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linkmaster1
01-08-2008, 07:23 PM
should I download LoZ on the virtual console?

Mases
01-08-2008, 07:33 PM
I think you should. If you are a person that can handle going back in video game time than ya, go for it. The graphics are outdated, it's a 2d title, theres little to no storyline available in the game, it could get quite difficult and it could be somewhat repetitive.

That all being said, it is one of the best NES games every created and any Zelda fan should at least give it a shot. Even if you are a new Zelda fan that just started the serious with Twilight Princess, the Wind Waker, or even as back as Ocarina of Time.

Mases
02-04-2008, 12:34 PM
*Bump*

Has anybody downloaded either the Legend of Zelda or Adventure of Link on the virtual console? I haven't heard much about them really, but was wandering if anybody has tried them out.

MiniMeMilo
02-04-2008, 12:43 PM
I haven't downloaded anything at all from the virtual console, but I plan to once our town gets highspeed and I get the classic controller. I already have LoZ for NES, but the internal battery is dry. Playing the games on the computer with emulators doesn't have the same feel that a console game does, so I definately will.

Peregrine
02-04-2008, 12:48 PM
I already own the cartridges, and the collectors edition. Not to mention the emulators. And they were released as GBA carts too. So I'm not going to spill precious Wii points on a game that I already own 3 times over, unless my disks somehow mysteriously snap in half.

Plasma
02-11-2008, 08:08 AM
Playing the games on the computer with emulators doesn't have the same feel that a console game does,
Not to mention that it's also rather illegal to do so.

Mases
02-11-2008, 10:20 AM
Technically speaking, downloading emulators is 100% perfectly legal, as they are fan creations that do not make games. The actual roms is where it gets tricky. I've heard so many times that it is okay to play a rom if you own a game. I agree with this but the problem with this philosophy is that it is impossible to regulate. I have just about all the Zelda games but I admit to being guilty of using Roms for the sake of pulling screenshots from the games. Is that a crime? I think not because I have the games, but for those that rely strictly on the roms, then yes, I believe it is. Once again though, it is impossible to regulate.

The downloadable games that are available on Nintendo's Virtual Console are roms as well, working on a Nintendo built emulator. Although since those are pay to play, then it is easy to regulate. This in general has been an ongoing discussion over the years on whether or not it is okay to download roms. I do praise the Virtual Console for giving fans of the newer games a chance to relive what built the series.

LegendZ
02-11-2008, 10:57 AM
I'm actually going through LoZ on an emulator right now. And after that one i'll try AoL aswell! I've only ever played OOT WW and PH but i really enjoy playing these older titles aswell. They might look outdated, but they are still fun to play.

Peregrine
02-11-2008, 11:00 AM
While I'm not sure if it's legal to be in possession of a rom, you really stand to get into trouble for distributing them. I have hundreds of roms, that I'm probably not going to get into trouble for. But if I were to post them on a web site somewhere, for people to download, you can bet I'd hear from Nintendo within a short space of time, most likely with a cease and desist order.

Your walkthrough screenshots are probably protected under fair use, which in copyright law isn't really a law, but more of a defensible legal position.

As far as I'm concerned, for a good long time, you couldn't buy classic games. They just weren't being produced, and they were hard to come by second hand. So unless Nintendo wanted to release them, they weren't available any other way. That's how I tried to justify it anyway. Now that they're releasing them again on Virtual Console, you can get them "new" again, so it's a different story. Which is also a crafty way to renew their copyrights.

RyanNope
02-11-2008, 11:17 AM
Today I plan on buying every available VC Zelda game as well as a VC controller.

Peregrine ROMS are generally not legal. If you own the game it is legal for you to have the ROMS. But the thing about ROMS is that if the game is of a previous generation then the laws are not enforced.

currently the enforcement is for DS and above for handhelds, PS2 GCN XBOX and above for consoles and 2001 and above for pc games. Sega DreamCast is not law enforced even though it is of the same generation as PS2 etc.

As Mases said, Emulators are 100% legal. Generally ROMS are not, even if the law is typically not enforced. The way it works if the company is still paying to produce the games (i.e. Cartridges/Disks) it's stealing. If they are out of print (so to say) then it's not.

In the case of VC; Nintendo is no longer paying to produce those games so downloading the roms of such games is okay by my book.


If you have any question or doubts when downloading a ROM, Consult the link below for advice for which console are okay to download and distribute ROMS for.

http://www.underground-gamer.com/wiki/index.php/Safe_consoles_list

(Disclaimer: No Matter what the game or console, if you do not own the game it is illegal to download and it is always illegal to distribute copys without written consent of the copyright holder even if it is not enforced.)

Ralph
02-12-2008, 06:24 AM
I got the GBA version so I never saw a reason to get it but if you don't already own it then go for it

Kybyrian
02-12-2008, 05:38 PM
The Gameboy Advance? The Legend of Zelda isn't on the gameboy advance. We're talking about the original Legend of Zelda here, the first in the series.

