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Mases
12-09-2007, 03:13 AM
Wouldn't it be great to be a Kokiri child? You get to spend your entire live as a child. For the most part, you are protected by the Great Deku Tree. You get to run around and play throughout the forest, never having to worry about the daily problems of real life.
I mean, seriously, what more can anybody ask for. Freedom, liberty, and the persuit of happiness = the kokiri lifestyle. Poor Link, he actually thought he was a Kokiri, had to be stuck being a Hylian.
If the fictional world of the Kokiri were able to happen in real life. Being a Kokiri would be heaven. It would be paradise on earth. No worries, always having your friendly fairy as a companion. Hakuna Matata!!!
What do you think of the Life of the Kokiri Children.
Rheks
12-09-2007, 07:49 AM
To be honest it would be quite boring XD being the same age not growing up plus you woudln't be able to leave kokiri, but I guess it would be in some way fun and great maybe. xD
linkman8
12-09-2007, 08:01 AM
I see what you mean, Mases, it would sound like paradise. Nothing to worry about for the rest of eternity.... However, it would be kind of boring staying a kid forever, while seeing the race of men grow up and all. Especially seeing Link grow up before your eyes. :D
Charmy
12-09-2007, 10:37 AM
That's an interesting thought, though I think it might get a little boring after a while. They don't have much to do.
Paine
12-09-2007, 11:15 AM
I think to truly understand why it would be paradise as Mases says you need to think back to when you were a child as young as maybe even 8. When I was that age, I wanted to be a kid forever and never grow up. Now, I obviously realise that growing up is great, but as a child I would love to be young forever and I can see where Mases is getting at.
It would be great as a Kokiri!
Mases
12-10-2007, 12:00 AM
When I was little, I never wanted to grow up, but I always had the idea that everybody else wanted to grow up. People thinking about being able to drive, not having to go to school anymore, not having to listen to their parents, getting a job, and having their own money. Now that I'm a grown-up (not really), I miss being a little kid.
I think within the Ocarina of Time, the Kokiri are sort of limited, but I also think that the game doesn't accurately show the entire race. Like, I'm sure there are more than the...9 kokiri in the whole world. Either way, they weren't just restricted to the Kokiri Forest, they could venture into the Lost Woods and Sacred Forest Meadow.
As a 21 year old who has failed miserably in the whole 'maturing' process. I still act like the 12 year old heart that I have in me. Thus, the Kokiri lifestyle would be very attractive to me. I don't know about you all, but my life as a 21 year old is much much much more boring than my life as a child. Back then, time was invaluable, and just always flew by. GO out to play at 10am in the morning and before I knew it, it was 8pm and getting dark outside. Now, wheter it be in school, at work, or just anything during the day, we live life so precisely. The innocense of a child, and in this case, a Kokiri is lost in adulthood. I want that back!!!
linkman8
12-10-2007, 07:09 AM
*claps* Well spoken.
I'm sure everyone wishes that they had the innocence and worry-less lifestyle of children. I know I do. But I remember one beef I had with being a child is that you're too little to do almost anything. I remember going to bed early, and not allowed to do anything, because I was too little.
But back to the Kokiris, who's going to restrict them, besides the Deku Tree? What would they be restricted from? Not a whole lot, so I'd say they've got a nice lifestyle.
Peregrine
12-10-2007, 09:29 AM
Except they're sort of restricted to their own little forest glade. If they leave the forest, they start to age. And if they go into the lost woods, they become Skull Kids.
It might be nice to imagine happy little forest people, frolicking around their little village. But at the end of the day, a gilded cage is still a cage.
The Kokiri lifestyle is like the cliche sometimes used to describe the College/University lifestyle; Delaying adulthood as long as you can, because you still want to hang out with your friends, party, and play games. You don't want to leave, because of the impending fear of "growing up", but you can't fight the inevitability. Sooner or later, you have to leave, and face the responsibilities of the real world; get a job, raise a family, fight Gannondorf...
serotonin_wraith
12-11-2007, 04:43 AM
I don't think I'd wanna be young forever, there's benefits to being older too. I wouldn't mind having the master sword and just popping to the temple of time when I fancied being young or older. Go back and forth - maybe not through time though.
In the end credits of OOT, there's a kokiri at the party at Lon Lon Ranch, so perhaps they can leave the forest...?
