Magic

[Mases]

What I would really like to see in some of the future Zelda titles, is a return of some magic. It seems, ever since the series went 3d and specifically after the n64 titles, magic has become less and less of a factor within the Zelda series.

Sure, there are the occasional magic based items here and there, but nothing like before. Part of the reason why I loved the older games were because of the magic. In A link to the Past, almost half of Link's inventory was magic based. The three medallions were great, the rods, canes, and even the magic powder. I remember running around the Dark World, springling magic powder on enemies, trying to figure out which ones would transform into slime. :)

Even in Adventure of Link, there were all the different spells. Some of them wouldn't bold well in a top-down or 3d environment, but I still would like to see more of it.

[linkman8]

I would like to see Link have the ability to shoot fireballs, lightning bolts, and all of those elemental magics in a future game. I know there were those like Din's Fire, but I'm talking about like in Elder Scrolls where you can shoot things like fireballs.

[Avenged]

Link used fire in AoL, he used lightning in both AoL and AlttP. If anything, Link should be able to use a magic 'sword' that isnt the master sword for once. For those that have played Crystalis would kn ow that each sword is based on a different element (ice, earth, wind, fire) and could even be upgraded. The sowrd shot beams like in LoZ but much better, esp since you can even power it up and shoot a larger beam. Something like this would be good for the series IMO.

[miku]

(This isn't exactly relevant to the topic but a part of the last post reminded me of it) I haven't played Twilight Princess, so I don't know if it has this, but I would love to see your sword shoot at enemies when you have full life in a future 3d Zelda game, like it did in Zelda 1, Zelda 2, Zelda 3, and Zelda 4 (when you have enough seashells). I miss that.

[Avenged]

(This isn't exactly relevant to the topic but a part of the last post reminded me of it) I haven't played Twilight Princess, so I don't know if it has this, but I would love to see your sword shoot at enemies when you have full life in a future 3d Zelda game, like it did in Zelda 1, Zelda 2, Zelda 3, and Zelda 4 (when you have enough seashells). I miss that.

Yeah and also in Majoras Mask as Fierce Deity, and the Oracles, and The Minish Cap, and Phantom Hourglass. It is called..the beamblade. It was in OoT, but taken out months prior to its release.

[MiniMeMilo]

(This isn't exactly relevant to the topic but a part of the last post reminded me of it) I haven't played Twilight Princess, so I don't know if it has this, but I would love to see your sword shoot at enemies when you have full life in a future 3d Zelda game, like it did in Zelda 1, Zelda 2, Zelda 3, and Zelda 4 (when you have enough seashells). I miss that.

There's something similar to this in Twilight Princess. It didn't actually shoot a beam, but increased the radius if the spin attack. Remember in OoT and MM, you could upgrade your spin attack where there was a red aura around the blade itself? That's kind of what it was like, except no magic meter and you need full health to pull it off.

[Avenged]

The only thing close to a beamblade attack in TP was having the Light Sword.

[MiniMeMilo]

I take it you didn't get all the hidden skills, did you? Well... dew et.

[Avenged]

I take it you didn't get all the hidden skills, did you? Well... dew et.

I have beaten the game on several occasions, you're just speaking of the Great Spin Attack, which has nothing to do with the beamblade. Same goes with OoT.

[Kybyrian]

Ah yes, I really miss the variety of magic in the Zelda games. I enjoyed using things like Din's Fire, Nayru's Love, and Farore's Wind in Ocarina of Time. I really loved the way that you had all these different kinds of magic in the earlier LoZ games as well. I found the beam blades really fun to use in the Oracle Games as well.

[Onilink89]

i really liked din 's fire, but why doesn 't it affect red and blue tektites, that was disspointing. but it was really handy against wallmasters.
the fire arrow only was effective against like like and anubis.
ice arrow was really handy against stalfos and other enemies.

in Alttp the Quake medallion was my fave. that meddalion rules. love the way he downthrust to the ground and causes shockwaves all over the ground.

[Kybyrian]

Because Red and Blue tektikes were creatures of the water. That's why it didn't affect them. The Ice Arrow was awesome. Freezing enemies was awesome. Then you can either go up and take a whack, or get time to run away.

[linkman8]

For some reason, my game got screwed up or something and it made it so my OOT game could NOT get the ice arrows... I've gotten the ice arrows in MM, are they essentially the same thing?

[Onilink89]

For some reason, my game got screwed up or something and it made it so my OOT game could NOT get the ice arrows... I've gotten the ice arrows in MM, are they essentially the same thing?

in OOt with gerudo training ground, it is possible to gain all keys to open all doors. some keys are well hidden compare to the other keys.

[linkman8]

Maybe I'll just have to go back and look again. It's not a huge deal, but I'll have something to do.

[Kybyrian]

It's the metal inside of the cartridge. If they become messed up in any way it can do something to the game. I know somebody who did that and they couldn't see the master sword. Link still acted like he picked it up and stuff but you just couldn't see it.

In my game I couldn't get the Fire Arrows. Thus making me realize that the Fire Arrows aren't necessary.

