Kakariko Village

[Mases]

Ah, the great town that makes its appearance felt in A Link to the Past, Ocarina of Time, and Twilight Princess.

One thing that I've noticed though, specifically in Twilight Princess. Where are all the people? The town has what, 9-10 houses? There is a hot spring, a hotel, a bomb shop, and another random goron outdoor shop... but where are all the people. Keep in mind many of the people seen in Kakariko Village are original members of Ordon Village.

In A Link to the Past and Ocarina of Time the towns were so lively. Always people running their own shops or just wandering outside. What happened to the town in Twilight Princess that has made everybody abandon it?

[ZeroLink]

Ah, the great town that makes its appearance felt in A Link to the Past, Ocarina of Time, and Twilight Princess.

One thing that I've noticed though, specifically in Twilight Princess. Where are all the people? The town has what, 9-10 houses? There is a hot spring, a hotel, a bomb shop, and another random goron outdoor shop... but where are all the people. Keep in mind many of the people seen in Kakariko Village are original members of Ordon Village.

In A Link to the Past and Ocarina of Time the towns were so lively. Always people running their own shops or just wandering outside. What happened to the town in Twilight Princess that has made everybody abandon it?
In Twilight Princess, when you first go to Kakariko Village as a wolf and you go into the building with all the people in it, the Bomb Store owner makes a reference to when the beings from the Twilight Realm first arrive, saying something about how those things defeated a whole bunch of people easily... something like that. But my theory is that the Twilight Beings killed everyone but the few survivors in the chief's house.

[MiniMeMilo]

I think that the Twilight Creatures 'are' the Kakarikans... or whatever they're called. Midna says that Link is lucky not to become a spirit, or worse, a creature of twilight. Well maybe these people were transformed into twilight creatures instead of spirits.

[Chrono]

No, the Sheiks inhabit Kakariko Village...If you played Twilight Princess you would no that Hidden Village is the old Kakariko Village and a certain person named Impaz resides there (yes Impa with a Z). And Minimemello, read my theorized yet factual statement claiming that the Gerudo are the Twili.

[MiniMeMilo]

Just because they're creatures of twilight doesn't mean that they are Twilis, and my theory would have a reason why no Shiekahs made an appearance in Twilight Princess (other than Zelda.)

[Chrono]

There were sheikahs in Twilight princess, her name was Impaz, and Zelda isnt a Sheikah, she is just known as Sheik.

[MiniMeMilo]

Sorry for the false information about no Sheikahs appearing other than Zelda, but Impaz had hidden from the creatures. She and Zelda were the only Sheikahs left. This can't disprove my theory of the Twilight Creatures being the Sheikahs after twilight consumed them. I can, however, prove that the Barnes is not a Sheikah, and the Twili are not the Gerudos. (And just so you know, Sheik is a Sheikah. When you first meet her in the Temple of Time she says "I am Sheik. Survivor of the Sheikahs...")

As you know, one of the many characteristics of the Sheikah are pointy ears and red eyes. Althought you can't see Barnes' eyes behind his thick glasses, his ears aren't pointed as far as I can tell.

Most of you know as well that Gerudos are all females, except for 1 male every 100 years. When you travel into the Twilight Realm and break the curse on the Twili, they're all males. No females at all. The males die off every 100 years, and another is born. Ganandorf only survived because he had the Triforce of Power.

[Chrono]

The Sheikahs protected the Royal Family, Zelda is part of the Royal Family. That would make her father a sheikah when he is obviously a Hylian. Impa is the true survivor of the Sheikah. And about the Twili, not sure if they really are all males, after to double check myself.

[MiniMeMilo]

Ok, you make some pretty good points. but this is how I see it... The Sheikah must have been very close to the royal family. In fact, maybe a litle too close. I don't think that Impa was just Zelda's caretaker, but was in fact her mother. That's why she appears to have red eyes as a Sheik, but not white hair. She is only a half Sheikah.

[Chrono]

Thats possible since we have yet to see Queen of Hyrule make an appearance.

[ZeroLink]

I think we're giving the topic starter too much information. He was referring to the Kakariko Village that the children take refuge in, not the Hidden Village. The people of the new Kakariko seem to have been killed by the monsters, hence the empty hotel and why there are only three actual citizens of Kakariko in the village for the game's duration (Barnes, Renaldo, and Renaldo's child).

However, regarding the Hidden Village, it was raided by Bublins and taken over, and Impaz hid and survived. Whether the other Sheikah were killed by the Bublins or not is unknown, but it's doubtful. I think Impaz was the last Sheikah left and hid in her house. The reason I think this is, the Sheikah were, from what I can tell from Ocarina of Time, incredible warriors. Hard to see them being slain by Bublins.

[zeypherlink]

Maybe most of them were killed when the Shadow Creatures attakced Kakariko...and maybe some of them feld to Hyrule Castle Town?

[Kybyrian]

That's what I was thinking. That they were either destroyed by the creatures that had attacked Kakariko village or that they fled when they were attacked. I mean, of course the people knew that they were being attacked, seeing as how the remaining people had already hiding. That's my opinion. I mean, I'd either run away or be destroyed if they attacked me too xD

[Chrono]

You guys have to remember that TP takes place in a more 'descent' Hyrule. Anything could have happened in the hundreds of years between OoT and TP. The only real thing to explain it would be a prequal to TP or another sequal to OoT. TP is one of the first Zeldas that didn't provide a prologue/backstory.

[Abyss Master]

I believe that the monsters did kill the other inhabitants of Kakariko Village. I don't think that they ran away, as there are monster-infested plains in either direction from the village (apart from Death Mountain, but the Gorons wouldn't let humans into their territory anymore). Kakariko Village seems to me to be kinda abandoned, really. If you approach as a wolf and Talo warns everyone to run, when you're all alone in the village it does look like it's abandoned.