Avenged
12-11-2007, 03:15 PM
No..if they get 'lost' in the lost woods, they then become skullkids (there is a kokiri or two in the lost woods that didnt turn into a skulkid. If they enter the sacred forest meadow, they age (Saria is proof).
Mases
12-12-2007, 04:47 PM
I didn't ever remember Saria aging. It has been quite some time since I've played the Ocarina of Time, but I just didn't recall that.
I was thinking of the Kokiri Philosophy in a real world environment sort of. Ya sure, if I was restrained to a tiny forest with 9people and couldn't leave, ya that would be terrible. I was thinking of the Kokiri Forest on a higher level really. It's mainly the idea of just being the same your entire life, never having to worry about the adult world. I guess I'm just a bit more conservative than most others when it comes to this kinda stuff. Change is not always a good thing.
Caleb
01-27-2008, 12:52 AM
I wouldn't want to be a Kokiri... I mean... I'd just be a little dude with blond hair covering my eyes, attempting to lift a boulder all day that never budges! Or I could stand there punching my fists in the air at nothing, then run away when the bad guys come... Or I could sit on top of a roof and yell out to people about Z Targeting for a living... Then there's also the fact that I wouldn't ever move from a single spot, except if I was like Mido, then I could spin around at an 80º angle, keeping people from getting to the Deku Tree. But then heck, there's always the option of GREEN hair instead!
No thanks.
Besides, I'm really creeped out by that little girl in the Lost Woods (to the left after entering) who's there for the Biggoron Sword quest... "Stalfos, everybody Stalfos." She creeps me out. I had assosiated Kokiri with Peter Pan worthy happy thoughts until I met her. Then I realized they were all incarnations of Chucky.
Nope. Still don't like it.
Dark link
01-27-2008, 01:09 AM
Though Saria is busy, but i have a question, do the kokori do different things when you come back seven years later?
Onilink89
01-27-2008, 03:29 PM
as far as i know, if you have a fairy and you are in lost woods, you will be able to find your way back(don 't know but someone said that in the game) and if somebody gets lost they become a stalfos, well the blond kokiri girl said that if you gave the odd potion in exchange for poachers saw.
anyway i think it would be cool, but are kokiri even humans? maybe they are made of wood with a human appearance? i don 't want to end op to be a korok like in windwaker. ow yeah thats due hyrule was flooded. lol if link was really a kokiri and would cross the haunted wasteland to reach spirit temple, maybe he would change to a walking cactus or something.
Smitie
01-28-2008, 01:11 PM
i don't want to live like a kokiri, living in the same place for an eternity gets boring and outlive every friend who isn't a kokiri, isn't a nice idea.
Caleb
01-30-2008, 04:08 AM
living in the same place for an eternity gets boring and outlive every friend who isn't a kokiri
The only person who was in the Forest and wasn't a Kokiri was Link anyway, so you wouldn't "outlive" anyone, unless you count the people that get lost and turn into Stalfos.
But on another note, it'd be a pain in the butt to have a fight with one of your friends because you're both too young and immature. But then you might also easily forget and forgive one another?
Mases
01-30-2008, 09:25 AM
Or I could sit on top of a roof and yell out to people about Z Targeting for a living... Then there's also the fact that I wouldn't ever move from a single spot, except if I was like Mido, then I could spin around at an 80º angle, keeping people from getting to the Deku Tree.
This post was absolutely genious, lol. I love it. Of course, I didn't mean the life of a Kokiri to be as straight forward as the 7-8 Kokiri that we see in the game. I really don't remember the Kokiri and Lost Woods connection.
So if you had a fairy, you would be able to travel into the Lost Woods? I think if the Kokiri Forest blueprint was possible in a real life world, that was a bit larger, than it would be my own personal utopia. Hakuna Matata!
No worries, no obligations, no parents to tell you what to do, and a ginormous tree to protect you from the outside world. You can run around and play with your friends all day. It would have to be slightly larger than just like 8 Kokiri Kids that are in the game. If it was a larger community of say 40-50, that would be great. Enough personalites to last a life time. The land space would also need to be a bit bigger, but ya... Does it really get any better than that?
Caleb
01-31-2008, 10:21 PM
So if you had a fairy, you would be able to travel into the Lost Woods?
