Twillight Realm/Fused Shadow & Majora's Mask?

[Joey Kazooie]

The strangest link I've ever seen in the Zelda games is the link between Midna's mask and Majora's Mask. You'll probably know they look awfully familiar.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y280/Drage75/MajoraMidna.jpg

http://zeldawiki.org/images/4/44/Majora_shadow.JPG

Now why would that mask with the ancient power show such a great resemblance with Majora's Mask?

This is a theory from zeldawiki.org

"One thing questioned about Midna's appearance in her primary form is the fragment of the Fused Shadows on her head, which features an eye closely resembling the eyes on Majora's Mask, insinuating that the Fused Shadows and maybe even the Twili had something to do with the monster Majora that was destroyed. This could also mean that Midna's transformed figure (with the aid of the Fused Shadows) could be that of the Majora beast."

And here it is again in the article of Majora's Mask:

"Majora (ムジュラ, Mujura) was an evil being plaguing Termina in ancient times. Though the game doesn't give much specific history on the origins of Majora's Mask, it does state that in ancient times, the mask was worshiped by an ancient tribe who used it in rituals involving the casting of hexes and curses, until they finally sealed it away from the world in the hopes that its evil power would not be unleashed ever again[1]. Hundreds of years later is was sought out and found by the Happy Mask Salesman. Soon afterwards, the Skull Kid scared the Salesman unconscious and stole the mask from the salesman and began to access its power, awakening the consciousness of the mask.

It has also been suggested by some that the "ancient and evil" tribe is perhaps referring to the ancestors of the Twili, a race whose existence was revealed in Twilight Princess, due to similarities between an ancient object created by the Twili dubbed the Fused Shadow and Majora's Mask, as they share similar powers and they have a similar design. Also, Zant's fighting style in the eighth dungeon of Twilight Princess is similar to that of Majora's Mask, in fluidity, style, and spontaneity."

And this is a direct quote from the Happy Mask Salesman in Majora's mask:

“The mask that was stolen from me… It is called Majora’s Mask.
It is an accursed item from legend that is said to have been used by an ancient tribe in its hexing rituals. It is said that an evil and wicked power is bestowed upon the one who wears that mask.”

“According to legend…the troubles caused by Majora’s Mask were so great…the ancient ones, fearing such catastrophe, sealed the mask in shadow forever, preventing its misuse. But now, that tribe from the legend has vanished, so no one really knows the true nature of the mask’s power…
…But I feel it.”

“I went to great lengths to get that legendary mask. When I finally had it… I could sense the doom of a dark omen brewing. It was that unwelcome feeling that makes your hair stand on end.
And now… that imp has it…”







So now I showed you the facts, let me tell you what I think. The ancient tribe which used the mask are indeed the Twili. When Midna used the Fused Shadows in Twillight Princess, she turned into the beast majora. Majora couldn't fully control Midna, because Midna was one of the Twili, creators of the mask, and capable of locking that Majora into shadow again. Since Majora' was plaguing Termina in ancient times this means:



The Twillight Realm in Twillight Princess is the future Termina of Majora's Mask.



Zeldawiki article on the Twillight Realm:

"The Twilight Realm exists as a separate dimension from Hyrule. While the normal Hyrule resides in the World of Light, the Twilight Realm exists in perpetual Twilight, which is the absence of light. Not light in the normal logical sense, but in the spiritual sense. It is a realm in which there is no light, but Twilight. The Twilight Realm is a gloomy, hazy, yet very serene world. It is often called the World of Shadows, but that makes it seem unpleasant. There is a serene beauty to the Twilight Realm, a beauty which the Hylians have seen every time the sun sets, during Twilight hour.

After the Usurper King Zant took over, the Twilight Realm underwent a malevolent change. The skies darker, the mood more ominous, it's people changed into Shadow Beasts."

Termina was just like the twillight realm a seperate dimension from Hyrule. They don't look very much alike, but since the changing over the years and everything turning darker after Zant took over, it could be possible.

What do you think?

[Leix]

Im all for the theory, but the only thing that bothers me is that everything that's NOT the eye dosen't really match up. Midna has square spirals, Majora has spikes. Midna' gray and black with light blue, Majora's Mask/Wrath/Incarnation is Green, Red, Yellow, and dark blue.
Sorry for my inconsistency with capitalization that I don't care to fix.

