02-07-2008, 11:52 AM
Here's link to the picture I made about my theory of Zelda-timeline.
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh177/velkku/zeleda.jpg?t=1202406677
So, what do you think? :)
Mases
02-07-2008, 12:07 PM
I like the pictures :) Well done, hehe.
It's an interesting take on the series to say that the games are in different realities and really have little or nothing to do with the other realities.
I do think that there is a connection between A Link to the Past and Ocarina of Time with the Seal War (more commonly known as the Imprisoning War). Although I'm not sure, that is just common belief amongst theorists.
Also, I'm not certain but I believe Nintendo did make some sort of timeline for where Twilight Princess fits in. Not sure exactly what they said, but I do remember something about it. Who knows though. Just because somebody from Nintendo says something, doesn't mean it is factual.
Velkku
02-07-2008, 01:14 PM
Well, now looking back to that picture, it's kind of childish... :D But I stand behind my theory.
I have allways kept OoT and ALttP seperated, cause I think they both are kind of like "the beginning", and two beginnings in one story, it don't fit, in my option.
Only thing I am confused in my theory is the Four Sword-games, I tried my best to put them in the line, but still they make me confused...
Peregrine
02-07-2008, 01:51 PM
Well, they're after the Minish Cap, obviously.
I used to have a pretty good place for them, but it was so long ago, and I don't really remember. But Four Swords Adventures, I think comes before Link to the Past. The reason for that is because Gannon used Vaati's escape as a distraction to steal the Trident of Power, and he's using the same trident in Link to the Past. I also seem to remember reading somewhere that it was the trident that transformed him into the pig-like form. I also remember that Link's occasional warping into the dark zone was early on, like after Gannon had been imprisoned, but while the Dark World was still forming.
I think the first Four Swords game came before that. Not immediately before, but sometime before. Maybe after Minish Cap. Because if I remember right, Link and Zelda are described as "childhood friends" in both games, so it might even be the same Link. But I'm not committed to that idea.
So pretty much where you already have the first one.
And there may have been at least one other time that the Foursword was used, but that there hasn't been a game made of yet, because the prologues to the two games are rather different.
Velkku
02-07-2008, 02:15 PM
Peregrine, you got a point. But in AlttP Link and Zelda didn't know eachother, and Ganon was a "new face" to Link. It's so hard to put any kind of order to these games, because they all are "stand-alone-games" (exept direct sequels). But it's fun to make these theories, it just shows our love to these games.
Peregrine
02-07-2008, 02:21 PM
Well, Link and Zelda don't always know each other, because they're different Links in different timeframes. And different Zeldas, too, although she is directly related to her predecessors. And Link doesn't need to know Gannon, because Gannon was beaten by a different guy before.
It's easier to wrap your brain around when you realize that Link is a different Link in certain games. Believe me; OoT confused the heck out of me before that nugget of info was revealed.
Velkku
02-07-2008, 02:41 PM
Yeah, I noticed that different Link and Zelda-thing while back. I got nothing more to say about this, does anyone have anything in mind...?
Super Zelda Fanatic
02-09-2008, 08:16 AM
very kewl i lke the pics and words 2 i should make 1 and maybe as good as yours :D
LegendZ
02-09-2008, 08:35 AM
Velkku, very nice Timeline, looks very good! Thumbs up .
Alder Dragon
02-10-2008, 10:45 AM
Like Mases said, I think that LttP and OoT have much in common, very similar backstory and overall design. The only thing that baffled me was the ending of LttP "And the Master Sword sleeps again... FOREVER!" Maybe they just put 'forever' there to make it seem more fantasy-ish, but if you can rely on that, it would have to be one of the last games, or at least the last of the games which include the Master Sword in them.
Peregrine
02-10-2008, 11:22 AM
Forever could just mean a really long time. If there's a time space of, say 150 years between certain games, then that would be forever-ish to the people who were alive back then.
Or it could mean "Forever... until it's needed again". Which is a bit of a cop-out, but then Final Frontier was supposed to be the last Star Trek movie too, so Zelda wouldn't be the first franchise to conveniently forget that there was closure before they decided to make a new entry in the series.
I think in most timelines I've tried to piece together, LttP has been the last with the Master Sword in it, so it really hasn't been a problem yet. But I wouldn't complain if a new one came up.