No, because some of the Kokiri state that they would die if they were to leave the forest, but that others get lost in the Lost Woods. I think it has something to do with them being "fairy children", a part of the forest in a way. That's why they don't get lost and why they can interact with the Deku Tree. (He was protecting Link, so that's why he didn't... become stalfotized?)
Edit:
Wait, I just had a thought. "Fairy children", that means that maybe Tingle always wanted to be a Kokiri? He is dressed like one, (of sorts,) after all.
MiniMeMilo
02-01-2008, 07:21 AM
I don't think being a Kokiri would be that great at all. You would eventually get bored of hanging around the same people in the same forest for years. Not to mention if you even wanted to leave the forest you couldn't, you would die. Going into the Lost Woods would be dangerous, unless you have a map or something so you wouldn't get lost and turn into a Skull Kid.
Peregrine
02-01-2008, 08:43 AM
The Kokiri might be forest sprites, like brownies, dryads, or gnomes. If that's the case, then they might have some mystical connection with their little forest glen, and for some "magical" reason, they might not want to leave. They're somehow, just magically content there, and somehow, magically, never get bored (with a few exceptions), or at least, don't get bored as often. The whole "don't leave the forest or you'll die" thing might just be their explanation for it.
The only other explanation that I can think of is that there's other pockets of Kokiri elsewhere in the world that we just don't hear about in the course of the game. Infrequent forays into the Lost Woods might allow them to meet up occasionally, but otherwise they keep themselves occupied with their own little village.
Kybyrian
02-01-2008, 03:08 PM
as far as i know, if you have a fairy and you are in lost woods, you will be able to find your way back(don 't know but someone said that in the game) and if somebody gets lost they become a stalfos, well the blond kokiri girl said that if you gave the odd potion in exchange for poachers saw.
anyway i think it would be cool, but are kokiri even humans? maybe they are made of wood with a human appearance? i don 't want to end op to be a korok like in windwaker. ow yeah thats due hyrule was flooded. lol if link was really a kokiri and would cross the haunted wasteland to reach spirit temple, maybe he would change to a walking cactus or something.
That's part of the quest for getting Biggoron's Sword.
And hell, for all we know, just like you said, Peregrine, the Kokiri's could be some forest sprite. It never really made sense, that how the Kokiri's could never grow up. And the Lost Woods, part of the Kokiri forest, is interesting too. Because if you lurk in it too long(doesn't effect Link), then you turn into a Skull Kid. The Forest and the Kokiri's themselves are very interesting. That and the Great Deku tree.
I really wouldn't like to live like a Kokiri. Pretty much is that you live forever and never grow up. Live a life in the same place all of the time would get boring. The Kokiri don't have the blessing of the forest when they leave. They would still never grow up, but they could die and without the protection of the Great Deku's tree magic most likely die by an attack out on Hyrule Field from the Skeleton's and Poes. I wouldn't like to live as a Kokiri at all.
Dark link
02-02-2008, 02:46 PM
I wonder if theres a kokiri police force....
zeypherlink
02-02-2008, 09:59 PM
I wouldn't want to be a Kokiri.
They never age, and they can't leave the Forest.
And then in TWW they turn into the Korok. Theres no way I'd want to be a Korok...
Kybyrian
02-02-2008, 10:06 PM
A Korok. I shudder at the sight of it.
zeypherlink
02-02-2008, 10:08 PM
A Korok. I shudder at the sight of it.
The only upside is that you can fly on Deku Leaves...if that can even be considered an upside, lol.
Caleb
02-03-2008, 12:05 PM
I wonder if theres a kokiri police force....
More like "Let's play cops and robbers!"
linkman8
02-03-2008, 01:12 PM
The only upside is that you can fly on Deku Leaves...if that can even be considered an upside, lol.
Well perhaps they could just ask the Great Deku Tree for some leaves and fly with those, like Link did in WW. I agree those Koroks are annoying.
Kybyrian
02-03-2008, 01:32 PM
Koroks are little pieces of wood. I wouldn't want to be a little piece of wood. Sure you can fly with those leaves, well, not really fly but glide. That could get boring though. And I'd be so small ;-;
Onilink89
02-03-2008, 01:53 PM
I wouldn't want to be a Kokiri.
They never age, and they can't leave the Forest.