[Joey Kazooie]

Im all for the theory, but the only thing that bothers me is that everything that's NOT the eye dosen't really match up. Midna has square spirals, Majora has spikes. Midna' gray and black with light blue, Majora's Mask/Wrath/Incarnation is Green, Red, Yellow, and dark blue.
Sorry for my inconsistency with capitalization that I don't care to fix.

I'm not saying Midna looks alot like Majora's mask or Wrath, but that Midna's Mask (a.k.a. the fused shadows) look alot like Majora's Mask (the mask, not the evil spirit)

[Leix]

I'm not saying Midna looks alot like Majora's mask or Wrath, but that Midna's Mask (a.k.a. the fused shadows) look alot like Majora's Mask (the mask, not the evil spirit)
And i'm not saying that Midna looks like Majoras mask, i'm saying that the fused shadows' only connection is the eye. The colors(not much to argue, the fused shadows seem to be stonelike), and the rest of the design don't match up too well. The fused shadows look more..eh...Greek with the straight, squarelike designs on it. Majora's mask is far smoother, with all of it's lines curved(with the exception of the spikes).

[Joey Kazooie]

And i'm not saying that Midna looks like Majoras mask, i'm saying that the fused shadows' only connection is the eye. The colors(not much to argue, the fused shadows seem to be stonelike), and the rest of the design don't match up too well. The fused shadows look more..eh...Greek with the straight, squarelike designs on it. Majora's mask is far smoother, with all of it's lines curved(with the exception of the spikes).

Nintendo just changed it's look a little, just like the rest of Hyrule. For example. The skull kid in TP's lost woods doesn't look anuthing like the skull kids in OOT.

[Leix]

Nintendo just changed it's look a little, just like the rest of Hyrule. For example. The skull kid in TP's lost woods doesn't look anuthing like the skull kids in OOT.

True, but that's an evolutionized person compared to something that's been sealed off for ages. They wouldn't change it THAT dramatically, would they? More in depth, the twili are represented as DARKNESS and SHADOWS, whereas Majora's mask is EVIL, yet far more colorful than anything in the twili world.

On a side note, i'm glad they changed the skull kid, his beak kinda bothered me.

[Chrono]

Its called rehasing ideas and concepts.

[Onilink89]

i don 't know, it is a cool theory but there are 2 many loose ends for me.

mask salesman said that the mask belonged to a ancient tribe for hexing rituals, and "after the tribe was no more, he was looking for that mask". <--- you really forget this part here
so he is claming that that ancient tribe is no more. now i don 't know what kind of tribe it was, but i don 't think he is talking about the twili.
so it doesn 't mean that the mask salesman had found that mask in termina.

i also don 't think the twilight realm is the future termina.
twlight realm was meant to banish criminals (or something like that) "thats why the gerudo is twili theory" while termina was created by the giants. and if you think about the location.
termina ás portal was somewhere in lost woods and not in the desert.

anyway, about the design, you really must not judge with looks in zelda games.
i mean bellum, vaati, majora 's mask, they also resemble a lot, but doesn 't mean that they are related.

[blackice_cc]

Well, maybe the ancient tribe weren't Twili to start out with, but were banished because they created and use Majora's mask. Then when they were banished, maybe they changed according to their environment. Also, either the masks powers changed it, the environment changed it, or Onilink is right and looks can vary greatly between games. I wholeheartedly support the theory, just because a bunch of things make sense, and it's very interesting.

[Joey Kazooie]

i don 't know, it is a cool theory but there are 2 many loose ends for me.

mask salesman said that the mask belonged to a ancient tribe for hexing rituals, and "after the tribe was no more, he was looking for that mask". <--- you really forget this part here
so he is claming that that ancient tribe is no more. now i don 't know what kind of tribe it was, but i don 't think he is talking about the twili.
so it doesn 't mean that the mask salesman had found that mask in termina.

i also don 't think the twilight realm is the future termina.
twlight realm was meant to banish criminals (or something like that) "thats why the gerudo is twili theory" while termina was created by the giants. and if you think about the location.
termina ás portal was somewhere in lost woods and not in the desert.

anyway, about the design, you really must not judge with looks in zelda games.
i mean bellum, vaati, majora 's mask, they also resemble a lot, but doesn 't mean that they are related.



Since when do Vaati, Bellum and Majora's Mask look alike?