[Rheks]

Maybe most of them were killed when the Shadow Creatures attakced Kakariko...and maybe some of them feld to Hyrule Castle Town?

Yeah thats what I thought, but I didn't like Kakariko much in TP. It was really empty.

[Kybyrian]

Anything could have happened, Avenged, but who really knows? It may have taken place much farther from OoT. Though who would seriously want to wipe out a whole village of people? The places really weren't in that bad of a shape until the creatures attacked Kakariko. I mean, if they would have moved out long before, then the houses would be in quite a bad condition.

[Chrono]

Yea, you repeated what I said in a sense, but huh Im pretty sure Ganondorf and his minions wouldn't mind wiping out a whole village, or even Zant.

[Mases]

One thing about the previous titles that I really enjoyed in the Kakriko Village incarnations of a Link to the Past and Ocarina of TIme. Is that they were so calm and happy. The music as well in the Light World of ALTTP. Even in Ocarina of Time as well, there were quite a bit of happy people running around.

Both versions had their downsides. Like those two girls that would yellow for soldiers if Link spoke with them in A Link to the Past, or the House of Skulltula's where all the people were transformed.

In the Twilight Princess version, for some reason the place just seemed so dull and depressing. Barely anybdy there, most the houses empty. Didn't really know Kakariko was going to make a return in TP, but when I found it did, I was happy and excited. It's the place to keep calm in Hyrule, and not worry about the problems of the outside world.

[Kybyrian]

It was still a big place with some quite fun things to do, but it was just so empty. Plus if Ganondorf and his minions or even Zant had attacked it then I think they might actually destroy the houses too, but that's just what I think. There's a sign on the slope that says do not jump from the ledge to the wooden platform over on the other side, so you know there were other people there, but you just don't know what happened to them.

[Mases]

After discovering the Hidden Village it is quite clear that it was the old Kakariko Village.

One thing about the Twilight Princess Kakairko Village that seems unclear. In this relatively primitive society, it seems all of this has happened o so quickly. The old Kakariko being destroyed and turned into the Hidden Village. A new Kakariko Village built up, of which later led to the creation of the Goron Mines. Then after all this, some sort of abandonment of the new Kakariko Village. Just seems too quick. Especially since I believe its been said that Twilight Princess takes place 100 years after the ending of the Ocarina of Time.

[zeypherlink]

One thing about the Twilight Princess Kakairko Village that seems unclear. In this relatively primitive society, it seems all of this has happened o so quickly. The old Kakariko being destroyed and turned into the Hidden Village. A new Kakariko Village built up, of which later led to the creation of the Goron Mines. Then after all this, some sort of abandonment of the new Kakariko Village. Just seems too quick. Especially since I believe its been said that Twilight Princess takes place 100 years after the ending of the Ocarina of Time.
If TP really does take place 100 years after OoT, and its the same Hyrule, then the Goron Mines might have been the old Goron City, or maybe it was an add on to Goron City.

[Kybyrian]

Maybe so, but I don't think that it was a built-on of it. Yes, it does seem like it happened fast. The old Kakariko Village being ruined, a new being built, and then abandoned. All in 100 years. Yes, 100 years can be quite a period of time, but not for a place like that, especially since we're talking about Zelda here. My guess that they left when the Twilight Monsters attacked was highly inaccurate as I just realized. Considering there is a giant wall of Twilight that nobody can just enter there, I don't think anybody would be leaving Kakariko. It just seems so dull. Like the main question, what the heck happened to all the people? Maybe it wasn't just that long since the old Kakariko was destroyed and not many people went there when the new one was built. Like Impaz said, she was the only one left in the old Kakariko Village, also known as the Hidden Village.

[zeypherlink]

I was replaying TP and I figured out what happened to all the villagers in Kakariko.
When you're in the house and that small cut scene takes place, Barnes(the bomb guy) says that the monsters went to the lady that owned the general store, and a big group of villagers went there to save her, but the monsters were there to ambush them.

So Kakariko pretty much got pwned by the shadow creatures.

[Mike Pothier]

I was replaying TP and I figured out what happened to all the villagers in Kakariko.
When you're in the house and that small cut scene takes place, Barnes(the bomb guy) says that the monsters went to the lady that owned the general store, and a big group of villagers went there to save her, but the monsters were there to ambush them.

So Kakariko pretty much got pwned by the shadow creatures.

Thats no surprise, after seeing how they took out pretty much the entire royal guard with no trouble.

[Stan]

After discovering the Hidden Village it is quite clear that it was the old Kakariko Village.

One thing about the Twilight Princess Kakairko Village that seems unclear. In this relatively primitive society, it seems all of this has happened o so quickly. The old Kakariko being destroyed and turned into the Hidden Village. A new Kakariko Village built up, of which later led to the creation of the Goron Mines. Then after all this, some sort of abandonment of the new Kakariko Village. Just seems too quick. Especially since I believe its been said that Twilight Princess takes place 100 years after the ending of the Ocarina of Time.

Which ending are we talking about here? The one that follows the ending with Ganon being banished or the ending when Link returns to his original time? That could make a huge difference in the result of the TP Kakariko and the Mines.

[waldo12]

i agree with masses on this one the town is important and yet theress no ppl now i get the monsters came thorugh but later in the game the town could have repopulated and cleanded it up

[Chris]

The reason there are no people in Kakariko Village is because they all abandoned it. When you first reach Kakariko Village, it is obviously abandoned. When you free it from Twilight, people from Ordon come to live there. Once you beat Goron Mines the Gorons come in search of shelter. The reason they never lived there before is because They were still working for Fyrus (thats his boss name).

As for the hotspring, that could have appeared as a result of natural occorences.