Peregrine
02-12-2008, 05:45 PM
I'm pretty sure at least one of the first two was released on GBA. Along with the original Mario Bros, Metroid, and a few other things.

EDIT: According to Wikipedia, it was both. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classic_NES_Series

Kybyrian
02-12-2008, 05:52 PM
If The Legend of Zelda was released on the GBA, then I certainly never have seen it or heard about it.

Peregrine
02-12-2008, 05:59 PM
Well, we both know Wiki can be wrong, so it really depends on how much you want to believe them. But according to the article, it was released in 2004.

Mases
02-12-2008, 06:04 PM
Yup it was released as part of the Classic Series, which released a series of old NES titles. I think Japan had three sets of releases for all the games while here in the US, we only got 1 set of the games, of which two of them consisted of Legend of Zelda and Adventure of Link. Here is a picture of the box art for the gba version.

http://www.zeldadungeon.net/gallery/albums/Zelda01/Packaging/Zelda01-GameboyAdvanceClassicSeries-BoxFront.jpg

Kybyrian
02-12-2008, 08:19 PM
Wow, I certainly never knew that some of the older games were released on the Gameboy Advance. If I can, I'll have to try and find one some time.

Matthew_79
03-23-2008, 01:00 AM
As far as I'm concerned, for a good long time, you couldn't buy classic games. They just weren't being produced, and they were hard to come by second hand. So unless Nintendo wanted to release them, they weren't available any other way. That's how I tried to justify it anyway. Now that they're releasing them again on Virtual Console, you can get them "new" again, so it's a different story. Which is also a crafty way to renew their copyrights.

That was my way of resoning befor the vc came out.
we only got 1 set of the games
We got 2 sets 1 zelda game per set.


On topic, I got both for the VC beacuse zelda is worth it. I dont own any other versions other then Bs Zelda on my computer.

Twilight Demon
03-23-2008, 03:21 PM
If The Legend of Zelda was released on the GBA, then I certainly never have seen it or heard about it.

Well, they both were as Classic games for the GBA heres what LoZ looked like: http://media.gamestats.com/gg/image/NESClassicGBA_Zelda1boxart_160w.jpg Nintendo also relesed games suck as Metroid, Super Mario Bros, Donkey Kong, and Excite Bike to name a few.

zeypherlink
03-23-2008, 03:23 PM
Well, they both were as Classic games for the GBA heres what LoZ looked like: http://media.gamestats.com/gg/image/NESClassicGBA_Zelda1boxart_160w.jpg Nintendo also relesed games suck as Metroid, Super Mario Bros, Donkey Kong, and Excite Bike to name a few.
Yeah, I have that and the AoL classic series release.
I used to have the NES LoZ back in the day when we had an NES and SNES...but then the NES broke and my dad sold all the games...
I think I'll buy an NES and LoZ and AoL just for the hell of it.

mastersword12
03-29-2008, 11:44 AM
*Bump*

Has anybody downloaded either the Legend of Zelda or Adventure of Link on the virtual console? I haven't heard much about them really, but was wandering if anybody has tried them out.

I downloaded both they are exactly like the game (except for controls:xd:)

King of Terror
03-29-2008, 06:31 PM
I downloaded LoZ. Other then the screen error that for some reason hasn't been fixed it's a fine game. I was dumb and looked at faqs for the ways around. I'm going to go through it again with no Faqs this time.

El Bagu
09-03-2008, 05:16 AM
You´ve probably done so already. But if not: please do it :clap:

Bluelink6
09-11-2008, 11:11 AM
I heard somewhere that it is okay to own a rom if you don't own the game, but only legal to have it for 24 hours, and after that, it's illegal to own.

chrisbg99
09-11-2008, 07:41 PM
It is a myth. You can't own illegal ROMs no matter what.

Hylian Hobbit
09-11-2008, 08:16 PM
You can own them, just not legally. Just so you don't get the wrong idea: I don't use ROMs.

Seeing as I have the Collectors Edition, I'm not going to get LoZ on the VC.

Josh
09-11-2008, 09:50 PM
How did this get on the ROM's topic?

Well the only rule that I know of is, you can use them if you own the actual game. Which I do.

As with HH, I own Collector's edition, so I don't really care.

Twili123prince
09-18-2008, 06:41 PM
This reminds me is MM on Wii.

Kybyrian
09-18-2008, 06:42 PM
ROMs are illegal if you don't have the game itself, as stated previously.

If you do own the game, then it is legal to possess the ROM. Like for instance, I have a ROM of Chrono Trigger, which I do, and I also own the original SNES cartridge, so therefore it is legal for me to be in possession, and use the ROM. If I obtain a ROM of Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars and I don't have the game, then it is illegal to be in possession of the ROM.(I do own a ROM of said game but in reality I also own the game itself)