I think Bellum looks like that nightmare from Link's Awakening, but that's about it.

[small link]

True, but that's an evolutionized person compared to something that's been sealed off for ages. They wouldn't change it THAT dramatically, would they? More in depth, the twili are represented as DARKNESS and SHADOWS, whereas Majora's mask is EVIL, yet far more colorful than anything in the twili world.

On a side note, i'm glad they changed the skull kid, his beak kinda bothered me.

Actually i think they would change the looks of it. I mean, they don't want the connection to be completly obvious. If it looked too much alike, then People would think it's the samething, from the same time... if you know what i mean...

[Leix]

But if it IS, then why conceal it? Why make it obscure to the average person? Why make it argumentable if it's the truth?
Why am I even arguing against the theory if i support it?

[blackice_cc]

But if it IS, then why conceal it? Why make it obscure to the average person? Why make it argumentable if it's the truth?
Why am I even arguing against the theory if i support it?

Well, maybe the Twili's powers are what changed the mask. Maybe it changed to suit the Twili's appearance when the first one wore it. About your last question, well I have no clue :).

[Joey Kazooie]

Actually i think they would change the looks of it. I mean, they don't want the connection to be completly obvious. If it looked too much alike, then People would think it's the samething, from the same time... if you know what i mean...


You know what's funny. The face of Skull Kid in TP looks very much like the moon in MM. So even there is a connection.

http://www.zeldawiki.org/images/b/be/SkullKid.png
http://www.zeldawiki.org/images/4/42/MoonMM.jpg

[Twili123prince]

wow thats just odd maybe Majora is a fused shadow? because fused shadows are hexing objects just like Majora mask wow Ive never noticed that before.

[Twili123prince]

You know what's funny. The face of Skull Kid in TP looks very much like the moon in MM. So even there is a connection.

http://www.zeldawiki.org/images/b/be/SkullKid.png
http://www.zeldawiki.org/images/4/42/MoonMM.jpg

HOLY wow even the moon and skull kid have connections thats crazy

[Leix]

By the goddesses, i've never thought about that before.
However, the Skull Kid looks psychotically happy, and the moon just looks angry/in pain(although at that angle it looks like it's trying to smile for a picture and miserably failing)

[Joey Kazooie]

Well, I don't think the moon should smile, when some mask let's him crashing down on some planet.

[Mastersworddude]

The thing that midna wears looks more like a hat than a mask, I think it is just a easter egg.

[Onilink89]

yeah thats just a refrence from MM if you ask me.

anyway, there is one major point dissaproing this theory for me.
we know that MM occurs before TP.
the happy mask salesman said that after the ancient tribe was gone (so that tribe doesn 't excist anymore) he was looking for majora 's mask.

[MajoraKing12]

I don't remeber ever seeing that before.But it looks awesome.Is that really in any of the games?

[Majora master]

Maybe midna's mask does have a great resemblence. Because they are both Zelda games. And majora's mask is the game right after oot. In oot you play as a kid and an adult. Therefore it means there is a resemblence because in tp you play as an adult get it?!...
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[Chris]

Now I understand the theroy but to help others you should make it consise (meaning short if you didn't already know).

[waldo12]

u make very interesting points to this im not quite sure

[Zemen125]

according to the theory the creator of this thread has, that would mean that twilight princess would come before majoras mask on a timeline.

the reason for what i just said is because in order for the twili to make majoras mask then the twili would have to exist during Majoras Mask, but the creator said that he thinks termina becomes the twilight realm and its people become the twili people. thats impossible if the mask was already made by the twili. there would already be twili therefor termina is not the twilight realm and its people do not become twili. that right there is a HUGE hole in this theory.

it was a good idea but it makes no sense timeline wise because even if you dont believe in a timeline everyone knows MM comes right after OoT

[Clucluclu]

http://zeldadungeon.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=247&pictureid=1323

I highly doubt that this is a coincidence. They fit too well. Do you think Nintendo was trying to tell us something? They do both serve very similar purposes. They are both incredibly powerful dark relics. I think that perhaps there is a relationship between the Twili and the tribe described by the HMS in the beginning of MM. What do you think?