And then in TWW they turn into the Korok. Theres no way I'd want to be a Korok...
i don 't know that for sure about leaving the forest. at the ending of oot the dance at lon lon ranch. my theory is that kokiri adjust their form in drastic envoirments, well its just a theory i can't prove it.
Kybyrian
02-03-2008, 02:29 PM
Perhaps them leaving the forest leads to the transformation into Koroks?
Onilink89
02-04-2008, 04:47 AM
don 't think so, the deku tree in WW told you that the koroks were once in human form, but after the flood occurd they had to adjust their form to life on.
Mases
02-10-2008, 07:53 PM
According to the logic that the Kokiri Children live forever, and if the Deku Tree is correct that they had to change their form in order to survive. If those are both true and the Wind Waker takes place in the same Hyrule, then, theoretically, are the Koroks actually the exact same Kokirir kids? Like, do you think some of the Koroks are the Know-It-All Brothers or Mido, or any of the other Kokiri children?
One thing I don't get, why change to wood for Koroks. I mean, wood gets damaged by Water. Although maybe it is like how trees turn to wood. Say vines. They start off as just green branched, but over the winter time, have to harden into wood to keep themselves safe over the cold. I guess that logic could make sense.
linkman8
02-17-2008, 10:13 AM
I've been wondering that myself. How is changing into a wood creature adapting to water climate? Perhaps it was just so they could learn to fly.
Shadow Goris
04-29-2008, 08:01 PM
I would love to be a kokiri. I could just play all day with the others and yeah. Beside, what's so bad about koroks? I think they're cute....Any way, I was wondering, Were Do Kokiri Come From? This really baffles me. If they never age, then if they were born, wouldn't they stay as babies for ever? Or maybe they come from seeds of the deku tree (that sounded wrong). Any ideas?
kris94
04-30-2008, 08:13 AM
this kinda creep me out... how does the kokiri gets childrens when they are just 7-8 years old, and if it`s true they never grow up, how did they be 7 years old.
It`s a while since i`ve played OoT so it may happen I forgot the reason, if it was one.
Fierce_Deity
04-30-2008, 09:00 AM
Oh, come one, do honestly think there's a straight answer to that? It's a video game, don't try to apply logic to it.
Mases
04-30-2008, 09:46 AM
(Merged with the Life as a Kokiri Thread)
I think this is one of the big mysteries with the Kokiri Race. There are a few things that I could imagine...
1) They were never born as a human is born. Rather, they just were placed into existence at the age of 7-8.
2) They were kids from another place in Hyrule or the rest of the world. At the age of 7 they were chosen for one reason or another and brought over to the Forest by the Great Deku Tree.
3) They are actually kids that were born IN THE FOREST. However, because of the forest, babies will only be able to grow to the age of 7 and that's it. This would explain Link since he was NOT born in the forest, so he is able to age into a teenager.
linkman8
04-30-2008, 03:50 PM
3) They are actually kids that were born IN THE FOREST. However, because of the forest, babies will only be able to grow to the age of 7 and that's it. This would explain Link since he was NOT born in the forest, so he is able to age into a teenager.
That makes sense. So that would mean that the Kokiri are just humans or hylians that were born in the forest?
proctorFFVII
08-20-2008, 01:12 AM
The lifestyle I want is that of the Kokiria, an expanded universe race created by some guy on newgrounds. Basically they stop aging later, around 16. Now I want that. I'd be able to do so much more than if i were a kid.
blackice_cc
08-20-2008, 07:33 AM
The lifestyle I want is that of the Kokiria, an expanded universe race created by some guy on newgrounds. Basically they stop aging later, around 16. Now I want that. I'd be able to do so much more than if i were a kid.
Well, that would be totally awesome, because you'd be able to go to almost the physical limit of your body, instead of being a little 7 year old all the time.
I'm pretty sure that in OoT it said somewhere that the Kokiri are like forest spirits who have been given the shape of the Kokiri by the Deku tree.
El Bagu
08-20-2008, 08:32 AM
A life as a Kokiri could be nice!
small link
08-20-2008, 09:45 AM
If me and all my friends were kokiri that would be sooooo awesome!
me and my friends don't wanna grow up and part ways. We wouldn't have to if we were all kokiri living in the forest! ^_^ :clap:
...However, it would be kind of boring staying a kid forever, while seeing the race of men grow up and all.