Velkku
02-11-2008, 10:15 AM
Heh, that "Master Sword sleeps forever"-thing fits right in my timeline, there's no Master Sword in the next games that are after ALttP. There's only Four Sword and Magical Sword, mut not the Master Sword.
I have allways kept OoT and ALttP like a different kind of version of the same story, they are so similar. That's the thing with the legends, they are different depending who's telling it. That's where I came with this "different realities" -thing. All the stories begin with the Goddesses, creation, and thr Triforce, but at that point they split to these realities one, two and three.
Ralph
02-12-2008, 05:34 AM
I don't think there are any "alternate realities" I think the Zelda series is pretty linear
ssj5goten
02-12-2008, 10:27 AM
pretty good but i think twighlight came after majora instead of a 3rd reality.
it also tells about an ancient hero with the same clothes s it would mean there already was a Link right?
Velkku
02-12-2008, 01:15 PM
it also tells about an ancient hero with the same clothes s it would mean there already was a Link right?
Didn't know that, cause I haven't played it. I make another picture when I have more knownledge about Twilight Princess. But what I know, it might fit after Majoras Mask.
Lenora Dragon
02-12-2008, 02:25 PM
I congratulate you to take the time and come up with your own theory. Personally, I wouldn't go through the time. When you dig down deep, it seems a lot of the games have the ability to be placed differently in the timeline. There are many deadends, and many beginnings that never seem to continue on.
I suppose that's part of the fun Nintendo has given to use while playing Zelda, we can play over and over - but we can never 100% guess the timeline. It gives it mystery, which is always entertaining. The first two games possibly end the timeline? Or perhaps another game enters in before The Minish Cap. We can guess, but we aren't going to be 100% accurate I believe until they end the series. There is a lot of information - I'm just hoping for the people who do spend their time trying to figure out the timeline, Nintendo gives more hints to give them a bit of help.
Good job though!
kris94
02-28-2008, 12:09 PM
I think it`s a reason it`s called "The Legend of Zelda"
isn`t it a legend with many different storys?
if it is many differnt`s legends of zelda, then which is the real one?
Avenged
02-28-2008, 12:10 PM
What? They are all real (except for LA which was a dream, Dreaming Island). If you want to debate on why it is called The Legend of Zelda, go to our 'Legend of Link' thread. Each game tells its own legend, not too hard to understand IMO.
Mases
02-28-2008, 12:13 PM
I believe what he meant by Legend of Zelda, is that it isn't one particular Legend. Sure there is an obvious 'Legend' in the Adventure of Link, but one could argue that each of the stories are on their own and have just little connection with the other games. Thus they are all their own 'Legends of Zelda', and would be hard to fit in the Zelda Timeline.
That is a fair statement in my opinion and part of me agrees with it. Although I do think there is a relation between all the games except a few of them.
Avenged
02-28-2008, 12:17 PM
Yes AoL seemed to have been the true LEGEND of Zelda. How theres two Princess Zelda in the one game is beyond me...I mean how could the same Zelda Link saved be the same that has been asleep for many years. Truthfully I think it was just a mistransltion in the manual, for more accurate storylines, it's better to read the japanese (original) versions, they usualy elaborate much more with details like these.
firebunnies123
02-28-2008, 06:16 PM
i can see how each game is a piece of one legend and a legend of its self seperatly but tp doesn't fit in. Can anyone shed light on that. Also everyone konws how there are numerous links throughout the games, but isn't there only one ganon/ganondorf. Could it be true the same ganon is in all games.
Mehplep
02-28-2008, 06:26 PM
i can see how each game is a piece of one legend and a legend of its self seperatly but tp doesn't fit in. Can anyone shed light on that. Also everyone konws how there are numerous links throughout the games, but isn't there only one ganon/ganondorf. Could it be true the same ganon is in all games.
Well, frankly is Ganondorf killed twice (TP, TWW) in the series, so there is actually two. But, because of the split timeline, they're pretty much the same one, yeah.
Mike Pothier
04-07-2008, 11:42 PM
Here's link to the picture I made about my theory of Zelda-timeline.
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh177/velkku/zeleda.jpg?t=1202406677
So, what do you think? :)
Very well done, and well thought out.
One issue I have is that OoT and ALttP are in the same timeline. The backstory contains too many elements that fit into OoT to be otherwise.
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