[Skull_Kid]

I don't think that, for now, we can make a connection based on it's desgin.
It's true that they bear similarities, but while the Majora's Mask housed a very powerful entity, and it's used turned you into a puppet, the Fused Shadow only gave you tons and tons of power, even though, that power is not comparable to one third of the triforce, since Ganon destroyed it with his bare hands.

I think that, until a game proves that there is a connection, any coincidence must be ignored.

Also, don't forget that, as far as we know, Majora's mask is orginary from Termina, while the Fused Shadow is either from Hyrule or the Twilight Realm.

And, on a sidenote, I am pretty sure that we'll hear of the Fused Shadow in the Future, don't forget that in the ending of TP, it's remains layed half-buried on the Hyrule Field, and there was an oddly suspiciously close-up to it.

[Clucluclu]

I think you misunderstood me.
I don't think that there is a direct relation between the tribe that created Majora's Mask and and the tribe that was banished into the Twilight realm, but I think that they are paralels of eachother, just like how most characters in OoT had paralels in Termina. In other words, I think that they are the same, just in different dimensions, just like how there are Zora and Goron in both dimensions.

[Skull_Kid]

That is highly unprobable right now.
And the Hyrule/Termina counterparts were basicly similars in more than one or two points.

For example Ruto and Lulo were basicly the same, while Darmani and The Goron leader in OoT were also the same, basicly, in design, I mean.
But Majora's Mask X Fused Shadow similarities end up on the eye.
Don't forget that it is called MAJORA'S MASK, as in BELONGING to Majora.
I believe that Majora was an actual being, and that is very supported by the fact that the two last boss stages are Majora's Incarnation and Majora's Wrath.
And it is shown through the game that Majora's Mask had a personality and a spirit within, while the Fused Shadow is just a mask, a mere tool with immense powers

[Zemen125]

Majora's Mask had a personality and a spirit within, while the Fused Shadow is just a mask, a mere tool with immense powers

I completely agree that Majora's Mask has no connection to the Fused Shadow, but you know how much I love to play the Devil's Advocate so in defense of the theory at hand, at the end of MM the HMS said that the Mask's power was gone (meaning it was just an ordinary mask). It's possible that with it's power gone, it started to alter in appearance (aka turn into stone). Due to the design of the mask, someone who found it (maybe one of the first Twili people) could have bestowed powers unto it making in the Fused Shadow.

It's a long shot and I certainly don't believe it, but it's a theory and I love coming up with theories.

[Skull_Kid]

I completely agree that Majora's Mask has no connection to the Fused Shadow, but you know how much I love to play the Devil's Advocate so in defense of the theory at hand, at the end of MM the HMS said that the Mask's power was gone (meaning it was just an ordinary mask). It's possible that with it's power gone, it started to alter in appearance (aka turn into stone). Due to the design of the mask, someone who found it (maybe one of the first Twili people) could have bestowed powers unto it making in the Fused Shadow.

It's a long shot and I certainly don't believe it, but it's a theory and I love coming up with theories.

Majora's Mask also had a more heart-shaped form, don't forget it.
Oh, and on top of that, after you see that scene in wich Lanayru tells you about the Dark interlopers, you get the idea(at least I did) that those events happened really, really long ago...
Maybe even before OoT...

[Gohma]

I'm surprised to see that someone has the same theory about Termina and the Twilight realm as me...
Well...
I read the article about the "dark tribe" in Zelda wiki, wich may be related to that theory:
http://www.zeldawiki.org/Dark_Tribe

It is about a "dark tribe" wich may be the Twili, because it is said to have been banished ine another dimension via a mirror, after invading Hyrule (FSA). Just read the article to know more about the connection between them, this is convicing.

In MM, the Happy Mask Salesman describes the people which created the mask, here is the quote:
The mask that was stolen from me... It is called Majora's Mask. It is an accursed item from legend that is said to have been used by an ancient tribe in its hexing rituals... The ancient ones...sealed the mask in shadow forever, preventing its misuse. But now, that tribe from the legend has vanished...


If we follow those theories, the "dark tribe" described in FSA became the Twili and they also are the "ancient tribe" wich created the Majora's mask.
Of course the "ancient tribe" may be a different one... But now we have these similarities between the Fused Shadows and the Majora's mask. First, they are EVIL MASKS, which is kinda uncommon. And then they have the same eye design...
There is a lot of other questions... Why did the tribe (possibly the Twili) created the mask for? Are they the "ancients" who sealed it? (the ancients may be the light spirits from TP after all) Did the tribe vanished because they were sealed by a mirror?