Exceeeeept the Kokiri didn't see anyone outside the forest. In fact, they probably didn't have much knowledge of the world outside the forest.
It's weird isn't it? Most kids just want to grow up, and most adults want their youth back.
I don't think i'd want to be a Kokiri. There wouldn't be a whole lot to do, and I couldn't meet new people or anything. I could learn an instrument, become the best, and never become famous. I could master the art of the sword, but never fight any real battles. But hey, it's trading immortality for excitement. If you just want a peacful, happy, lazy life then there's nothing wrong with being a Kokiri (other than the fact that Kokiri are all little excited children who like to run around and play)
Hylian Hobbit
08-20-2008, 01:27 PM
The lifestyle I want is that of the Kokiria, an expanded universe race created by some guy on newgrounds. Basically they stop aging later, around 16. Now I want that. I'd be able to do so much more than if i were a kid.
Yeah I was thinking the same thing. I found those last week.
People usually want what they can't have. So the idea of eternal youth appeals more to adults because they have already experienced growing up and maturing. But when your a kid, you want the adult experience because you don't know what it's like and so you imagine it to be cool. But adults have gotten the experience that they wanted as a kid, so the adult life is nothing special now.
So while the Kokiri lifestyle might appeal to an adult because it's a carefree, Hakuna Matata lifestyle as Mases said. If you put yourself in the shoes of a Kokiri, they might desire the thrill of growing up and having an adventurous and active lifestyle. Depending on their knowledge of the world outside of the forest. So you might be unhappy either way. My life is so hectic right now, some Hakuna Matata Kokiri time would be nice.
I don't think I would mind it. Now I don't really have too much of a life outside of school during the summer, so I basically do the same thing every day. And I love it. I mean the same thing for the 3 months, and it doesn't really get that boring. Now granted that's forever, and it might get boring eventually, but I would be fine with it. Maybe I'm happy with the fact that you wouldn't die over staying a kid forever, but I would still love it either way.
twili123prince
08-26-2008, 08:10 PM
Ok i see what you mean Mases but you would want too grow up someday?, and have better privileges. But i guess you're also right having a forest all to yourself that would be pretty sweet.
HylianLink
08-26-2008, 08:18 PM
Being a Kokiri could be tough:
- No B-days
- Never being old enough to do things (Jobs and staying up late)
- Always being short
- Never being able to go out of the Forest(If Kokiris go out of the Forest, they die)
____
Not to fun really
Ok i see what you mean Mases but you would want too grow up someday?, and have better privileges. But i guess you're also right having a forest all to yourself that would be pretty sweet.
Meh, it's not all to yourself, you're sharing it with a bunch of other little Kokiri. And some of them aren't exactly friendly, say Mido for instance.
And you don't really get any extra privelages. You're in a forest, you can do whatever the f*** you want.
MajoraKing12
08-27-2008, 05:56 PM
To me it would be tottly awesome! What i would love to do is find some friends and play hide and seek in the lost woods.
And what are you all talking about privileges for? Your in a forest! What could you possibly NOT be allowed to do? Drive?
Um, Drive. Burn down a Forest. Go to Lake Hylia or Castle Town or the Castle. Go outside of the **** forest for that matter. Those are some pretty nice privileges. You could not do almost half of the stuff that you can do outside with a normal life.
Um, Drive. Burn down a Forest. Go to Lake Hylia or Castle Town or the Castle. Go outside of the **** forest for that matter. Those are some pretty nice privileges. You could not do almost half of the stuff that you can do outside with a normal life.
Er, i'm pretty sure that nobody in Hyrule would let you burn down a forest. Especially not the Kokiri.
Not to mention, if you were a Kokiri, you'd probably be afraid of the outer forest.
Remember, the Kokiri knew little to nothing about the outside world other than they might turn into skullchildren if they left.
Er, i'm pretty sure that nobody in Hyrule would let you burn down a forest. Especially not the Kokiri.
Not to mention, if you were a Kokiri, you'd probably be afraid of the outer forest.
Remember, the Kokiri knew little to nothing about the outside world other than they might turn into skullchildren if they left.
Ah. But who said anything about letting someone burn down a forest? :P
They do have imaginations though, I mean, they could simply use what they have around them to imagine what could be out there, plenty of early age humans, now, and in the past have done it before when exploring.
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