[zeypherlink]

Twilight Princess had magic during the beta tests and all of that...But s of late, the only game I can remember that has a magic bar is The Wind Waker. I would also love to see the return of Magic. Maybe Nintendo could make it more detailed, kind of like magic in a Final Fantasy game. I think it would give it more ways to fight, and there could be extra magic powers, so that could open up more side-quests :)

[Onilink89]

Twilight Princess had magic during the beta tests and all of that...But s of late, the only game I can remember that has a magic bar is The Wind Waker. I would also love to see the return of Magic. Maybe Nintendo could make it more detailed, kind of like magic in a Final Fantasy game. I think it would give it more ways to fight, and there could be extra magic powers, so that could open up more side-quests :)

BUMP

i only used the magic meter in WW for one huge purpose besides the arrows.
the magic armor. the magic armor with elixer soup was a very effective way to maintain the double power. and if magic meter runs out, drink green potion quickly.
this combination really helped me alot.

but if had to think of and idea that would make use of magic besides from magic items for attack or for defence, i really want to see magic items/spells that will affect your abbility or gain an abillity, like more speed or that link can actually jump high (without roc 's cape) things like that..

[zeypherlink]

but if had to think of and idea that would make use of magic besides from magic items for attack or for defence, i really want to see magic items/spells that will affect your abbility or gain an abillity, like more speed or that link can actually jump high (without roc 's cape) things like that..
Kind of like attributes? That sounds interesting...Maybe Nintendo could give it a shot, unless they don;t want to take anymore chances with Zelda, like they did with AoL.

[The Zelda Master]

The magic system needs to be both re-implimented and re-vamped... really, there are alot of possibilities that could be used.

[mike36]

Kind of like attributes? That sounds interesting...Maybe Nintendo could give it a shot, unless they don;t want to take anymore chances with Zelda, like they did with AoL.

I would like to see another game similar to AoL. That was one of my favorites in the series. I really liked the RPG elements, and learning the different spells and sword techniques in the towns. I also liked how you had to talk to everyone to figure out what to do next (not like in the recent games where you just ask your fairy or twilight creature).

[WolfAngel]

o yea i know what you mean...the magic was really cool...for me i enjoyed it a lot in OOA and then after that it disappeared...i dont remember the sequence in which the games were made (well i know the diff between really old and really new) but they just stopped it. bummer

[Punchout]

I think the new zelda will incorporate a new magic system. They havent used magic in the more recent games. It was sorta a fluke in my opinion. It ran out so quick and when did you need magic to light a lamp i mean come on.

[Avenged]

That wasnt magic, it was a substance called oil. And all but TP used magic...what recent games? TP was the only one.

[Jirrup]

And all but TP used magic...what recent games? TP was the only one.

Actually, PH didn't have magic either. And I don't know if you'd count them as recent, but neither did TMC or FSA.

[Avenged]

The Minish Cap had magic....so did FSA Oo. What do you think that bar was for when you charged the sword? plus just because a game doesnt have a magic bar (TMC did tho) doesnt mean there isnt magic. The very first Zelda didnt have a magic bar but used magic on several occasions (magic wand, magic book, magic key, magic shield, magic sword, magic candle, etc).

[Dabombster]

The Minish Cap had magic....so did FSA Oo. What do you think that bar was for when you charged the sword? plus just because a game doesnt have a magic bar (TMC did tho) doesnt mean there isnt magic. The very first Zelda didnt have a magic bar but used magic on several occasions (magic wand, magic book, magic key, magic shield, magic sword, magic candle, etc).

So, in essence, the Dominion Rod was the magic in TP then too, correct? Especially considering that you had to restore its power. If that's the case, then I can't think of a Zelda game that hasn't had any magic (I don't know about PH, haven't played it).

[Punchout]

in LttP it takes magic to light a lantern not tp. I shouldnt have.

[blackice_cc]

I think that in a future game, they should not only reinstate magic, but give an eplanation about its source. It seems like link was able to use magic without training or any explanation on where the magic came from.

[Avenged]

The source is the people of hylia. The Hylians are said to wield magic skills. The Gerudo also wield magic skills.

[blackice_cc]

Thanks, but I was asking where the hylians/gerudos got it from.
I was just wondering, where did you hear that? I don't not remember hearing it in any of the games, but its probably either my memory being wrong, or its in one of the games I haven't played(AoL, ALttP, OoS and PH.)

[Avenged]

It Is Their Ability, Do You Know What That Means?

[blackice_cc]

Yes I know what it means, but thats not exactly what you said last time.
Also, please don't make it sound like I'm an idiot.

[Avenged]

Wielding the skills of magic means they have the ability. And it is from The Adventure of Link and A Link to the Past. I believe there are references towards it in Ocarina of Time as well.

[blackice_cc]

Thank you. I'll have to play those games sometime soon.

[El Bagu]

Yeah! There should be some more magic in future zeldas. The different spells in AoL is one of the reasons why it´s one of the best games ever (my opinion) !!

[Josh]

I would think that there should be more magic. I mean it brought us the Rods from ALTTP, the Arrows from Wind Waker/many other games. I want those weapons back.

Please?

[Mike Pothier]

I think some magic would be appropriate, but not too much... Link isn't a wizard. Magic isn't his area of expertise. Thats where he needs Zelda.