So, we now have elements which suppose that the Twili created Majora's mask... Now, why should Termina be the Twilight Realm? It is not said that the ancient tribe that created the mask was from Termina. But I remember what Midna says about it: There is a Twili legend which says that an animal will come to save them, or something like that. In both MM and TP, Link can change himself into different creatures, and then manage to save the alternate dimension...




Well, I personnaly think that Majora's Mask and the Fused Shadow are connected, and I also think that Termina and the Twilight Realm are the same place. I think studying Midna's quote about the Realm may be entertaining, she describe it very often.

[Zemen125]

First, they are EVIL MASKS, which is kinda uncommon.

I don't recall anyone ever stating that the Fused Shadow is an evil mask... In fact, it's used by Midna (who is an ally and helps Link save Hyrule), so I fail to see what makes you think that the Fused Shadow is evil..

[Gohma]

Maybe the fact that Midna accidentally kills Zant when she wears it? :p
Even its shard had the power to change Darbus into a gigantic monster...

Well, I have no doubts about the nature of this thing ^_^"
And I think that Lanaryu clearly says that the Fused Shadow hold an evil power during the weird "shadow Link" cutscene.

[Zemen125]

Maybe the fact that Midna accidentally kills Zant when she wears it?

So the good person (Midna) used the mask to kill the bad person (Zant) and you think that makes the mask evil?

[Gohma]

Yeah. =)
She didn't want to kill him after all.
And I still think that Lanaryu explains that the power in the Fused Shadow is kinda evil in that freaky cutscene...
Anyway, if you prefer, they are MAGIC masks, which is a common point after all.


I played Majora's Mask today, and, in French, during the cutscene where the Happy Mask Salesman tells the story of Majora, he says something like "old tribe" instead of "ancient tribe". So, this means, like I supposed, that the tribe and the ancients who sealed the mask are different people.
I know this is a detail but... ^_^'
By the way, while playing, I will pay attention if I notice something that could have a link with TP...

[Zemen125]

if you prefer, they are MAGIC masks, which is a common point after all.

ALL of the masks in MM are magic masks, so I still fail to see how that solidly connects Majora's Mask with the Fused Shadow.

[Skull_Kid]

Termina being the Twilight Realm?
Hm... We all should know by now that there is NO chance that the Sacred Realm is the Twilight Realm(It would be stupid of the Goddesses to imprison the people who wanted the Triforce in the same place that it was kept), and I don't think that it is Termina.
We don't see a single piece of evidence that even makes you consider it.
The only thing that connects the Fused Shadow and the Majora's Mask is the eye design, and the fact that both were created by ancient tribes.

And the Old Tribe/Ancient Tribe translation is kinda the same, so i don't see the problem, Gohma.

[Gohma]

Yeah, that means the same thing, but with "the ancient tribe" and "the ancients who sealed it", we could think that they are the same...
Well, that's not important after all.

About Termina/Twilight Realm, that's true that we don't have a lot of elements, but IF Majora's Mask and the Fused Shadow were created by the Twili, it is possible that the spirits sealed them in the same place.
It is impossible to know if the two worlds are the same, but this could be true...
The major problem is that Link and Epona enters Termina without using any mirror, probably because of Skull Kid... Now if Majora can travel between the two dimensions, it is not logical at all...

Remember that this is just a theory, and I miss elements...
If anyone has some clues about that? ^_^'

[ChargewithSword]

Here's something for thought.

According to legend... the troubles caused by Majora's Mask were so great... the ancient ones, fearing such catastrophe, sealed the mask in shadow forever, preventing its misuse - Happy Mask Salesman

That story resembles another story doesn't it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UWfFRWRrUo

Lanaryu and the other spirits are quite ancient when you think of it. Another thing is that while Majora may have support in Termina, where did Skull Kid find the mask on the Happy Mask Salesman? The Lost Woods in "HYRULE". This gives information that this mask is but another one of the weapons of magic created by the Twili.

[Zemen125]

Yeah, that means the same thing, but with "the ancient tribe" and "the ancients who sealed it", we could think that they are the same...
Well, that's not important after all.

About Termina/Twilight Realm, that's true that we don't have a lot of elements, but IF Majora's Mask and the Fused Shadow were created by the Twili, it is possible that the spirits sealed them in the same place.
It is impossible to know if the two worlds are the same, but this could be true...
The major problem is that Link and Epona enters Termina without using any mirror, probably because of Skull Kid... Now if Majora can travel between the two dimensions, it is not logical at all...

Remember that this is just a theory, and I miss elements...
If anyone has some clues about that? ^_^'

Keep in mind that the Happy Mask Salesman apparently knows how to freely travel between Termina and Hyrule without any magic (to our knowledge). There doesn't necessarily need to be some special way to travel to Termina (mirror, skull kid/mask powers) because a (mostly) normal Hylian knows how to get there on his own.

[Gohma]

I don't know if we can consider the Happy Mask Salesmasn "normal".. xD
Seriously, he is really suspicious...
He is the one who had Majora's Mask, which was said to be "sealed", he is unnafected by the Song of Time... Even Tatl said something weird about him at the beggining...

But yeah, Link, Epona and him got in Termina without apparently using any kind of magic...
...
Referring to Midna, the only way to enter the Twilight Realm is the Mirror, and I don't remember any in MM, except maybe in Ikana temple.

[Skull_Kid]

Also, the Happy Mask salesman seems to be wearing a mask of his face in some cutscenes, the guy's a freakshow,and I love him:)

But, back on topic: Apart from the fact that both are powerful masks(even though MM has a personality and is an actual being), and having similar eye designs, the similarities end there.
I don't think that the two are connected.

Also, bellum's eyes closely resemble majora's and I've never seen anyone connecting them xD

[ChargewithSword]

Also, the Happy Mask salesman seems to be wearing a mask of his face in some cutscenes, the guy's a freakshow,and I love him:)

But, back on topic: Apart from the fact that both are powerful masks(even though MM has a personality and is an actual being), and having similar eye designs, the similarities end there.
I don't think that the two are connected.

Also, bellum's eyes closely resemble majora's and I've never seen anyone connecting them xD

Actually, the thing that separates bellums eye from Majora's is the angle of it. Bellum isn't in the correct position that makes the fused shadow eye and Majora's masks eye so similar.

Also, Majora seemed to have most of it's power from the fact that it's owner was weak minded. Midna however had power and control. As you saw during the cutscene where Midna stabbed Zant, it looked like she lost control of her power right there, that kinda shows that the weapons might have minds of their own. They just need to be controlled.

[Skull_Kid]

Actually, the thing that separates bellums eye from Majora's is the angle of it. Bellum isn't in the correct position that makes the fused shadow eye and Majora's masks eye so similar.

Also, Majora seemed to have most of it's power from the fact that it's owner was weak minded. Midna however had power and control. As you saw during the cutscene where Midna stabbed Zant, it looked like she lost control of her power right there, that kinda shows that the weapons might have minds of their own. They just need to be controlled.

That is a fact, but, the Majora's Mask clearly haves a personality, even when It's not being weared by the Skull Kid, while the Fused Shadow is clearly just a mask.
And nothing shows that the Fused Shadow also has a mind of it's own.

[Evenstevenp]

This is actually rather interesting, i've never thought of this before. It sounds pretty reasonable to me. But why would the fused shadows have the image of Majora's Mask on them?

[Zemen125]

This is actually rather interesting, i've never thought of this before. It sounds pretty reasonable to me. But why would the fused shadows have the image of Majora's Mask on them?

Did you read any of the posts? Those that believe in a connection think that the Fused Shadow and Majora's Mask are the same thing.

[Gohma]

Or at least they may have been created by the same people, which would explain their design similarities.

[Zemen125]

Or at least they may have been created by the same people, which would explain their design similarities.

If you want to get technical, they were made by the same people (the creators of the series) which seems to me could also explain the design similarities. The only thing similar on the two items is the eye and that particular eye design has been used MANY times in the series. Regardless of it being squintier or at a slightly different angle than other eyes, it's just an eye.

[Skull_Kid]

Please, in this thread and others of the same type(i.e. threads that require a certain vast knowledge of the Zelda world and it's theories) please, don't post if you don't read the posts above you, or if you don't know what's the subject.
This helps the theorists/people involved in the discussion from getting off-topic.

Anyways, I still think that the Twili/Majora connection is purely coincidental.
Nintendo tends to do that A LOT, and don't make me post examples xD.